Is'nt this the hymn they (soldiers) sing during the flight?Just now finished watching "Raid on Entebbe." ...Awesome movie..
Hine Ma Tov Umanaim....
Is'nt this the hymn they (soldiers) sing during the flight?Just now finished watching "Raid on Entebbe." ...Awesome movie..
Hine Ma Tov Umanaim....
What makes sense to you?I just get frustrated with pro-Israel Indians sometimes because it honestly just doesn't make sense to me.
Former victims of colonialism advocating another peoples right to colonise an entire people... am I missing something?What makes sense to you?
The Arabs never really had a chance to prove their ownership because of Treaty of Sèvres. The Ottoman empire had to give up Palestine to England, which already had the aim of establishing Israel.The creation of Israel has a very interesting history.
It is not always legally correct and yet there are those who claim it is legal.
The interesting part is that the Arabs being nomadic had no legal documents to prove the land is theirs.. And I believe this is a point that the Israelis forward to state that the land does not belong to the Arabs. I read this in another forum, but I am not too sure of this issue.
A naughty knotty problem.
Its not as simple as that. Besides from your post it appears you have fragmented knowledge of issue.Former victims of colonialism advocating another peoples right to colonise an entire people... am I missing something?
Jews enjoy complete equality and freedom of religion in the US, which has more than enough room to host every last Israeli. I'm not against the Jews living in Israel as long as they purchase the land legally from rightful Palestinian land owners, and also accept collective ownership of Palestine with people of other faiths. The creation of the Jewish state is exactly the same thing as the creation of the British Raj.
Give me any religious book and I'll show you how messed up it is.I've read the entire Torah... I can't even begin to explain how messed up it is.
We went down like wimps. Please explain why our ancestors could not defend Somnath from muslim invades and it was sacked 13 times. I mean come on - 13 times is a limit.Unlike us Indians who were forcibly oppressed on our land,
.the Jews have pissed off every empire and were oppressed for a reason. They aren't the quiet innocent religious community you think they are..
You are so dumb. I'll have to start from the begining.Just because Hitler had pride in his own race doesn't mean he hated every other race.
Hitler was just a die-hard nationalist that believed in a racial state where citizenship was based on blood instead of the current kinds of citizenship we have today.
You are the one who needs to learn about history - Palestine as a territory was known since 5 Century BC.Please learn some history.... the Palestinians didn't even exist during 70 AD...
The Romans were already ruling over Palestine since 63 BC.the Jews rebelled against the Roman empire and put up defenses all over Judea so Rome had to fight for a few months before they finally broke through and destroyed the second temple. The Roman punishment for the rebellion was the occupation of Judea and the exile of the Jews.
You need to read more...The Jews don't have an ancestral homeland...
A clear violation of human rights and international law is.... well a clear violation of human rights and international law. None of your excuses can justify this.Its not as simple as that. Besides from your post it appears you have fragmented knowledge of issue.
Self-Righteousness..... awesome.
Give me any religious book and I'll show you how messed up it is.
"It's not as simple as that."
We went down like wimps. Please explain why our ancestors could not defend Somnath from muslim invades and it was sacked 13 times. I mean come on - 13 times is a limit.
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And that makes it right? The strong shall always dominate and conquer the weak? That's not an Indian ideal at all.
Please elaborate...how are jews so evil. Do you know about the contribution of Jews in India?
I didn't say Jews were evil.... I said Jews act parasitically.... They can do whatever the ---- they want to with their own religion.
You are so dumb. I'll have to start from the begining.
You completely misunderstood what I meant.... racial nationalism is NOT racism as you know it. Germany was an incredibly divided country during Hitler's
time and racial nationalism was a means of unifying the nation. Even during the first reich Germany was never unified like it was under Hitler.
You are the one who needs to learn about history - Palestine as a territory was known since 5 Century BC.
Try understanding what I'm actually talking about before telling me random nonsense I already learned in High school.
The Romans were already ruling over Palestine since 63 BC.
Once again more random nonsense.... I said rebellion as in.... Judea was already occupied and controlled by Rome.......
Had the arab armies not decided to invade and wipe out the Jews in 1948, this problem would not have existed. The irony is that now the Palestinians have accepted the same UN resolution of 1948, that they are rejected.
Most Indians who had settled in Burma during the times the British empire were 'money lenders' by profession. The opinion of Burmese about these Indians was not much different from what was thought about the Jews. They were despised and then hounded! Would you agree that it was a fair treatment?Unlike us Indians who were forcibly oppressed on our land, the Jews have pissed off every empire and were oppressed for a reason. They aren't the quiet innocent religious community you think they are...
Why on earth would Europe be jealous of Jews even with money? $ means nothing when you don't have a nation to spend it in..... it's just another common stereotype.
Have you heard of those nutcases who think Bhagavad Gita espouses violence!I've read the entire Torah... I can't even begin to explain how messed up it is. You're just another victim of Zionist propaganda, I thought exactly like you do for most of my life.
Indians who had migrated and settled in Africa ended up being a rich community within a few generations. You know what Idi Amin did to all Indians and why some of his countrymen supported him in this? Racial stereotyping!Why on earth would Europe be jealous of Jews even with money? $ means nothing when you don't have a nation to spend it in..... it's just another common stereotype.
I'd explain why Hitler said what he said, but I'd rather not have this post deleted as well. All I can say is you are miles off.
Btw just a fact: Only a small minority of Jews made it out of Poland/Russia to the west, those who weren't rich had to stay in the east. This created the stereotype of a wealthy Jewish banker because all Jewish immigrants to western Europe were bloody rich. The vast majority of Jews were incredibly poor as was the rest of Russia and Poland. Those so-called intellectual Jews you mention are the children of these rich Jews... these rich Jews had money to give their kids the best of everything including education, while most of the native population had to work to survive and couldn't afford to go to school.
mate can you point me what mistakes did i commit while writing my post:shocked:!whenever i see people thrashing the entire jewish community for no apparent reason,i tend to counter them by pointing out all the atrocities and heinous crime against the jewish people over the ages!i know most ofEven defense of the Jews falls into errors too numerous to point out.
Unfortunately you have it backwards my friend.mate can you point me what mistakes did i commit while writing my post:shocked:!whenever i see people thrashing the entire jewish community for no apparent reason,i tend to counter them by pointing out all the atrocities and heinous crime against the jewish people over the ages!i know most of
the members will criticise me for my views regarding the palestinians but the truth is their ancestors(who were known as cannites) invaded and conquered judea and drove away all the jews from their own homeland!so its only natural that after all these years when the jews became powerful they went and reclaimed what was truly theirs from the palestinians.
Yep....and also during the last scene when the C-130 arrives with the hostages..Is'nt this the hymn they (soldiers) sing during the flight?
WTH man? Then what about Muslims conquering Jerusalem, which was a holy land of the Christians for so many centuries. Jerusalem is for Christians what Mecca is for Muslims. Now should the christians have to go berserk(again) demanding the return of their "holyland"?A clear violation of human rights and international law is.... well a clear violation of human rights and international law. None of your excuses can justify this.
The arabs were pissed because the Jews were going to control a sizeable portion of their religious holy land in an area that was dominated by Islam for centuries.
How would you feel if a bunch of Christians immigrated and occupied Varanasi while denying you entrance to it?
Muslims conquering Jerusalem was fine, Anyone who was a "person of the book"(Jews & Christians) was allowed to come to Jerusalem and visit the holy sites and even live in Jerusalem, they just had to pay an extra tax for being non-muslim and they couldn't join the military.WTH man? Then what about Muslims conquering Jerusalem, which was a holy land of the Christians for so many centuries. Jerusalem is for Christians what Mecca is for Muslims. Now should the christians have to go berserk(again) demanding the return of their "holyland"?
I dont care what the Arab Wahabis think about this non-sense issue of "Holyland". As long as they are pissed, i will be more than happy to support Israel.
You are the one making excuses and justifying your anti-semitic views.A clear violation of human rights and international law is.... well a clear violation of human rights and international law. None of your excuses can justify this.
The Arabs dont only mean muslim arabs. Arabs in Palestine also mean christian arabs.The arabs were pissed because the Jews were going to control a sizeable portion of their religious holy land in an area that was dominated by Islam for centuries.
The comparison is flawed. As I said Jerusalem is claimed by jews, christians and the muslims, while Varanasi is only claimed by the hindus.How would you feel if a bunch of Christians immigrated and occupied Varanasi while denying you entrance to it?
Really...then the Brits kicking out the Ottomans was also fine..as per your logic.Muslims conquering Jerusalem was fine,..
Ah...so you are now justifying the jaziya tax!!Anyone who was a "person of the book"(Jews & Christians) was allowed to come to Jerusalem and visit the holy sites and even live in Jerusalem, they just had to pay an extra tax for being non-muslim and they couldn't join the military.
You hit the nail on the head Lemontree!Really...then the Brits kicking out the Ottomans was also fine..as per your logic.
Ah...so you are now justifying the jaziya tax!!
What if nations followed the same islamic logic..of religious tax. Imagine the second class status of the muslims...I'm sure that would not be acceptable to any muslim living in a non-muslim country.
BTW, you appear to be islamic findamentalist hiding behind a hindu nome de plume, the swastika and tricolour.
According to the Arabic-literary sources, Muhammad in a.d. 622 fled his home town of Mecca for Medina, a city with a substantial Jewish population. On arrival in Medina, if not slightly earlier, the Qur'an adopted a number of practices friendly to Jews: a Yom Kippur-like fast, a synagogue-like place of prayer, permission to eat kosher food, and approval to marry Jewish women. Most important, the Qur'an repudiated the pre-Islamic practice of the Meccans to pray toward the Ka'ba, the small stone structure at the center of the main mosque in Mecca. Instead, it adopted the Judaic practice of facing the Temple Mount in Jerusalem during prayer. (Actually, the Qur'an only mentions the direction as "Syria"; other information makes it clear that Jerusalem is meant.)WTH man? Then what about Muslims conquering Jerusalem, which was a holy land of the Christians for so many centuries. Jerusalem is for Christians what Mecca is for Muslims. Now should the christians have to go berserk(again) demanding the return of their "holyland"?
Jerusalem was being controlled by fundamentalist Christians who oppressed all Muslims and Jews when it was conquered by Islam so yeah it really was fine.Really...then the Brits kicking out the Ottomans was also fine..as per your logic.
Ah...so you are now justifying the jaziya tax!!
What if nations followed the same islamic logic..of religious tax. Imagine the second class status of the muslims...I'm sure that would not be acceptable to any muslim living in a non-muslim country.
BTW, you appear to be islamic findamentalist hiding behind a hindu nome de plume, the swastika and tricolour.