WolfPack86
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India, US Airborne Operation from CH-47 Chinook Yudh Abhyas Exercise
Joint Indian and American Chinook Jump 15 May 2013 (YUDH ABHYAS 2013)do you hv video of this picture...i mean video footage
I had the same thought but it's most likely because the first payment to Boeing wasn't made until around March 2016 so first deliveries won't commence until March 2019 (was meant to be Sept 2018).hope i am not wrong but September 2015, contract was signed.
in 36 months delivery is to begin that means September 2018.
and in 48 months deliveries to be completed so that means September 2019.
As per latest tweet, it says March 2020, is there a delay of 6 months??
Can't wait to see 15 of these bad boys lined up in Chandigarh.
Here’s another picture of the IAF’s first CH-47F right before it’s first flight last week at Mesa, Arizona. Crown & tailcone made in India by @TataCompanies.
So you admit, that it can't land vertically in mountain or hill areas. It is a fixed wing aircraft and needs much larger landing and take off area than any helicopter, therfore is no alternative to the MI 26.C17s can land in a very short dirt roads
You want me to testify that C17 cannot land vertically?? Isn't that obvious? Can you make your point without rigmarole?More appropriate thread:
So you admit, that it can't land vertically in mountain or hill areas. It is a fixed wing aircraft and needs much larger landing and take off area than any helicopter, therfore is no alternative to the MI 26.
The fact remains, that this is not possible in IAF with the Ch47 anymore:
Well if that's obvious, you shouldn't have problems with admitting that the Ch47 can't do the same and that IAF loses that capability now. No point in bringing up the C17.You want me to testify that C17 cannot land vertically?? Isn't that obvious?
Of course, that's why most of the capabilities CH47 fanboys advertise by looking at it's operations in US/NATO forces hardly has any value for IAF. IAF has different operational needs and different operational environments, than most western forces. Their priority is heavy lifting, not special ops, but as I said before, the CH47 is the better choice when it comes to reliability and after sale support. So IAF will have more heavy lift helicopters available at all times, just not with the same capability as they used they have.Before plunking billions of dollars into capital purchases IAF would have determined what operational aspects are MOST important; and what looks sexy to fanboys that they don't need to waste their precious capital outlay on.
For US special ops they have a different version called MH 47G, there are many things MH47 can do that a normal CH 47 can't because of different equipment used in it.Well if that's obvious, you shouldn't have problems with admitting that the Ch47 can't do the same and that IAF loses that capability now. No point in bringing up the C17.
Of course, that's why most of the capabilities CH47 fanboys advertise by looking at it's operations in US/NATO forces hardly has any value for IAF. IAF has different operational needs and different operational environments, than most western forces. Their priority is heavy lifting, not special ops, but as I said before, the CH47 is the better choice when it comes to reliability and after sale support. So IAF will have more heavy lift helicopters available at all times, just not with the same capability as they used they have.
It can get closer, but can't carry the same loads, neither externally and by far not internally and that is the point!Heavy lifting in US is still done by CH 47, it can do utility operation much closer to combat zone then MI26 with little less lifting capability again there are much more benefits of using CH47 compared to MI26.
So, at least it's pretty clear that you don't envision a major hole in the combat ops, but primarily in the disaster relief area.It can get closer, but can't carry the same loads, neither externally and by far not internally and that is the point!
And when you don't know how important disaster relief is for IAF, you clearly have no idea about their operations.
That's your assumption not mine, since I don't just state my personal opinion on how IAF should use these aircrafts, but Base it on the fact on what IAF used the Mi 26 so far!So, at least it's pretty clear that you don't envision a major hole in the combat ops, but primarily in the disaster relief area.
And this proves, that you have no idea about IAFs operations!So In all fairness, Indian disaster management has by and large been pathetic