Indian nuclear attack on Rawalpindi

[Yusuf]

The sole idea of Chinese is they know that detterence is something we believe with Pakis.If we have a political like Indhira Gandhi who calls it bluff what will happen?

We dont actually. India has realized this in the last ten years and cold start is being fine tuned. The next major mumbai like terror attack will see India take military action.

 

[Iamanidiot]

Do they want to go down the drain in case of an indo-pak fight?How do you like my proposal

 

[Iamanidiot]

Yusuf one thing I have realized is cutting China down to size is through butchering Pakistan.Just like they broke USSR encirclement through war with vietnam

 

[Tshering22]

Once we have all the Phalcon AWACS delivered and many of our own indigenous AWACS completed I don't think a mosquito will fly across the border undetected, not to mention our satellites and intelligence sharing with other nations.

LF, jets and helos have been flying into India from PLAAF because we HAVE MOSQUITOS sitting in Delhi and ruling us rather than Tigers (as should be). PLAAF and PLA come into India whenever they want and these losers let hem. Phalcon, fighters or soldiers is not the problem; POLITICIANS are. They let China ride them left right and center and make our military look like a bunch of cooties.

All the fancy equipment is WASTE unless and until we get a strong ruling body that has guts of steel and a foreign policy stand of a adamantium pillar. If there's political WILL; even a dozen common Indian Army foot soldiers can send Chinese packing (as was the case in Major Dhan Singh Thapa's case in 62 when he and his 5 men sent 300 PLA soldiers up without ticket).

 

[Yusuf]

Yusuf one thing I have realized is cutting China down to size is through butchering Pakistan.Just like they broke USSR encirclement through war with vietnam

I dont think India with our history and culture will butcher them. All we want is peace. Rest they are going down anyways without a shot being fired. The best way is to break them up again. but then this is not a thread for that topic and also this topic too has been discussed at length.

 

[Tshering22]

Yusuf one thing I have realized is cutting China down to size is through butchering Pakistan.Just like they broke USSR encirclement through war with vietnam

100% agreed. The only difference is Vietnamese gave a bloody nose to China despite no nukes but in our case we have radical mulla population who's more suicidal than a male tarantula and is equipped with a nuclear weapon. If somehow IAEA or some other agency is able to cross the red line of paranoia and declare seizure of Pakistani nuclear arsenal, we can deliver a final punishing blow, retake POK, exterminate mulla radicals of POK and our Kashmir and repopulate the indigenous exiled people like pandits, buddhists and sikhs and after all this focus our development towards Dragon.


The only way we can create enough pressure on Pakistan is to promote its terrorist image (instead of accepting its false victim image), make sure that IAEA, NSG, UNSC, NATO, Russia, EU and all such entities are worried sick of Taliban getting hold of nukes (since they won't understand the truth that Taliban and Pak Army are interchangable terms when it comes to Indian situation). Remember that these countries have Jihad going on against them as well with radicalized immigrants creating ways to expand terror networks and join existing ones. So the only way to crush Pakistan senseless is through political stand and to encourage the idea that nukes are at any given time, 1 step away from Taliban/AQ. A de-nuked Pakistan will be a walk in the park (It could not take more than a week or 2) for IA and IAF to finish off. We need to twist democratic principles with nationalist autocratic concept if we have to tame Kashmir's fundamentalist population (since it has perpetrated maximum problems for exiled Pandits and even their Shias).

 

[Tshering22]

I dont think India with our history and culture will butcher them. All we want is peace. Rest they are going down anyways without a shot being fired. The best way is to break them up again. but then this is not a thread for that topic and also this topic too has been discussed at length.

Yusuf, future is very unpredictable. If we are able to get a strong leader along the way who's fiercely nationalist in attitude and very decisive, he/she might be able to quash Pakistani psyche once and for all---maybe not literally butchering but punish enough to spread dread among them so that they never attack. "Suicidal" is a word only used for their local consumption and to use as a last ditch attempt at psychological war against India due to the widening gap between us. Once they see Gurkha, Sikh, Jat, Maratha regiments etc pulverizing their locals like a sack of potatoes, they'd wet their pants and beg for their lives.

But in case this thing happens (I wish it does... let the problem be solved permanently on our western front), we will definitely take back POK whatever the world says and tame it even if we have to brainwash the local population into reality.

 

[ajtr]

I dont think India with our history and culture will butcher them. All we want is peace. Rest they are going down anyways without a shot being fired. The best way is to break them up again. but then this is not a thread for that topic and also this topic too has been discussed at length.

well if indians can go on butchering rampage during partition then whats stops them to go on 2nd rampage through nukes...

 

[Tshering22]

You take the words too literally. Your government cannot control militants, your intelligence unit is in love with them, we're having radicalization of Kashmiri muslims in India, not to mention radicalization of Kerala, Assam and Bengal through your sleeper cells which is becoming a problem. So naturally we're going to think on larger terms. If you cannot stop attacking us, we will have to retaliate as a response.

One more terror strike like 2008 means either the ruling government is screwed or your establishment is in deep soup. So take your pick.

 

[ajtr]

You take the words too literally. Your government cannot control militants, your intelligence unit is in love with them, we're having radicalization of Kashmiri muslims in India, not to mention radicalization of Kerala, Assam and Bengal through your sleeper cells which is becoming a problem. So naturally we're going to think on larger terms. If you cannot stop attacking us, we will have to retaliate as a response.

One more terror strike like 2008 means either the ruling government is screwed or your establishment is in deep soup. So take your pick.

GOI cant do APeshit even if another attack comes.it has been proven time 'n again by pakistan.So stop fantasizing.Reality for you..GOI is out of ideas on how to deal with pakistan accept for come begging to Pak army to spare it.And its harsh truth ...early the indians realize better they will be.

 

[pankaj nema]

Next time a terror attack happens there will be a RESPONSE.
A punitive and swift and EMBARRASING strike. This Pakistan KNOWS and fears

Because the Pakistani NATION is built on a false sense of HONOUR This honour will go to pieces in case of Indian attack.

The choice of ESCALATION after Indian attack depends on Pakistan.

India will be prepared for EVERY THING.

 

[Parthy]

Next time a terror attack happens there will be a RESPONSE.
A punitive and swift and EMBARRASING strike. This Pakistan KNOWS and fears

Because the Pakistani NATION is built on a false sense of HONOUR This honour will go to pieces in case of Indian attack.

The choice of ESCALATION after Indian attack depends on Pakistan.

India will be prepared for EVERY THING.

But how do we pressurize government to take swift action in case of another 26/11?? And what if GOI didn't respond again as they did before??

 

[sayareakd]

question to all, Pakistan has full stop after use of its nuclear weapons against India, our nuclear weapons policy starts after that (no first use with exceptions), Question is what is after that with respect to Pakistan ???

 

[ajtr]

Next time a terror attack happens there will be a RESPONSE.
A punitive and swift and EMBARRASING strike. This Pakistan KNOWS and fears

Because the Pakistani NATION is built on a false sense of HONOUR This honour will go to pieces in case of Indian attack.

The choice of ESCALATION after Indian attack depends on Pakistan.

India will be prepared for EVERY THING.

Even in all your hearts of heart know india in not prepared.thats why it always run to usa or sends dossiers.And pertaining to nuke escalation india has more to lose than pakistan.pakistan is already in dumps so it doesnt matter to it but im sure indians wont prefer to sacrifice its 20 yrs of hard work into seconds of nuke exchange.no doubt that pakistan will go down in nuke exchange but it will take india with it.

 

[sayareakd]

does any one think that Pakistan has change its nuclear doctrine "minimum credible deterrence ???

 

[Parthy]

All pak nukes are in component form. That is various elements of the bomb are separately stored. Its the same for india as well as china. Pakistan as much as give the order to assemble will go via american ears.

Pakistan always had nuke option in their cards against India... Even during Kargil war and it was accepted..

A note from Gaddar Kaun - Biography of Nawas Sheriff

Mr. Sharif has revealed the unrevealed (?) story of Kargil war between India and Pakistan. He stated that General Parvez Mussharraf had moved nuclear weapons and almost about to nuked India. This was the disclosures by Mr. Sharif who was the elected head of the government of Pakistan.

He, Surprisingly, said that he was completely unaware about the development lead by Pakistan Army under the Army-chief Musharraf. More surprisingly he came to know the facts from the then President of the US, Bill Clinton.

US was well aware of moves done by pakistan army.. But still they kept quiet and didn't shared any intelligence reports with India...

 

[Logan]

Well let us not talk about an nuclear attack on Pakistan or for that matter any military action,as by the way Pakistan's internal security and political scenario has shaped up the country will cease to exist in a few years of time and we can save both our resources and valuable time that would be spent on an attack.

 

[Parthy]

US and Russia at the hight of cold war had 50,000 nukes each.

Am not sure about how much nukes they owned during cold war...

As per the latest update, "new Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START) negotiated earlier this year restricts Russia and the United States to a maximum of 1,550 deployed warheads each, a cut of about 30 percent from a limit set in 2002."

source - http://www.defencetalk.com/nato-to-keep-nuclear-weapons-29953

 

[Parthy]

Well let us not talk about an nuclear attack on Pakistan or for that matter any military action,as by the way Pakistan's internal security and political scenario has shaped up the country will cease to exist in a few years of time and we can save both our resources and valuable time that would be spent on an attack.

Pals!!... Do u think it is going to end that easily...

If pakistan turns more politically unstable it is going to be a big trouble for
India.. More civil war and economic hurted society will be turned to jihadis by
Islamist extremist provided fund from arab nations...

India will be targeted for 90% as we are well placed geographically with them.
And the remaining 10% will be Israel, US and European nations..

"The only solution for Pakistan is either the people should not take jihad option
as part of their policy or Pakistan army and ISI should change their way to see India
and handle Kashmir to India to be considered as integral part of India.."

Do you think the above solution will work?? It is not going to work for 101% :emot154:

The only option is, if there is any terror attack happens on any Indian cities..
Attack pakistan from both eastern front and in POK conventionally.. We need to
push it hard as we can till the pakistan forces retreat from Kashmir.. And parallely, we should be
monitoring Chinese forces on western front and keep our forces on operation readiness
to counter any mis-adventure by China through Nepal/Tibet to support Pakistan. And when
they feel like they're going to lose Kashmir, they'll take Nuke option which was always
there at their cards against India.. And provided, our BMD is shielded the Indian borders
shared with Pakistan.. And this is the scenario, we go-ahead and wipe out Pakistan completely..
And demonstrate our strategic capability to the entire world and China so that in future
nobody takes any chances with us and will push for more diplomatic ties...

We have already proved that we have the capability and capacity to resurrect from the worst....

 

[Tshering22]

Even in all your hearts of heart know india in not prepared.thats why it always run to usa or sends dossiers.And pertaining to nuke escalation india has more to lose than pakistan.pakistan is already in dumps so it doesnt matter to it but im sure indians wont prefer to sacrifice its 20 yrs of hard work into seconds of nuke exchange.no doubt that pakistan will go down in nuke exchange but it will take india with it.

That's what COLD START is meant for. You're suicidal but we're genocidal. Keep this psychological nonsense to yourself. One city attacked with anything close to NBC and just see what response you get. And this taking down response means every country that even clanedestinely funds you from middle east. Our end would mean the annihilation of your kind straight from your theocratic wahabi master to your border with us.

You think you're the only one who can escalate the cost of a nuclear war? India has a lot to lose agreed; but your entire bandwagon of Arab masters who're secretly supporting you as RAW's monitoring are in for hell to if you want to play nuclear card. Indian intelligence is fully aware of Saudi's hand in funding your nuclear programme clandestinely.