India yet to tap diaspora well, unlike China

[GaudaNaresh]

And that's bad.

Enjoy your slavery if you think otherwise.

You absolute retard, its not slavery under every single goddamn ethnos and as an Indian, i do not mind the idea of being vassals to motherland. Thats the point. We ALSO want an Indosphere and thats how you get it,mr smartypants.

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

Multiple citizenship - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Am I to believe that Venezuela is an Anglo vassal? It allows dual citizenship.
Am I to believe that Cambodia is an Anglo vassal? It allows dual citizenship.
Am I to believe that France is an Anglo vassal? It allows dual citizenship.
Am I to believe that Russia is an Anglo vassal? It allows second citizenship.

most people here including me don't have enough faith in the percentage of people who will use this for the benefit of the motherland. unlike in china and russia where the percentage of people who will be traitors or just waste it is low, in india, there can be many factions who would just exploit it, waste it and achieve nothing productive for the country or even harm india in return from abroad. no hard feelings. just being honest.

we need an internal defacto and dejure system to first take care of every manner of traitor internally in our country first in order to then facilitate the dual citizenship plan.

 

[neutrondrake]

Multiple citizenship - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Am I to believe that Venezuela is an Anglo vassal? It allows dual citizenship.
Am I to believe that Cambodia is an Anglo vassal? It allows dual citizenship.
Am I to believe that France is an Anglo vassal? It allows dual citizenship.
Am I to believe that Russia is an Anglo vassal? It allows second citizenship.

1 & 2 used to be Russian vassals.

Yes to the third, Btw. It also has it's sub imperial vassals that it's slowly losing control over.

Russia itself is an imperial power that vassalises others, Genius.

Realism is Absolute. Your attempts to portray reality as absurd will only end in your Shock and bafflement.

 

[neutrondrake]

We ALSO want an Indosphere

Where is the money for that?

Are you going to advocate for us Floating 15 fucking carriers in the near future too, since the Americans have some right now?

Clearly I am smarter than you if you can't distinguish between how Hegemony will look like, and how to actually get there. Keep aping, that's all you are good for.

we need an internal defacto and dejure system to first take care of every manner of traitor internally in our country first in order to then facilitate the dual citizenship plan.

Here, Someone who actually gets it.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Where is the money for that?

You don't need money to colonise and demographically turn a nation into your culture's orbit.

Are you going to advocate for us Floating 15 fucking carriers in the near future too, since the Americans have some right now?

False equivalency. I am in favour of indosphere. For that, we need immigration to foreign lands & strong legal ties back to motherland. That is irrelevant re: having an aggressive or passive posture in the world.

Clearly I am smarter than you if you can't distinguish between how Hegemony will look like, and how to actually get there. Keep aping, that's all you are good for.

Spoken like a true retard, who thinks that Canada having the same relationship with India as it did/does with UK is a bad thing. Retard.

Here, Someone who actually gets it.

And i get that too, it doesn't contradict what i said either, kiddo.

 

[Nazaria e Bakistan]

1 & 2 used to be Russian vassals.

Yes to the third, Btw. It also has it's sub imperial vassals that it's slowly losing control over.

Russia itself is an imperial power that vassalises others, Genius.

Realism is Absolute. Your attempts to portray reality as absurd will only end in your Shock and bafflement.

Russian vassal? LOL! HAHAHAHA!

You know a person can have Russian citizenship and American citizenship at the same time, so this entire vassal bullshit goes out of the window.

Who is deciding whose foreign policy if neither Russia nor America restrict their nationals from becoming citizens of their enemies?

You are uninformed and delusional.

 

[neutrondrake]

I am in favour of indosphere.

You are in favor of illiterate impractical larping about the indosphere. There is a difference.

Canada having the same relationship with India as it did/does with UK is a bad thing.

It is. You are too stupid to comprehend why.

You don't need money to colonise and demographically turn a nation into your culture's orbit.

Money is a abstraction of resources, Illiterate. Everything needs resources, beyond the brute human numbers you seek to throw at objects and your weird fetishist obsession with enacting mass atrocities.

 

[neutrondrake]

Who is deciding whose foreign policy if neither Russia nor America restrict their nationals from becoming citizens of their enemies?

Their respective Intelligence agencies do, Or at least try their level best, in both imposing offensive policy and defensive maintenance of interest by mass information gathering.

Laughing about ex Socialist states being vassals and protectorates of USSR once upon a time isn't exactly a fine display of your intellect and knowledge my dude.

Realism Is absolute.

 

[Nazaria e Bakistan]

most people here including me don't have enough faith in the percentage of people who will use this for the benefit of the motherland. unlike in china and russia where the percentage of people who will be traitors or just waste it is low, in india, there can be many factions who would just exploit it, waste it and achieve nothing productive for the country or even harm india in return from abroad. no hard feelings. just being honest.

we need an internal defacto and dejure system to first take care of every manner of traitor internally in our country first in order to then facilitate the dual citizenship plan.

What the heck does this have to do with dual citizens?

Those who want to harm India are not going to be anyways deterred by some stupid law. Bangladeshis live in India and possess Aadhar, Passport and what not. It only harms law abiding people who want to operate legally.

This is VERY VERY similar to situation during license raj. Government was very concerned that if given liberty, the industrialists etc will loot common people, corner markets and what not. There used to be 10 years waiting list to buy a scooter during those times. After liberalization of 90s if anything ownership of resources by common people has increased. The only one who were harmed by end of license raj were touts, middle men, beaurocrats etc. Those who used to take massive bribes.

This entire situation of citizenship is same: beaurocrats thinking that they are protecting their turf. Its ... nothing but they are harming law abiding people by kicking them out of India meanwhile massive amount of illegals are coming in to the country.

Remember, Kasab did not take any visa. Neither do infiltrators. Nor any bagladeshis.

Here is the kicker: A person can acquire citizenship of Australia or Canada and unless the person volunteerily tells Indian government about this, they have no way of even finding out.

 

[neutrondrake]

What the heck does this have to do with dual citizens?

/thread

I hope CIA is filled with Brilliant Tacticians like you one day.

 

[Nazaria e Bakistan]

Their respective Intelligence agencies do, Or at least try their level best, in both imposing offensive policy and defensive maintenance of interest by mass information gathering.

The question is this : If Russia and USA do not care if their citizens take each other's second citizenship, why does India have to care so much?

And how do NOT having dual citizens stop foreign intelligence agencies? Remember, Bangladeshis routinely come to India and acquire all sorts of documents including birth certificates and passports in India without Indian agencies doing anything to stop them.

All these restrictions only hurt people following law, foreign intelligence agencies just laugh at it. Kasab did not bother about this. Chakma did not. Rohingyas did not. Only law abiding former citizens do.

 

[neutrondrake]

If Russia and USA do not care if their citizens take each other's second citizenship, why does India have to care so much?

Because they are stronger than us Institutionally. More experienced, more resource intensive and with more driven leadership in this precise area than what we have right now.

You are a jackal aping a tiger and burning stripes onto itself thinking that's the secret. You want to be a tiger? Strengthen your muscles first and stop subscribing to illiterate lolbertarian screeds about freedumbs.

, Bangladeshis routinely come to India and acquire all sorts of documents including birth certificates and passports in India without Indian agencies doing anything to stop them.

Waah, Sirji, waht a excellente argument. We already suck so let's suck some more! let's all ascend the ladder of mediocrity together.

Disgusting.

 

[Nazaria e Bakistan]

/thread

I hope CIA is filled with Brilliant Tacticians like you one day.

LOL what a dunce!

CIA wants to do something? It has Raul Vinchi in the palm of its hand. It does not need dual citizens. How hard it is to compromise a high ranking official in India? Or heck, even foreign ministry folks?

Want to know something really funny? In 50s and 60s Indian military matters including appointments, promotion of generals and their dissatifcation were reaching to USA without any spies.

How? Some very high ranking official in MoD was neighbour of British ambassador. After few pegs, he used to cry and tell everything.

Its a joke that beaurocrats of India are playing on common folks!

CIA will compromise these beaurocrats, it does not need to play a very long game.

I mean scientists in DRDO leak information for promise of certain "favours" from fairer sex on facebook.

 

[Nazaria e Bakistan]

Because they are stronger than us Institutionally. More experienced, more resource intensive and with more driven leadership in this precise area than what we have right now.

You are a jackal aping a tiger and burning stripes onto itself thinking that's the secret. You want to be a tiger? Strengthen your muscles first and stop subscribing to illiterate lolbertarian screeds about freedumbs.

So lets see, India is a "special snow flake" which will break due to evil dual citizens. LOL!

I only see the same arguments that were yapped for license raj. "We are weak! Foreigners will come and loot us! Farmers will starve!" and so on. We all know how that went.

 

[neutrondrake]

So lets see, India is a "special snow flake" which will break due to evil dual citizens. LOL!

Is that really the best reading comprehension you are capable of? I would be happier even if you were just deliberately pretending to be mentally lacking.

Well, at least you aren't a budding mass murderer like the other guy, So there's that I guess.

 

[Nazaria e Bakistan]

Waah, Sirji, waht a excellente argument. We already suck so let's suck some more! let's all ascend the ladder of mediocrity together.

No you idiot!

We suck because we are NOT fixing what is broken but breaking what is actually helpful.

Its like putting cast on your left foot to set broken bone in right foot.

Thats what is happening.

You are keeping out and encouraging successful law abiding people to take their money in India away meanwhile doing nothing to fix the real problem: Rohingya infiltration, Bangladeshi infiltration, our national identity database that is hacked so easily and lack of any systems to prevent bribes.

 

[Nazaria e Bakistan]

Is that really the best reading comprehension you are capable of? I would be happier even if you were just deliberately pretending to be mentally lacking.

Well, at least you aren't a budding mass murderer like the other guy, So there's that I guess.

No my dear, it is adequate argument for someone like you who know nothing and tries to pretend as if he knows something.

 

[neutrondrake]

No my dear, it is adequate argument for someone like you who know nothing and tries to pretend as if he knows something.

No. The only problem is that your lack of comprehension is at an institutional level. It cannot be fixed in conversations, You need to gain a wider scope of reality to perceive why exactly your arguments are stupid.

It's not just me, there is no one who can concisely explain to you every cognitive error you made in reaching such thoughts without you explicitly comprehending that you must be wrong and there should be a better understanding. How will you gain this comprehension without expanding your mind?

Conversations are a two way street, even for completely pedestrian ideas such as these.

Its like putting cast on your left foot to set broken bone in right foot.

You know neither the Foot nor the hand, let alone distinguish between their right and left variants.

 

[Nazaria e Bakistan]

No. The only problem is that your lack of comprehension is at an institutional level.

LOL!
Can anyone EVEN parse what this idiot means to say?

 

[karn]

Dual citizenship will never happen in India . Dual citizenship is literally a case of having one's cake and eating it too . Dual citizenship works for small countries that cannot pool enough man power to achieve anything not us.
And if anyone else needs any real life example of why dual citizenship is retarded is the case of paki dual citizens .
And any false equivalence of illegal immigrants getting aadhar need to remember that aadhar " a statement of identity not nationality ".