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Based on what the bench actually observed seemed more like an eyewash to me. The same GoI officials, who already gave green signal to the project, are members of the panel formed by the bench. No doubt the Wire is crying hehe.

Perhaps this is why companies are still interested despite a stay;


 

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This is beyond messed up, just reminder how messed up and comprised are our institutions .How does these things are possible and we compare ourself with PRC.
this can also be described as , ripple effects of U.S's three decades of unipolar moment. just because muricans and europeans wanted to transfer their pollution caused by manufacturing to china, they actively promoted climate justice domestically and as foreign policy. we as a developing nation continue to face the impact of that global policy.

a friend of mine who lives in switzerland told me about a conversation he heard in a coffee shop, two local fellows were discussing climate change between themselves at the next table. after all the conversation on this topic the conclusion they arrived between themselves was "why should we spoil our environment in our country, might as well chinese do it". basically they are saying, let some other country pollute themselves, we will just pay for it and avoid pollution in our own country. my friend said, he wanted to point out the hypocrisy, but obviously didn't.
 

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this can also be described as , ripple effects of U.S's three decades of unipolar moment. just because muricans and europeans wanted to transfer their pollution caused by manufacturing to china, they actively promoted climate justice domestically and as foreign policy. we as a developing nation continue to face the impact of that global policy.

a friend of mine who lives in switzerland told me about a conversation he heard in a coffee shop, two local fellows were discussing climate change between themselves at the next table. after all the conversation on this topic the conclusion they arrived between themselves was "why should we spoil our environment in our country, might as well chinese do it". basically they are saying, let some other country pollute themselves, we will just pay for it and avoid pollution in our own country. my friend said, he wanted to point out the hypocrisy, but obviously didn't.
That is true for western nation whose economy is in advanced for eg whatever those cable strands which are utilised in cable stayed bridge comes from Switzerland also there is far too many specialised products and service which are used in infrastructure development or propert developments like foundation,cable anchoring materials , comes from Europe .

but what I found astounding is for project clearance was already given than why this ungli. And this is the common thing I found in all our institution and organisation. These guys can not hold their own clearance which they themself given.
You will not find such hypocrisy and outright project damaging shenanigans in other far east and SEA countries let alone PRC.
 
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That is true for western nation but what I found astounding is for project clearance was already given than why this ungli. And this is the common thing I found in all our institution and organisation. These guys can not hold their own clearance which they themself given.
obvious answer is, it's just the way some of the procedures are structured.

during UPA, concepts like lokayukta and NGT were introduced to make sure activists have a say in second guessing and challenge govt decisions and procedures. which became a tool to delay projects.
 

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obvious answer is, it's just the way some of the procedures are structured.

during UPA, concepts like lokayukta and NGT were introduced to make sure activists have a say in second guessing and challenge govt decisions and procedures. which became a tool to delay projects.
My understanding is if the GoI wants to seriously pursue a major infrastructure project somewhere; they will do it anyway since beyond a certain point the milords do not really care. There might be a few tweaks here and a few tweaks there but that is usually it. I was closely following the court proceesings of the Char dham highway project. Chandrachud, as usual, was giving away sermons and arbitrary observations at the beginning but after a few hearings started sounding different and eventually refused to intervene. This is generally how these cases go; be it the Mumbai metro car shed, Mumbai coastal road, port in Kerala or hydroelectric projects in Assam.

As for this particular case;

 
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My understanding is if the GoI wants to seriously pursue a major infrastructure project somewhere; they will do it anyway since beyond a certain point the milords do not really care. There might be a few tweaks here and a few tweaks there but that is usually it. I was closely following the court proceesings of the Char dham highway. Chandrachud, as usual, was giving away sermons and arbitrary observations in the beginning but after a few hearings started sounding different and eventually refused to intervene. This is generally how these cases go; be it the Mumbai metro car shed, Mumbai coastal road, port in Kerala or hydroelectric projects in Assam.

As for this particular case goes;

on chardham, if i remember correctly ASG had to bring in china angle into his argument, only then the milards calmed down.
 

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My understanding is if the GoI wants to seriously pursue a major infrastructure project somewhere; they will do it anyway since beyond a certain point the milords do not really care. There might be a few tweaks here and a few tweaks there but that is usually it. I was closely following the court proceesings of the Char dham highway. Chandrachud, as usual, was giving away sermons and arbitrary observations at the beginning but after a few hearings started sounding different and eventually refused to intervene. This is generally how these cases go; be it the Mumbai metro car shed, Mumbai coastal road, port in Kerala or hydroelectric projects in Assam.

As for this particular case;

The government originally intended to make the chardham roads four lane though. Had to back down because the court denied adequate RoW. The SC even overruled a bench constituted by itself when it agreed with the govt recommended RoW.

Also, cost escalation due to delays in projects is a real cause for concern in India.
 

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on chardham, if i remember correctly ASG had to bring in china angle into his argument, only then the milards calmed down.
Oh, yes that is another trick up on their sleeves. I am pretty sure the strategic importance angle would be raised here also; if the need is felt.

As for the Char dham highway project;

Judgment paves way to widen non-strategic roads

In addition to the strategic roads, the judgment also granted “liberty” to the Centre “to pursue appropriate legal proceedings” to implement DL-PS standards on the 151 km of non-strategic roads under the project.

  1. Dharasu to Janaki Chatti, 75 km
  2. Rudraprayag to Gaurikund, 76 km
Work had been stalled on the 151 km stretch despite the September 2020 Supreme Court order directing road width to be 5.5 m.

A highly placed MoRTH official who is also associated with the project said on condition of anonymity: “Work on the stretch was stalled since we [MoRTH] wanted DL-PS configuration for the entire project.”

“It is an unfortunate judgment that opens gates to widen even the non-strategic roads,” Bhanot said. “This further proves that the defence argument was used to serve MoRTH’s agenda.”
 

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