Yes, we are living in the delusion. In the real world, India is a super power!
Only in your dreams. In real world, India & China are third-world nations. Especially technology-wise, these countries do not hold a candle to the West. However, things have been changing positively in both countries, since last 2-3 decades. While Chinese industry took the easy route of reverse-engineering, industrial espionage, copy-paste designing of inferior shoddily manufactured goods, fudging economic figures/reports & a a highly opaque system, India took the ethical path of assiduously developing its industries in the areas it strength lies, in face of perpetual Western sanctions.
While the PRC
took more than it could chew (trying to do everything at the same time & failing in most efforts), India did fewer things at a time, at a steady, determined pace & climbed up the value chain. Once it secured its foothold in the IT, pharma, space, technology & services industry, it diversified in other domains as well.
Both countries are stumbling on the path to become a technology leader like US/Japan/Germany/S.korea & EU nations but a lot of journey is till remaining.
Yes, good words-"upcoming/proposed/planned", which means all thse projects haven't finished yet or not even close to the end. How about now?
On ground, not much progress by Arcelor Mittal & Posco. Reason: environmental concerns, displacement of populations, etc. These concerns for people & environment is zilch in African & Commie dictatorships. So, that's why, PRC citizens are forced to live & breathe smog. & the displaced ones do not find a voice, being a victim of autocratic state.
Yes, let's check the reality: growth from 2007 to 2011
India: 9.8(2007), 3.9(2008), 8.5(2009), 10.5(2010), 6.3(2011)
China:14.2(2007), 9.6(2008), 9.2(2009), 10.4(2010), 9.3(2011)
GDP growth (annual %) | Data | Table
And then in 2012, when China is slowing down to around 7%, india economy is down to 5.3%.
Now tell me how did india's domestic consumption make india better than China?
You have the data. Good. Now, use these figures, use basic maths & tell me if China has managed better than India ?
You have the access to the latest & greatest in the world doesn't neccessarily make your country the greatest! The fact is that the quality level of your own brand car doesn't prove that you own these latest and greatest technology. So you are a better customer than China not a better place for manufacturing, right?
No, India is not best manufacturing destination in the nation. On the other hand, China once used to be the best, in this respect till a few years back. However, owing of diminishing advantage of cost-arbitrage, an ageing population, non-existent IP regime, poor quality control & industrial theft, PRC quickly lost this position.
Now, all major manufacturers are flocking to better destinations like India, Vietnam, Taiwan, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, some East European nations & the US, of course. However, since all other nations have limited potential & are on verge of saturation (lie China), the Indian manufacturing story is only going to get bigger & biggest. It is not a matter of IF, but a matter of WHEN & the answer is before 2025. It is not an option for us but the only path to provide gainful employment to our dynamic youth,
No, you can't simply because americans don't allow you to do that.
You could wish so. Yes, it is not that simple, but you know very well that IN can make things extremely difficult for China & severely restrict its war-waging potential. Ever heard of insurance-costs ?
Top 100 companies source lots of things from China, so what?
This makes a China a good manufacturing destination in terms of volume. However, in terms of quality, the story is entirely different altogether.
Yes, free to enjoy starvation, free to rape and free to steal public money
Crime in the People's Republic of China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
US-China Today: Rape in China
Stricter laws on rape in China but prejudices against women exist : Hutong Cat
No matter how hard it is for you guys to digest & accept the truth, the fact remains that the situation in China (regarding rape, crime, corruption & human suffering) is the worst among all nations (akin Sub-Saharan nations). Your CCP can try as hard as it wants to hide truth from coming out, but world knows the truth. India, being the world's biggest
transparent democracy, every single incident is reported without fear or prejudice. We are an open book.
Yes, I can also claim I am selling my Mars technology to NASA. It is internet you can say anything. But the report I provide indicates a not good picture for india's techonolgy.
I can understand your fundamental limitation regarding the subject of IP (as, any IP regime is non-existent in China). However, this is how things work in the comity of free, civilized nations. Any PRC citizen would inevitably have a lot of trouble in understanding such a simple concept.
Yes, I don't see any Chinese company. But where is Indian company? You want to prove me that India is better than China or india's greatness, why give a list of US, Japanese companies? I am not the one claim the greatness of his own country. You are, so please prove to me!
Busted. Your claim of Chinese manufacturing being the best is busted, out & out. PRC simply stands for low-cost-high volume & low-quality (& mostly, counterfeit) manufacturing. Now, even the low cost advantage has diminished altogether.
Didn't you talk about how india is better than China?
Yes, India is better because India has fresh, started out & due to some of its inherent, unparalleled advantages. Please understand that, both countries have relative strengths & weaknesses. Indian strength lies in entrepreneurship, unbeatable demographic advantage, IT skills (from grassroot to the top), ethical & original business models, innovation & better economic fundamentals, Chinese strength lies in discipline, efficiency, infrastructure-building, more conducive business environment (even though as corrupt as India) & largely indigenized military-industrial complex (if we ignore the quality aspect).
If you can actually comprehend English, please understand that no one (absolutely, no one) on this thread has ever claimed that India is a technology or manufacturing superpower, or that, Chinese are nowhere in these fields. Everyone knows that is not the case. PRC has enjoyed the distinction of being one of the best manufacturing destinations of the world for some time, until a few years back.
However, things changed recently (I have often elaborated above, what & how changed) & PRC has been loosing its attractiveness. The upcoming manufacturing destinations are multitude of nations- India, some East Asian nations, some East-European nations & a re-energized invigorated US. Potential-wise, none of these nations can compete with India, save US.
Coming to technology-leadership, please realize that India & China are third-world nations & cannot compete with the West or Japan, as things stand now. Mass-producing low-cost stuff would not make any difference. It would take us a few decades to bridge the gap & negate the early mover & cultural advantages that the West has (industrial revolution & a truly open society, which fosters creativity, entrepreneur zeal & original innovation).