Indian nuclear submarines

[Kalki_2018]

LIke I thought. The new powerful reactor should increase the speed and hopefully will be used on the SSN's too.

 

[Khagesh]

I don't think the reactor in the Aridaman would be a whole lot different from the one in Arihant. Arihant is 80 Mw and the one on Aridaman would have travelled further in terms of refinement etc. only. May be 100 Mw but these small incremental changes have a disproportionate effect on the ultimate throw weight.

Chakra-2 has been with IN for about 5 years now and the reactor in it must have been studied fairly closely by now. Wish the next in the series is closer to 180-200 MwT.

 

[Prayash]

how does parikrama gets news about nuclear submarines,lca,rafles before we get it from msm,is he mod guy?
im very curious to know,tell me someone!

 

[lcafanboy]

Cross Posting From IDF PARIKRAMA.............. This is HUGE if TRUE

"Small Pointers of how MSM is cloaked from the reality of our SSBN Program

1. INS Arihant began sea trials in 16 Dec 2014 in BoB with 9 months of sea trials and afterwards another < 9 months of weapon testing.
2. INS Arihant fired K-15 Prototype in full operational configuration from a depth of 25m in November 2015 after conducting multiple dummy tests in Sep-Oct 2015.
3. INS Arihant did ejection test for K4 Mk1 in Feb 2016 with 4 tubes ejection in a matter of seconds. The dummy included a mix of K4 Mk1 and K15 (3 different mission load configs from the same tube) replicas for a full discharge of its onboard ballistic firepower.
4. INS Arihant fired K4 in a highly depressed trajectory in full operational configuration from a depth of 30m in March 2016 for approx 750 km.
5. This was followed by INS Arihant firing a full capacity K4 Mk1 at a range of ~4000 km in A&N region. This was covered up by Multiple Brahmos test in A&N in simultaneous days and Navarea warnings issued for the same to clear out the whole area in the pathway.
6. INS Arihant started deterrent patrolling from July 2016 onwards.
7. Aridhaman did the first launch in April, 2016 and even participated in a naval exercise (limited capacity owing to deployment of Arihant in a deterrent patrol mission and since Ardhaman was undergoing sea trials) in the later part of 2016..
8. Beginning January 2017, INS Aridhaman entered into weapon trials and is expected to complete it by September end 2017
9. Formally October 2017 should see deployment of INS Aridhaman in deterrence patrol role.

The Indian SSBN program is managed very well and have seen a huge upswing with the NSA Doval coming onboard. The MSM is completely blacked out and a massive surge in budget has been provided to quicken the pace of the under developed units.

If the pace continues then we will see the indigenous SSN also at a much faster rate then expected.

A piece of nasty surprise... Codenamed K6 with MIRV is in final stages along with land version A6. A range of 8000-10000 km is expected (based on twin configurations) but officially it will be claimed much lesser (like always). Its expected to be green lighted for testing within next year (unless geo political considerations change that decision)."

 

[Chinmoy]

A6 is never going to be announced IMO. It would be SLBM version which India would announce for sure.

 

[lcafanboy]

A6 is never going to be announced IMO. It would be SLBM version which India would announce for sure.

If you look at article above posted by @Prashant12 it states the INS Aridaman will go on Patrol in 2019 and if you look at my post from PARIKRAMA it clearly states it will be on Patrol next month itself......... Frankly they are declaring 1-3 years later so in my opinion we may now be having launch of THIRD SSBN which would be on harbor & sea trial and induction by 2019, at this pace we will be having all 4 SSBN on Patrol by 2020 itself................

 

[Chinmoy]

If you look at article above posted by @Prashant12 it states the INS Aridaman will go on Patrol in 2019 and if you look at my post from PARIKRAMA it clearly states it will be on Patrol next month itself......... Frankly they are declaring 1-3 years later so in my opinion we may now be having launch of THIRD SSBN which would be on harbor & sea trial and induction by 2019, at this pace we will be having all 4 SSBN on Patrol by 2020 itself................

Well......... I was talking about Agni 6 missile.

 

[aditya10r]

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

[lcafanboy]

A6 is never going to be announced IMO. It would be SLBM version which India would announce for sure.

AGNI-6 is already tested and is in inventory in ready to use condition. So RELAX have a peace of mind as LIZARD CHEEN also knows it and is the reason why it went back from DOKLAM with its tail snugged in its legs............

 

[Chinmoy]

AGNI-6 is already tested and is in inventory in ready to use condition. So RELAX have a peace of mind as LIZARD CHEEN also knows it and is the reason why it went back from DOKLAM with its tail snugged in its legs............

That is what I am saying. GoI is unlikely going to declare A6. But they would for sure declare any SLBM version of it. For surface to surface version, may be MIRVed version would get declared soon enough.

 

[lcafanboy]

Well......... I was talking about Agni 6 missile.

I was talking about announcements............ which could be misleading. Done purposely to fool our enemies.

 

[lcafanboy]

Here's a bit of addition to Point 4 & 5:
If you google NavArea warnings for the period and resulting tests, there was several tests of Brahmos in the period. On 7th May 15, at Pokaran on 8/9 May 15 off Trak Island in A&N. But also one off Balasore on the same day, two Naval Flotillas were out for range clearance during that same period. Isn't it interesting?

 

[Superdefender]

@lcafanboy

If K-4 Mk.I is capable of covering ~4,000 km, then K-4 Mk.II will be capable of target in between 5,000-7,500 km. I think, the range of K-5 is 7,500-10,000 km and not of K-6. S-5 SSBNs will have 12 tubes for K-5s. K-6 will be the longest range SLBM with less than 13,000 km. I am sure they must have planned bigger and better version of S-5 SSBNs with capacity to carry 16 K-6 SLBMs.

 

[Trinetra]

India's INS Aridhaman is loaded with key features as it eyes underwater prowess

http://zeenews.india.com/india/indi...ub-loaded-with-advanced-features-2042853.html

New Delhi: India will soon launch its second indigenously-built nuclear submarine INS Aridhaman to boost its underwater fighting prowess.

The new vessel, being built at the Ship Building Centre in Visakhapatnam, is loaded with numerous advanced features.

INS Aridhaman has more missile-carrying capacity than its sister sub INS Arihant, which was inducted into service in 2009.

The submarine can move faster underwater and carry ballistic missiles such as the K-15 and K-4. These missiles can reportedly hit targets as far as 3500 km.

INS Aridhaman, which is being built under the Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV) project, can carry up to 24 indigenously-developed missiles.

Another key feature of INS Aridhaman is its powerful reactor. The new submarine's reactor is said to be more powerful than Arihant’s 83 MW pressurised light-water reactor.

The stronger reactor would allow Aridhaman to boost its speed in an unprecedented manner under the sea.

The submarine is also fitted with seven-blade propeller, powered by a pressurised water reactor, which allows the vessel to travel at 24 nautical miles per hour under the water.

On surface, Aridhaman can move at a speed of 12-15 knots.

Defence Minister Nirmala Sitharaman is likely to launch the new submarine later this month, and then it will undergo extensive trials before its induction into service, the New India Express reported.

Since submarines are hard to detect, they enable a country to retain a second-strike capability in case of a first-nuclear strike.

“By virtue of its stealth and attendant survivability of second-strike capability, a nuclear submarine is particularly suited for nuclear deterrence,” the government noted in a 2009 report.

With the launch of the home-made submarines, India has joined elite group of countries - the five permanent members of the UN Security Council – which operate indigenously-built nuclear vessels.

 

[Chinmoy]

Now now now...........

INS Aridhaman has more missile-carrying capacity than its sister sub INS Arihant, which was inducted into service in 2009.

Is this a deliberate printing mistake by zeenews? Because as per official version, Arihant got inducted in 2016 and was launched in 2009.

 

[Trinetra]

Now now now...........



Is this a deliberate printing mistake by zeenews? Because as per official version, Arihant got inducted in 2016 and was launched in 2009.

May be... Journalists are always understand something and write something..

 

[NeXoft007]

AGNI-6 is already tested and is in inventory in ready to use condition. So RELAX have a peace of mind as LIZARD CHEEN also knows it and is the reason why it went back from DOKLAM with its tail snugged in its legs............

Agni 6 is not tested, and not built either. But the blueprint & the resources are ready, its just the political green light DRDO requires, after which DRDO can deliver it under 1 month.

 

[sayareakd]

Agni 6 is not tested, and not built either. But the blueprint & the resources are ready, its just the political green light DRDO requires, after which DRDO can deliver it under 1 month.

Wonder whats stopping them.................

 

[captscooby81]

Are you saying it takes less than 30 days a build a ICBM from blue print into the metal ????

Are you really sure about this time frame ?? Also can you tell me if you have knowledge what is the average production time required to build Agni 4 or 5 if we want to increase ??

Agni 6 is not tested, and not built either. But the blueprint & the resources are ready, its just the political green light DRDO requires, after which DRDO can deliver it under 1 month.

 

[NeXoft007]

Are you saying it takes less than 30 days a build a ICBM from blue print into the metal ????

Are you really sure about this time frame ?? Also can you tell me if you have knowledge what is the average production time required to build Agni 4 or 5 if we want to increase ??

It does, look at North Korea repeatedly launching ICBMs and still have enough ICBMs for show off at parades.