Indian Special Forces (archived)

[Anikastha]

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The naval helicopter slithered down a team of #MARCOS frm rooftop of the #Hotel.

Thereafter, the team moved into a particular location of the hotel & rescued the hostages

Casualty evacuation and prisoner handling drills were also carried out during the exercise.

location vizag????
ground hill looks like simhachalam hill...
@Sandeep0159

 

[abingdonboy]

Most of them are armed with mp5 and corner shot.

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9mm for this role is stupid today.

They should have ordered a 5.56mm carbine by now.

CAR-816 deal is dead now so it’s going to be a long time before they get any I suspect.

 

[Kchontha]

9mm for this role is stupid today.

They should have ordered a 5.56mm carbine by now.

CAR-816 deal is dead now so it’s going to be a long time before they get any I suspect.

They are also armed other equally capable room intervention weapons such as M4A1 5.56mm NATO Assault Rifle and IMI Tavor 5.56mm NATO Assault Rifle Series.

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[Unknowncommando 2]

NSG ..........................................................................

 

[mupper]

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Eeek, shouldn't grip an Mp-5 by the mag, you'll unseat it and might cause a feed issue.

 

[Prashant12]

India gets first crack special operations unit

India is boosting its firepower for more frequent surgical strikes like tactical operations and secret missions with setting up of the first-of-its kind special operations division

India is boosting its firepower for more frequent surgical strikes like tactical operations and secret missions with setting up of the first-of-itskind special operations division, comprising elite commandos from all three services -Army, Navy and the Air Force.

Sources told India Today TV that a Major General rank officer from Army's Special Forces, the Para Commandos, has been appointed to head this division which will soon start functioning.


"Recruitment for tri-service special operations division is underway and soon it will have a substantial number," said an official.

The Special Forces or the commando wings of each force work separately but the idea is to have a common pool that can train and carry out sensitive missions within and outside the country, while maintaining secrecy.

Carrying out operations across the borders, and specific antiterror missions targeting terror infrastructure will be the focus of this tri-service special force.

"Sometimes, these kinds of operations require skills that need to be synergised from all three wings of the armed forces," sources said.

"A special division specifically meant for these high-value operations will be better prepared in executing these operations to get better results," said an official. It will also be able to launch missions at a short notice. The Para Commandos of the Army, marine commandos popularly known as Marcos of the Navy and Garud commandos of the Air Force will be part of this special operations division.

The division will work under the Integrated Defence Staff (IDS) responsible for synergising the functioning of the three forces and headed by a Lt General rank officer. "The concept is that all three services can come together whenever required but for that, it's important that they train and live together. To begin with, the headquarters have to be raised comprising personnel from all three services. Once that's done, people can begin to be posted," said Lt Gen Satish Dua (Retd) who headed the IDS till last year when the planning was underway.

Sources said, "To begin with, it will have 150-200 personnel but the numbers will be gradually increased and the plan is to have a 2,000-strong commando triservice division. The numbers from the Army will be more than the other two services."

It was the Naresh Chandra Committee, formed in 2012, that recommended the setting up of three special commands -Cyber, Space, and Special Operations to meet new challenges regarding national security.

https://www.indiatoday.in/mail-today/story/indian-army-navy-air-force-1525212-2019-05-15

 

[aarav]

Armed Forces Special Operation Division ,it leverages having high number of special troops of 3 services work in unity behind enemy lines.

 

[12arya]

This is from 2011 article....why do we try to jeopardize our own capabilities!

 

[Suryavanshi]

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The naval helicopter slithered down a team of #MARCOS frm rooftop of the #Hotel.

Thereafter, the team moved into a particular location of the hotel & rescued the hostages

Casualty evacuation and prisoner handling drills were also carried out during the exercise.

Shouldn't the MP 5 be replaced with JVPC or is not meant for that

 

[Maddy_9UY]

Shouldn't the MP 5 be replaced with JVPC or is not meant for that

I think they uses subsonic 9mm to prevent collateral damage during hostage rescue. Some of these high velocity rounds could penetrate surfaces and may hurt hostages in another room.

 

[sthf]

9mm for this role is stupid today.

They should have ordered a 5.56mm carbine by now.

CAR-816 deal is dead now so it’s going to be a long time before they get any I suspect.

Either they forgot that they have hundreds of Tavors in their inventory or they are clueless as to what equipment to use where and when?

Which do you suppose is true:

a) They are forgetful.
b) They know less about their job than you do.

 

[binayak95]

I think they uses subsonic 9mm to prevent collateral damage during hostage rescue. Some of these high velocity rounds could penetrate surfaces and may hurt hostages in another room.

Subsonic 9mm is used primarily for suppression. A subsonic 9mm firing suppressed Mp5 is extremely quiet.

 

[Gessler]

Subsonic 9mm is used primarily for suppression. A subsonic 9mm firing suppressed Mp5 is extremely quiet.

Looking back, I can't seem to recall if MARCOS have MP-5SDs or not. NSG certainly does.

The SD variants with their integral suppressors are designed to slow down even a regular supersonic bullet to subsonic levels before it exits the muzzle. Plus, the SD retains the same length as a regular MP5 (no extra length added by a threaded/QD suppressor).

When it comes to having a suppressed MP5, going for the SD is a no-brainer.

 

[rkhanna]

Looking back, I can't seem to recall if MARCOS have MP-5SDs or not. NSG certainly does.

The SD variants with their integral suppressors are designed to slow down even a regular supersonic bullet to subsonic levels before it exits the muzzle. Plus, the SD retains the same length as a regular MP5 (no extra length added by a threaded/QD suppressor).

When it comes to having a suppressed MP5, going for the SD is a no-brainer.

They 100% do. Just YouTube the video of Marcos entering the taj during 26/11 SDs galore

What we need are 11inch AR15s with supressors for the same CQB work now.


In other news Major Gen Dhingra is the first commander of SOD. Fuck ya ( pardon my French) . 1 Para - made his bones in Sri Lanka. Kick ass operator . Off to a good start I say

 

[rkhanna]

They are also armed other equally capable room intervention weapons such as M4A1 5.56mm NATO Assault Rifle and IMI Tavor 5.56mm NATO Assault Rifle Series.

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The Tavor honestly makes for a substandard room intervention weapon. It's impossible to transition from one shoulder to another to look and shoot around corners without getting brass in the face. You can't even rotate your wrist without unbalancing the weapon and getting the magazine to hit your tricep

The new Gen Tavors address alot of issues but we don't have them .

The M4 we field are normal standard stock length barrells again not the most ideal while clearing a ship or an oil platform.

 

[aghamarshana]

location vizag????
ground hill looks like simhachalam hill...
@Sandeep0159

Yes, it is Vizag macha.
Confirmed.

 

[Bhadra]

India gets new Special Ops Division that can cripple targets miles inside enemy territory
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http://idrw.org/india-gets-new-spec...ets-miles-inside-enemy-territory/#more-201048 .

With an aim to add strategic heft to its operational ability in conventional war and anti-terror operations, India has set the ball rolling on the creation of a Special Forces Division. Major General A.K. Dhingra has been appointed as the first chief of the Armed Forces Special Operations Division, clearance for which was given by Prime Minister Narendra Modi during the Combined Commanders’ Conference in September 2018.

Along with Dhingra, a highly accomplished colonel has also been appointed, and they have been tasked with setting up the organisation, which will have its own set of equipment, top sources in the defence establishment told ThePrint. The proposed new division will have the capability to carry out crippling attacks against critical enemy targets miles away. It will have about 3,000 commandos drawn from the Special Forces of the Army, Marine Commando unit (MARCOS) of the Navy and Garud of the Air Force.

State of India’s special forces

The idea to have such a division, earlier to be known as Special Operations Command, was mooted by the Naresh Chandra committee set up in 2011.The division will work under the Integrated Defence Staff (IDS), responsible for synergising the functioning of the three forces and headed by a Lt General-rank officer.

While the Army has a strength of around 6,000 special forces personnel, both Navy and the IAF have around 1,000 each.As of now, the three special forces work under their own organisations, but specific units will be brought under the IDS to train and carry out specific high-value missions. Over the last few years, focus has been given to the needs of the special forces — be it as new equipment, including assault rifles and long-range sniper guns, or enhancing night operational ability.

Sources said specific units of the three services’ special forces will be allocated to the division on a rotational basis for a specified period of time.“It will be on rational basis and over a period of time all the personnel from the special forces of the three services will be able to operate jointly,” a source said.

Officers’ responsibilities

Top sources said a lot of thought went into the selection of the officers to head this new division.Maj. Gen. Dhingra, a Sri Lankan ops veteran, has been the commander of India’s only independent Para Brigade, and has served as the defence attaché in Washington. The concept of this division is also influenced from the US, which has the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC).

The newly-appointed officers have been asked to form the structured organisation by November-end, which will also include selecting where the headquarters will be based and what kind of equipment is needed.

The headquarters is likely to come up near an existing para centre, sources said.

Welcome step

Lt Gen. Satish Dua (retd), former chief of the IDS, welcomed the move.“Such integration will be very helpful in case India has to launch a special forces operation in the future where one needs expertise of Marcos, Garud and Special Forces Commandos together. It is a good to integrate special forces for operations. They will train and live together, which will help them to pick up the best practices of one another,” Dua told ThePrint.

 

[Gessler]

They 100% do. Just YouTube the video of Marcos entering the taj during 26/11 SDs galore

Will have to look them up.

What we need are 11inch AR15s with supressors for the same CQB work now.

Fully agree. With subsonic loads the penetration of surfaces is also severely mitigated reducing the possibility of injuring non-targets. It's kind of sad but it appears the first unit in India to adopt such compact AR15s (though it is a 9mm version) is actually OCTOPUS, and not any military unit:

AR-15 CQBRs are pretty much gold standard for most Hostage-intervention/SWAT teams in West nowadays. Slowly but surely, it will catch up here as well. We mustn't make the mistake of thinking there is a difference in philosophy here - there isn't. We just haven't caught up yet with the way things are evolving,

We followed Western units when MP-5 was gold standard. It isn't going to change today...we just take a bit too much time to adapt & change is all.

 

[Bhadra]

The headquarters is likely to come up near an existing para centre, sources said.

Gayi Bhains Pani Men ......

Basai would be better for the HQ.... Special place for training.:biggrin2:

 

[Unknowncommando 2]

Shaurya Chakra Awardee MARCO Praveen Kumar Teotia is currently training Gujarat Police CHETAK Commandos He can be seen with the SIG 556 SWAT rifle with Trijicon RMR Sight which was procured by CHETAK 2 years ago Great opportunity to learn from an Ex MARCOS operator