black eagle
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If this is gonna be the new chinese baby.. I must say it looks impressive & deadly... Looks even better than the PAK-FA...
Yes,powerplant is still a secret.But I cann't tell whether the latest pic is PSed or not.listen guys !!just don't make a ho halla about chinese J20 whatever, this more lika photoshoped than real. Before chinese test anything ,they need a basic powerplant ,and avonics to make it powerplant. Chinese aerospace nt much depend on RnD But copying and pasting . Russia with so much vast experience with 4 and 4.5 generation aircraft they finally arvived to 5th gen in 2001 ,remember before that they tested their avonics,powerplant,landing gear,stealth features and finaly internal weapon bay on various aircrafts like Su 35BM ,Su 47berkat ,Mig 1.44TD,Su 30mki for TVC.. Just look at the list ,do you think chinese tested anything anywhere,! Do they have platform other than j10B or J 7 to test ?? Do they have experience to develop 2engine aircrafts like europe,russia and USA ??
Some rumors said WS-15 (engine) is under developing, it will be finished around 2015, after that J20 will have the ability of super sonic cruise. In fact eyewitnesses said the sound of engine of J-20 is different from J10's enginge sound (using AL31 or WS10), J-20's sound is much lower tones.listen guys !!just don't make a ho halla about chinese J20 whatever, this more lika photoshoped than real. Before chinese test anything ,they need a basic powerplant ,and avonics to make it powerplant. Chinese aerospace nt much depend on RnD But copying and pasting . Russia with so much vast experience with 4 and 4.5 generation aircraft they finally arvived to 5th gen in 2001 ,remember before that they tested their avonics,powerplant,landing gear,stealth features and finaly internal weapon bay on various aircrafts like Su 35BM ,Su 47berkat ,Mig 1.44TD,Su 30mki for TVC.. Just look at the list ,do you think chinese tested anything anywhere,! Do they have platform other than j10B or J 7 to test ?? Do they have experience to develop 2engine aircrafts like europe,russia and USA ??
Give me a break mate! You mean your airports are withot walls ,where you do all research and development of J20 ? If no then how the heck labourers and workers watching a top secret plane doing taxing ?? WS15 Not ready,even if its ready you mean its directly used to such a precious,secret projects like j20 without using on exsiting platform like j10B or su27 as j11 still takes her sweet time to induct. Where the heck you testing this then hope nt a martian craft lol..? Mate an engine need atleast 3years to mature or 2000hrs. If j20 is using unmatured WS 15 ,then bingo its nt a 5thgen aircraft .Some rumors said WS-15 (engine) is under developing, it will be finished around 2015, after that J20 will have the ability of super sonic cruise. In fact eyewitnesses said the sound of engine of J-20 is different from J10's enginge sound (using AL31 or WS10), J-20's sound is much lower tones.
Hundreds of common people went to the site and saw J-20 these days, it slides on runway 3 or 5 times every day. The photo is real, no photoshoped at all, but taking photo is still forbidden, so very few photos at present.
J11b (based on Su27) almost is a new fighter, new materials, new avionics, new radar.
The research of J-20 started from 20 years ago.
Now,I think it was not a PSed photo.But what engine it used?Give me a break mate! You mean your airports are withot walls ,where you do all research and development of J20 ? If no then how the heck labourers and workers watching a top secret plane doing taxing ?? WS15 Not ready,even if its ready you mean its directly used to such a precious,secret projects like j20 without using on exsiting platform like j10B or su27 as j11 still takes her sweet time to induct. Where the heck you testing this then hope nt a martian craft lol..? Mate an engine need atleast 3years to mature or 2000hrs. If j20 is using unmatured WS 15 ,then bingo its nt a 5thgen aircraft .
That is not a very secret military airport, everyone can stay around it, but soldiers will stop people taking photos, this means J-20 is almost declassified.Give me a break mate! You mean your airports are withot walls ,where you do all research and development of J20 ? If no then how the heck labourers and workers watching a top secret plane doing taxing ?? WS15 Not ready,even if its ready you mean its directly used to such a precious,secret projects like j20 without using on exsiting platform like j10B or su27 as j11 still takes her sweet time to induct. Where the heck you testing this then hope nt a martian craft lol..? Mate an engine need atleast 3years to mature or 2000hrs. If j20 is using unmatured WS 15 ,then bingo its nt a 5thgen aircraft .
You are right. Both sides had better calm down. Though I trend to believe these pictures are real, the J-xx is still taxing, which may take 5 to 10 years to serve PLAAF. India may have time to catch up while the failure of WS 15 may delay the service of J-xx in China.If j20 is using unmatured WS 15 ,then bingo its nt a 5thgen aircraft .
ws-10 has enough thrust for a fifth generation fighter?? It is suppose to be inferior compared to an AL-31 on an Su-27???Rumor: J20 is using enhanced version of WS10
Looks like another fake. PLAAF's insignia is not the same on Vertical stabilizers, it is more like that of PLA. Another photochop picture.It doese not look like j-10 to me for sure, what do you think Armand?
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