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Actually they do have application and is actively being researched upon for use in Chips in computer Industry esp AI
More like power adaptor and power supply than the chips.

Gallium Nitride is more efficient in converting energy from one form to other (AC-DC) so it has more potential in making powerbanks, supply, adaptors, etc.
 

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More like power adaptor and power supply than the chips.

Gallium Nitride is more efficient in converting energy from one form to other (AC-DC) so it has more potential in making powerbanks, supply, adaptors, etc.
You are right but actually cost is limiting factor for use of GaN in our regular chips it seems. I found a relevant piece on similar question answered in quora so pasting here for brevity

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You are right but actually cost is limiting factor for use of GaN in our regular chips it seems. I found a relevant piece on similar question answered in quora so pasting here for brevity

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Not all form of semiconductor will be used to make chips. There are many different applications. Not every new find/discovery will be for making chips.
 

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correct. I really wish India should start investing research for DUV, EUV so that in next few years we have better negotiating powers with west for likes of ASML. I really appreciate china on this part - now they are researching on building a cyclotron based EUV - as for China unlike ASML - miniaturising EUV machines is not priority. We should also look for out of box solutions tailor made according to Indian abilities and needs.
 

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CDIL Breaks New Ground as India's First Silicon Carbide Chip Maker, Signs MoU with SCL Mohali
CDIL has also set up a state-of-the-art testing and reliability laboratory at its Mohali plant, ensuring that its semiconductor products meet the stringent standards stipulated by the Automotive Electronics Council
This expansion equips CDIL to produce auto-grade SiC devices, including SiC MOSFETs, Schottky Diodes, Rectifiers, Zeners, and TVS Diodes, to cater to both domestic and global markets. (Photo: News18)

This expansion equips CDIL to produce auto-grade SiC devices, including SiC MOSFETs, Schottky Diodes, Rectifiers, Zeners, and TVS Diodes, to cater to both domestic and global markets. (Photo: News18)
Continental Device India Pvt. Ltd. (CDIL), which has been a leading semiconductor company in India since 1964, has become the first Indian company to begin production of Silicon Carbide (SiC) components.
In a virtual ceremony, Union Minister of State for Electronics and Information Technology, Rajeev Chandrasekhar, inaugurated CDIL’s new Surface Mount Semiconductor Packaging Line at its Mohali plant.
This expansion equips CDIL to produce auto-grade SiC devices, including SiC MOSFETs, Schottky Diodes, Rectifiers, Zeners, and TVS Diodes, to cater to both domestic and global markets. The expansion of the assembly lines will raise the facility’s total annual capacity to 600 million units.
CDIL’s pilot production of SiC devices started in August, with the company already delivering its first batch to customers in domestic and international markets. With 59 years of legacy and a global customer base including in China, Japan, Hong Kong, Russia and the US, CDIL is poised to play a crucial role in India’s semiconductor industry as it embraces SiC technology and expands its manufacturing capabilities.
SiC devices are semiconductor devices made from the compound material silicon carbide. SiC has a number of advantages over traditional silicon semiconductors for power electronics applications, including:
• Higher breakdown voltage: SiC devices can withstand higher voltages than silicon devices, allowing them to be used in high-power applications.

• Faster switching speeds: SiC devices can switch on and off faster than silicon devices, which reduces switching losses and improves system efficiency.

• Lower on-resistance: SiC devices have lower on-resistance than silicon devices, which further reduces power losses and improves efficiency.

• Higher operating temperature: SiC devices can operate at higher temperatures than silicon devices, which allows them to be used in harsh environments.

SiC devices are being used in a growing range of applications, including:

• Electric vehicles: SiC devices are used in electric vehicles to improve the efficiency of the powertrain and reduce the size and weight of the vehicle.

• Solar inverters: SiC devices are used in solar inverters to improve the efficiency of the system and reduce the cost of solar energy.

• Industrial motor drives: SiC devices are used in industrial motor drives to improve the efficiency and performance of motors.

• Data centre power supplies: SiC devices are used in data centre power supplies to improve the efficiency of the power supply and reduce energy costs.

However, other applications for SiC devices include aerospace and defence, medical devices, telecommunications and smart grid.
CDIL’s efforts in packaging discrete semiconductor devices have been praised, and there are hopes for CDIL to consider establishing a discrete fab in the country in the future. An MoU has been signed between CDIL and the Semi-Conductor Laboratory (SCL) to strengthen indigenous chip manufacturing and packaging in India. CDIL has also set up a state-of-the-art testing and reliability laboratory at its Mohali plant, ensuring that its semiconductor products meet the stringent standards stipulated by the Automotive Electronics Council (AEC).
However, speaking at the launch, Amitesh Kumar Sinha, Joint Secretary at MeitY, stressed India’s focus on the semiconductor sector, which is projected to see a demand surge of around $110 billion by 2030. He said: “At MeitY, our objective is to modernise and commercialise SCL with the focus on making it an R&D hub for developing the semiconductor ecosystem in the country. It’s heartening to see CDIL taking the lead in the Packaging of discrete semiconductor devices. CDIL has the capability for R&D, Design, and Packaging. Earlier, they also had a fabrication facility. I hope CDIL will also consider setting up a discrete fab in the country by availing financial support under the Semicon India programme in future. As CDIL and SCL join hands for knowledge exchange, India can look forward to more indigenous chip manufacturing and packaging for India and the world in the upcoming future."
 

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China's Lithium dominance faces Indian challenge: Mass-scale Li-metal from recycled materials
Indian company Lohum has become the first non-Chinese and one of only five companies worldwide to successfully produce pure metallic Lithium on a large scale.
China's Lithium dominance faces Indian challenge: Mass-scale Li-metal from recycled materials


India's Lohum, a company in the sustainable energy and battery materials space, has become the first company outside of China and one of only five globally to successfully produce Lithium in its pure metallic form at a large scale. The company said that it has achieved this feat following two years of Research & Development.
It is worth noting that there have been other companies that have been in the Li-ion battery recycling powder space in India but Lohum will be the first company outside China to produce pure Lithium metal after recycling batteries.
Speaking to TOI Auto, Rajat Verma, Founder & CEO, informed about the company’s expansion plans. “In India, we plan to add our fourth facility within the Delhi NCR region, where the other three facilities are located. With the fourth facility in place, the company plans to have a combined capacity of recycling 20,000 tonnes of batteries each year.”
The company plans to expand its R&D and recycling capacities with the fifth plant. The new facility will allow the company to increase the headcount in R&D to 200 from the current 60. “Today, our customers and partners are all across the globe in the US, EU, Middle East, and Africa, and we are expanding our partnerships in each of these geographies.” he added.
Speaking about the sources that the company is getting batteries from, Verma said “We currently get source batteries from OEMs, Dealers, Fleet Players, and Insurance Companies”
While there’s still time for the recycled Lithium metal to be used in EVs, the company has adopted Chakiya village near Lucknow - to provide power through second-life batteries of MG Motors. These are charged by solar energy and are capable of providing electricity for about 4-6 hours.
It is interesting to note that the technology has implications for small-sized Lithium-air batteries, which could power an electric vehicle for approximately 1,000 kms on a single charge, thus eliminating any sort of range anxiety, which is currently posing a roadblock in the adoption of EVs.
The company said that its efficiency to recycle and refine Lithium metal from battery waste, ores, slag, and production scrap is set to effectively break China's monopoly on battery materials and cell technology.
Pure Lithium metal finds applications in a wide array of industries, including electric vehicle batteries, consumer electronics, aerospace, advanced metallurgy, medical devices, and industrial compounds.
 

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Electronics industry body seeks PLI scheme for non-semicondcutor sectors
Lall said that there is a need for separate PLI scheme for non-semicondcutor components due to large variation in the market for these components.
PLI scheme nodal agencies under watch as Centre readies for review


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Electronics industry body ELCINA has requested the government to come up with a production linked incentive scheme for non-semiconductor or computer chips sector which is dominated by imports, a senior official of the organisation said.
According to Electronic Industries Association of India (ELCINA) report, total electronic component market in the country was estimated to be around USD 39 billion, of which 68 per cent requirement was met through imports in 2021-22.
While speaking at 48th ELCINA Award Ceremony, organisation's new President Atul B Lall said that the government's scheme for devices has been hugely successful and the incentive scheme for semiconductor sector is seeing a lot of traction and some investments have started flowing in.
"Our humble submission and perseverance is going to be to do the same for non-semiconductor component sector also. For which we request government's intervention," said Lall, who is Vice Chairman & Managing Director of Dixon Technologies.
ELCINA is the oldest electronics industry body of the country established in 1967.
According to the industry body, mobile phones, consumer electronics and industrial electronics account for the major demand (85 per cent) for electronic components in India. This is followed by computer hardware.
ELCINA said that strategic electronics and lighting industry contribute to the balance of the market and industries like mobile phones, industrial electronics (due to the advent of electric vehicles) and strategic electronics are expected to witness substantial growth in the near future.
Lall said that there is a need for separate PLI scheme for non-semicondcutor components due to large variation in the market for these components.
"We can't treat this sector with one-size-fits-all kind of approach. Each sector has different financial market. It requires different treatment. We will be approaching government for its intervention," Lall said.
He said that the country needs some flag bearers like Apple in the mobile devices segment, and 40 years ago beginning of Maruti Suzuki led to auto-revolution in India.
"Same in the non-semiconductor space also, we need some very large investments," Lall said. The government has implemented "the Scheme for Promotion of Manufacturing of Electronic Components and Semiconductors" (SPECS) to help offset the disability for domestic manufacturing of electronic components and semiconductors in order to strengthen the electronics manufacturing ecosystem in the country.
After SPECS, the government separately announced India Semicon Programme with incentives to the tune of Rs 76,000 crore to attract investment in the computer chip segment.
Under India Semicon Programme, US-based computer memory chip maker Micron has started building its assembly and test plant in Gujarat and two more large proposals are under pipeline.
 

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PLIs schemes should only be utilized when there’s a large import deficit with that respective commodity or product or its ins strategic area such as semiconductors. Otherwise companies should be on their own and let market forces dictate. Otherwise it’s back to License Raj which we don’t want.
 

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other than the Micron plant in GJ, is there any chance of a semiconductor FAB actually breaking ground in India in the next 18-24 months? There’s been a lot of talk for years about this but somehow they make never seem to go anywhere despite pressure from the very top. Apparently lots of parties are interested but none actually seem to want to pull the trigger and put their money where their mouth is.

FOXCONN pulling out from their agreement with Vedenta still hurts

with the US and Europe hoovering up these FABs it seems like India is missing the boat especially as there becomes a surplus in semiconductor supply
 

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other than the Micron plant in GJ, is there any chance of a semiconductor FAB actually breaking ground in India in the next 18-24 months? There’s been a lot of talk for years about this but somehow they make never seem to go anywhere despite pressure from the very top. Apparently lots of parties are interested but none actually seem to want to pull the trigger and put their money where their mouth is.

FOXCONN pulling out from their agreement with Vedenta still hurts

with the US and Europe hoovering up these FABs it seems like India is missing the boat especially as there becomes a surplus in semiconductor supply
Foxconn has no experience in semicons, it was a proposal good for proposal only. The very fact that GoI managed to get an OSAT semicon plant in a few months is commendable. But a fab is still a bit far.

I've heard they're getting a new fab and a fab upgrade at SCL Mohali.
 

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other than the Micron plant in GJ, is there any chance of a semiconductor FAB actually breaking ground in India in the next 18-24 months? There’s been a lot of talk for years about this but somehow they make never seem to go anywhere despite pressure from the very top. Apparently lots of parties are interested but none actually seem to want to pull the trigger and put their money where their mouth is.

FOXCONN pulling out from their agreement with Vedenta still hurts

with the US and Europe hoovering up these FABs it seems like India is missing the boat especially as there becomes a surplus in semiconductor supply
No gora desh is going to set fab in india now when they have their lessons from PRC and even PRC was kept away from fabrication part aside from old nodes.we did had opportunity in Scamgress times but there priorities are different.
Coming to old nodes ,companies already have plants in S-E ASIA and elsewhere and setting fab is costly affair and desi companies does not have funds and also their is baniya mentality.

Only solution is to create national champion seeing we are starting from zero it will take time if consistent efforts are made.
 

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Guys, I have been wondering about something that I read on another forum. Semiconductor manufacturing requires a lot of fresh water (potable grade). How the heck would we manage that without massive desalination plants and gigantic pipeline networks flowing in from the southern states to the plant location?

Would this not affect the drinking water supply that is already under severe pressure?
 

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Guys, I have been wondering about something that I read on another forum. Semiconductor manufacturing requires a lot of fresh water (potable grade). How the heck would we manage that without massive desalination plants and gigantic pipeline networks flowing in from the southern states to the plant location?

Would this not affect the drinking water supply that is already under severe pressure?
Not even fresh potable grade. We are talking about Ultra pure water. Literally no trace of minerals or salts should be present in it. If you drink enough of it you will die because there are no minerals or salts, it acts as a sponge when it enters your body and soaks up all the electrolytes, salts, and minerals in your body.


I don't think this is a big deal. Intel has fabs even in a desert like Arizona. And Taiwan isn't blessed with rivers flowing through it's island. Desalination using solar power can reduce the costs in the long term.
 

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Krypton may invest $100 mn to set up a fabrication unit in Karnataka

Texas-based Krypton Solutions is likely to invest USD 100 million (Rs 832 crore) to set up a Printed Circuit Board fabrication unit in Karnataka, while semiconductor manufacturing company Texas Instruments has affirmed its commitment to R&D expansion in the state.
 

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Not even fresh potable grade. We are talking about Ultra pure water. Literally no trace of minerals or salts should be present in it. If you drink enough of it you will die because there are no minerals or salts, it acts as a sponge when it enters your body and soaks up all the electrolytes, salts, and minerals in your body.


I don't think this is a big deal. Intel has fabs even in a desert-like Arizona. And Taiwan isn't blessed with rivers flowing through its island. Desalination using solar power can reduce costs in the long term.
Taiwan and the US move really fast with these kinds of arrangements. The US will throw $$ from their printing machines and desalination plants will pop up in a day. Taiwan is an East Asian Democracy which is better than several authoritarian countries in terms of speed and efficiency.

I have a bad feeling that the regional governments have not planned well enough and we are likely to face water issues in the regions setting up the plants. Remember water management is a weakness in our country and has been so for a long, long time, despite the efforts of our PM.
 

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