Indian Special Forces (archived)

[The Messiah]

BJP member who worked closely on the Hijack said " Could the Kandahar episode have ended any other way? Were an Indian aircraft to be hijacked again, would we respond any differently? Not really. As a nation we do not have the guts to stand up to terrorism. We cannot take hits and suffer casualties. We start counting our dead even before a battle has been won or lost. We make a great show of honouring those who die on the battlefield and lionise brave hearts of history, but we do not want our children to follow in their footsteps.

We are, if truth be told, a nation of cowards who don't have the courage to admit their weakness ..."

Kanchan Gupta, dailypioneer.com

is this true ? :shocked:

 

[The Messiah]

There was no other option to save the 176 Indians. AND ALL THE POLITICAL PARTIES SUPPORTED THAT

As a ruling party it is bjp decision.

Hijack fuck up was bjp ineptness and whatever happened in congress time was its ineptness.

Buck always stops at the govt.

 

[KS]

As a ruling party it is bjp decision.

Hijack fuck up was bjp ineptness and whatever happened in congress time was its ineptness.

Buck always stops at the govt.

No in this the Govt alone was not involved. It was an unanimous decision to free the terrorists & actually the Congress and Left insisted on releasing the terrorists to ensure the Indians were released safely and I agree with them.

We did not have the equipment to go to Kandahar to do an entebbe and the only way out was releasing the terroists. Even if Congress would have done that I would not have faulted them.

And it has been very clearly explained over the past dozen or so pages how the ineptness of Govt was not a problem , but the lack of equipement on the part of NSG, the logistics of NSG which were the main reason the plane leaving out of Amritsar. The Govt cannot and should not micromanage the things that fall within the domain of NSG such as tactics, logistics etc.

 

[Tshering22]

relax dude, they are still a police force and no soldiers

Police force eh? Here:

Serbian special police:

South Korean special police:

Chinese special police:

Turkish special police:

These people above are also special police; in the sense, the job they do is not usually for common police officers; SIMILAR to what CRPF does against communist terrorist vermin.

So if CRPF are police that means they are expendable? They don't have right to protective armor?

Check the difference between CRPF and these guys.

Mind you... none of these are commandos.

 

[Koovie]

I didnt mean that they dont need armour, I just wanted to say that we shouldnt concentrate too much on police commandos like the COBRA units. All CRPF cops need to be upgraded. I tired of seeing them going into battle with the same weapons like our grandfathers in WW2.
And all those special police dudes above are also commandos, they just dont wear the commando batch because the word commando is used mostly for military units in commonwealth countries. And our current NSG commandos are already on the same level like those serbian cops

 

[Koovie]

BTW whats the different between a balistic and a kevlar helmet? and what helmets are the COBRAS using??

 

[Tshering22]

I didnt mean that they dont need armour, I just wanted to say that we shouldnt concentrate too much on police commandos like the COBRA units. All CRPF cops need to be upgraded. I tired of seeing them going into battle with the same weapons like our grandfathers in WW2.
And all those special police dudes above are also commandos, they just dont wear the commando batch because the word commando is used mostly for military units in commonwealth countries. And our current NSG commandos are already on the same level like those serbian cops

None of the countries I posted above are Commonwealth nations mate. Turkey, China, Serbia, South Korea... none of these are commonwealth. They are special police. Any police designated to do stuff like this that is outside conventional city police job is special police.

 

[mayankkrishna]

May i know, what equipment they are carrying on their waists ^^

 

[sayareakd]

May i know, what equipment they are carrying on their waists ^^

Fins
Another problem with a frogman who may have to come ashore and operate on land is the awkwardness of walking on land in fins, unless he plans to discard his kit and return to base by some other way than by diving, or if the frogmen plan to take and hold a position on land until other troops arrive. Some sport diving fins have the blade angled downwards for more effective swimming, but this makes walking on them more awkward.
The usual solution is for the frogman to take his fins off and carry them, but that takes time and occupies a hand carrying them unless he can clip them in to his kit or thread an arm through the fins' straps. Nowadays all fins can be clipped onto a belt without having any disadvantages.
Another type of fin that frogmen could use would have a lockable hinge which on land can be unlocked to let the fin blade hinge up out of the way when walking: for example Flipfins.
The first type of British naval swimming fin had a short blade which was even shorter at the big toe side: this made walking on land easier for such purposes as creeping up on a sentry from behind on land, but reduced swimming speed.

Frogman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[rahulrds1]

-2 out of 10 Volunteers make the final cut.

-2 years of very difficult commando training turns them into marcos.

Watch the 2.14 sec part

 

[Yatharth Singh]

The marching style and the camo looks eerily similar to that of the Para SF.

Thats NSG mate.

 

[Tomcat]

no those are Paras my friends

 

[Yatharth Singh]

Cant be wrong this time. This pic is of year 2009 just after the unfortunate 26/11 and I remember that announcer took name of NSG quoting their presence for the first time. Cant forget that scene when they were doing the hilarious running march. WOW!!!!!!!!! What a scene it was. Horrifying. Their boot noise was so awesome with their contingent shouting 'kadamtaal'.

 

[plugwater]

Cant be wrong this time. This pic is of year 2009 just after the unfortunate 26/11 and I remember that announcer took name of NSG quoting their presence for the first time. Cant forget that scene when they were doing the hilarious running march. WOW!!!!!!!!! What a scene it was. Horrifying. Their boot noise was so awesome with their contingent shouting 'kadamtaal'.

What was so hilarious march ? It is harder than normal march and again you are wrong, they are paras not NSG.

 

[sayareakd]

Cant be wrong this time. This pic is of year 2009 just after the unfortunate 26/11 and I remember that announcer took name of NSG quoting their presence for the first time. Cant forget that scene when they were doing the hilarious running march. WOW!!!!!!!!! What a scene it was. Horrifying. Their boot noise was so awesome with their contingent shouting 'kadamtaal'.

they do 40:40 march at least two or three times a week, 40:40 means, 40 km with 40 kg weight. Need for this march is because para commando is drop behind the enemy lines, our guys dont expect to be pic up by helicopters, they are trained to come back running, all the 40 km.

 

[Koovie]

None of the countries I posted above are Commonwealth nations mate. Turkey, China, Serbia, South Korea... none of these are commonwealth. They are special police. Any police designated to do stuff like this that is outside conventional city police job is special police.

Yes thats the reason why they arent commandos, they dont use the term commando. Also note that the term commando is used for nearly every unit in India that has specialised training in any form

 

[Yatharth Singh]

they do 40:40 march at least two or three times a week, 40:40 means, 40 km with 40 kg weight. Need for this march is because para commando is drop behind the enemy lines, our guys dont expect to be pic up by helicopters, they are trained to come back running, all the 40 km.

Am aware of that. And that 'WEIGHT' you are talking about is the complete combat load which is not 40 but 60 kg.

What was so hilarious march ? and again you are wrong, they are paras not NSG.

If you have seen that then you`ll know which feel i`s talking about which i`m sure you have not. May be you`r too busy but i`m not. And my apologies yes they are Para.

 

[debasree]

ggod to see the heroes of sea in a new avatar

 

[Galaxy]

NSG regional hub inaugurated in Hyderabad

NSG regional hub inaugurated in Hyderabad


06/12/2011


Hyderabad, Dec 5 (IANS) Union Home Minister P. Chidambaram Monday inaugurated a regional hub of the elite anti-terror National Security Guard (NSG) here.

The hub has come up at a cost of Rs.37.96 crore on 22 acres of land at Tirmulghery in Secunderabad, Hyderabad's twin city.

Speaking on the occasion, Chidambaram said the NSG were being provided modern weapons and the world-class training to thwart terrorist attacks and hijacking of airplanes.

He said NSG commandoes would be sent to visit their counterparts in Russia and France to update themselves on training methods and equipment.

Recalling that the decision to set up the regional NSG hub was taken after the terror attack in Mumbai Nov 26-28, 2008, with the aim to reduce response time and reach the area of operation as quickly as possible, Chidmabaram said that following the measures taken by the government and security agencies, the number of terror attacks has come down.

'There were only three blasts in three years, but that is one achievement. Busting of 57 or 58 terror modules is another achievement, but the biggest achievement is the capacity we have created throughout the country (to tackle terrorism),' he said.

The home minister said the capacity was created in the NSG, the Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF), the Border Security Force (BSF) and the Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP) and new courses were introduced at the National Police Academy in Hyderabad.

'New training modules were created, new equipment provided and a huge amount of money was spent on this,' he said.

It was in July 2009 that Chidambaram had formally inaugurated the regional hub at a ceremony held at the old airport but the infrastructure has only come up now.

Though three regional NSG hubs were already functional at Mumbai, Chennai and Kolkata, the hub at Secunderabad is the first to have permanent infrastructure.

Stressing on quick response time to counter terrorist attacks, Chidambaram said the minimum time for an NSG unit of Hyderabad to assemble and be airborne would be 60 minutes.

The idea of setting up regional hubs was born out of the fact that it took several hours to deploy NSG commandos from Manesar, near Gurgaon in Haryana, which was hometo the NSG then, to Mumbai on 26/11.

The regional hub here will have 241 commandos, ready for deployment round the clock at the shortest possible notice.

Chidambaram said a state-of-the art facility exclusively for the NSG training in southern states would soon come up at Ibrahimpatnam near Hyderabad.

Andhra Pradesh Home Minister P. Sabita Indra Reddy and NSG Director General R. Medhekar were also present.

NSG regional hub inaugurated in Hyderabad - V

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

Guys I took some photos with my Sony ericsson mobile on the Navy day at Vishakapatnam. I will upload them in two days.