India US Relations

[Azaad]

4 thousand years of history mean fuck all when they can ungli 15 countries at once and get away with it.
Also Phillipines didn't """"accept"""" any US offer, the US parachuted in Marcos Jr and regime changed Duterte away via election, it has been a (((US Ally Slave))) since forever, and only Duterte was trying monkey balancing.

Similar to the Padosi Mulq and it's kaali-daal applying Kaptaan-saab being friendly with Russia.

That ungli as you put it is from the playbook of Mao - the great helmsman who pioneered the madman theory when he took on the might of the existing super powers of the day by daring them to unleash their WMD, something which unnerved the then leadership of Truman & Brezhnev respectively who chose to ignore him pursuing conventional warfare.

He got away with it with a lot of pariah nations like DPRK, Paxtan & Iran now invoking the same philosophy. Now if he could get away with tangling with the super powers of the day you think he'd care a damn about confronting lesser powers in his neighborhood. He didn't & managed to get his way partially or completely with them.

His successors in the CCP think this is a golden strategy to emulate thanks to the enormous success it got them the first time around when they were a distinctly second or even a third rate power yet managed to get their way by punching way above their weight which is why we are here.

As far as Philippines's disenchantment with China is concerned it goes back to the same tactics China's now employing with lesser intensity resulting in the Chinese seizing the Scarborough shoals prompting then President Aquino's to approach UNCLOS getting a ruling in Philippines's favor against China which the latter refused to respect.

He demitted office on completion of his term to Duterte who tried mollycoddlling China. You know the rest.

P. S - I don't lay much store in your accusations of the US rigging the elections in Marcos's favor. Duterte completed his term. Marcos stood for the elections & won. Had there been credibility to these allegations you're levelling there'd be a storm in the Philippines. There's none & frankly this is the first time I'm hearing of it.

 

[hurrians]

US trying to destabilize situation in India ahead of general election — Russian diplomat

US trying to destabilize situation in India ahead of general election — Russian diplomat

The general election being held in the country from April to June will be the largest voting ever taking place in the world with 968 million registered voters, 14 million election commission employees, and 1.2 million polling booths

tass.com

 

[jai jaganath]

A context to concurrent discussion wrt Stryker

 

[shade]

A context to concurrent discussion wrt Stryker

Lessons won't be learnt till we lose a war badly.
Ofc (((trusted foreign suppliers))) fucking us over by not providing us maal will be a part of this.

 

[Hari Sud]

Global turmoil with the U.S. at the forefront.

The turbulence in the USA has just begun, attributed to President Biden and the Democrats. The judiciary grapples with the Trump trial, Congress faces instability with three changes in the speaker in less than six months, and the presidential power wavers in its support for either Israel or HAMAS. Additionally, the US finds itself entangled in the Ukraine conflict, potentially losing focus. Echoes of the sixties turmoil reverberate in university campuses, where student bodies seem uncontrollable. These events have caused rifts with allies and a loss of support from friends due to the ongoing turmoil in America.

The Syrian/Iraq war provided no respite before the U.S. initiated the conflict in Ukraine. Rather than a direct Russian invasion, the war stemmed from shrewd manipulation, coaxing Ukraine towards NATO. It seems unlikely that this conflict will conclude favorably for American interests. Nevertheless, Ukraine has endured significant losses in territory, manpower, and infrastructure.

As the Ukrainian conflict raged, HAMAS/Palestinians emerged from hiding, perpetrating a devastating attack, claiming the lives of 1300 Israeli civilians and holding 250 hostage. Israel reluctantly engaged in war against HAMAS, as America hesitated in choosing sides, ultimately leading to the Israeli invasion of Gaza. Internally, dissent brewed, with left-leaning Americans and Palestinians within the U.S. condemning the invasion. What began in academia has now permeated the broader populace, leaving many questioning allegiances.

Continued American military aid to both Ukraine and Israel prolongs these conflicts until exhaustion sets in. The blame for igniting these needless hostilities as proxies falls squarely on America, resulting in widespread death and destruction.

Meanwhile, China eyes the chaos in America as an opportunity, contemplating a swift takeover of Taiwan and expulsion of American presence in the Pacific. Yet, uncertainty clouds their plans, wary of America's formidable military prowess, particularly its ability to cripple Chinese coastal defenses and naval forces.

A potential conflict involving China, Taiwan, and America threatens to disrupt the trillion-dollar trade ties China enjoys with American businesses. The irreversible loss of commercial opportunities, coupled with hefty military expenditures, presents a dire predicament for China, delaying their invasion of Taiwan.

Elsewhere, the war-torn landscapes of Syria and Iraq breed a new strain of Islamic terrorism akin to Al Qaeda, yet largely overlooked by mainland America due to its lack of direct impact.

In the midst of these complex conflicts, President Biden's America finds itself embroiled in battles across multiple fronts, struggling to assert dominance in Ukraine while grappling with the ambiguities of the Israel-HAMAS conflict. Balancing delicate diplomacy with China to prevent a Taiwan invasion proves an arduous task, with American officials already engaging in high-level talks to dissuade Chinese aggression, albeit with uncertain outcomes.

In a world engulfed by turmoil, America finds itself unwittingly or deliberately entangled in the tumultuous affairs unfolding across the globe.

 

[hurrians]

US trying to destabilize situation in India ahead of general election — Russian diplomat

US trying to destabilize situation in India ahead of general election — Russian diplomat

The general election being held in the country from April to June will be the largest voting ever taking place in the world with 968 million registered voters, 14 million election commission employees, and 1.2 million polling booths

tass.com

US Ambassador Garcetti dismisses concerns about democracy in India

US Ambassador to India Eric Garcetti expressed confidence in India's democracy, stating that it will remain vibrant with free and fair elections. He highlighted certain aspects of Indian democracy, such as the effort to ensure voting accessibility, where people go to great lengths to vote, even...

m.economictimes.com

 

[Hari Sud]

Who was behind the postponement of Tesla Musk’s projected visit to India recently at the last minute. Instead he chose to visit China and loose his shirt because China will copy everything and build a half price cars. His self drive technology is not making any headway in the West; China welcomed it in its crowded roads and half price market. Musk never understood that why he is welcomed by the Chinese. It was the US state Department which had instrumented the postponement but also copy opportunity to the Chinese.

Now he has lost triple fold…….1) Chinese will copy everything and Musk won’t be able to stop that……2) Musk lost a welcoming opportunity in India to build technologically superior cars……..3) The Starlink internet connecting satellite system, he has been selling to India for years, goes back to dustbin.

Hence Musk has lost more than what he gained in China visit…….. foolish him and US State Department.

 

[DingDong]

The true reason is Paki is always their slave and they are always looking to contain India or make it bend the knee via Pakistan.
Besides the war in terror was endless and very profitable for the US MIC as long as it lasted, but the Ukraine war is an inifnitely better money spinner.

Waise even the Chinkus and Japaneez have over 9000 gods, yet they were in bed with them

Goras are an inherent godless society today, this muh monotheism would be correct 150 years ago

Your statement about the Goras being godless is true in the context of certain parts of Europe (mostly Nordic). The USA is very different, they take Christianity, the English language and their European ancestry very seriously.

Japan is a client state of the US, while China was an alliance of convenience during the cold war era.

Who was behind the postponement of Tesla Musk’s projected visit to India recently at the last minute. Instead he chose to visit China and loose his shirt because China will copy everything and build a half price cars. His self drive technology is not making any headway in the West; China welcomed it in its crowded roads and half price market. Musk never understood that why he is welcomed by the Chinese. It was the US state Department which had instrumented the postponement but also copy opportunity to the Chinese.

Now he has lost triple fold…….1) Chinese will copy everything and Musk won’t be able to stop that……2) Musk lost a welcoming opportunity in India to build technologically superior cars……..3) The Starlink internet connecting satellite system, he has been selling to India for years, goes back to dustbin.

Hence Musk has lost more than what he gained in China visit…….. foolish him and US State Department.

Tesla is a bubble, it will burst as soon as the US government stops the subsidies. May be that is the concern that brought Musk to China, he is trying to become profitable.

 

[shade]

Your statement about the Goras being godless is true in the context of certain parts of Europe (mostly Nordic). The USA is very different, they take Christianity, the English language and their European ancestry very seriously.

Japan is a client state of the US, while China was an alliance of convenience during the cold war era.



Tesla is a bubble, it will burst as soon as the US government stops the subsidies. May be that is the concern that brought Musk to China, he is trying to become profitable.

Elites of US are the reason the no-dic countries are godless today.
The bible-thumping, Israel-worshipping and cousin-fucking masses of America do not hold any power, it is the godless and satanic elites who do.

The goober from Arkansas may call you a street shitter but it is the State Department Nolund who will wink-nudge Elon to go to China and do mujra infront of Xi instead of investing in India

 

[Indrajit]

A Conversation with Eric Garcetti

The 2024 Conference on Diversity in International Affairs is a collaborative effort by the Council on Foreign Relations, the Global Access Pipeline, and the ...

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[ezsasa]

two in a row, peculiar thing is that panelists managed to have an entire conversation on India without taking the name of current PM or EAM even once. even sonia gandhi and vajpayee got one honorary mention each but not modi.

not sure what was the purpose of this discussion..

one possibility could be that this is for state side messaging to tell their own people to bring down the temperature on "democracy in danger" India bashing from within U.S ...
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Strengthening Trust With India: Implications Of The 2008 US-India Civil Nuclear Agreement

 

[Crazywithmath]

Confirmation from the horse's mouth (as if there was ever a doubt);

 

[shade]

two in a row, peculiar thing is that panelists managed to have an entire conversation on India without taking the name of current PM or EAM even once. even sonia gandhi and vajpayee got one honorary mention each but not modi.

not sure what was the purpose of this discussion..

one possibility could be that this is for state side messaging to tell their own people to bring down the temperature on "democracy in danger" India bashing from within U.S ...
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Strengthening Trust With India: Implications Of The 2008 US-India Civil Nuclear Agreement

This looks like a climbdown from "We need to overthrow Putin" to "W-we s-should wait till Putin dies, h-he hasn't appointed a s-successor"

 

[Freedom Thru Firepower]

Americ*nt state dept whining over the Chabahar contract & the usual threat of economic terrorism.

GoI should not back down, call their bluff & give standing ovation of middle finger to these worthless pigs.

OTOH this bloated balloon freak have such a punchable face, don't know why.

 

[Master Chief]

Looks like Americ*nts/Five c*nts roped in Former Army chief Naravane for influence operations..
Categorizing Russia as an adversarial power..Hmm..

India must avoid confrontation with Five Eyes. It's an important counterterrorism ally

India and Five Eyes diverge on a number of issues such as strategic autonomy and data privacy. But by focusing on areas of convergence, they can better address common challenges.

theprint.in

 

[Psacha1234]

That’s quite a video by Garcetti.
Despite all the pain points like Pannun and the election interference, there was also some good progress made.
It remains to be seen if all these pain points will be put in the back burner after Jun 4.

 

[Psacha1234]

Americ*nt state dept whining over the Chabahar contract & the usual threat of economic terrorism.

GoI should not back down, call their bluff & give standing ovation of middle finger to these worthless pigs.

OTOH this bloated balloon freak have such a punchable face, don't know why.

Not a fan of his statement at all. But what else is a spokesperson expected to say other than reiterate the current sanctions policy on Iran? Surely he can’t say that ‘we encourage this deal’.

I would be worried if US really ends up sanctioning India which I don’t think it would going into elections amidst 2 wars and domestic issues.
I think this is just lip service and I don’t think we would anyway backdown on this, sanctions or no.
So overall wouldn’t read too much into this.

Plus this is not some new deal and has been in the works for several years, so I wonder if this qualifies for a waiver?

 

[Cheran]

Confirmation from the horse's mouth (as if there was ever a doubt);

Is the shart viceroy saying that the decision to purchase & stick to purchasing Russian oil was de facto taken in US? If so, this is election interference since.

This is contrary to facts as well. They have, several times wanted India to stop Russian purchases .

Looks like Americ*nts/Five c*nts roped in Former Army chief Naravane for influence operations..
Categorizing Russia as an adversarial power..Hmm..

India must avoid confrontation with Five Eyes. It's an important counterterrorism ally

India and Five Eyes diverge on a number of issues such as strategic autonomy and data privacy. But by focusing on areas of convergence, they can better address common challenges.

theprint.in

This is a message from Five Asses to GOI that there "high ranking serving or otherwise" people in your own establishment that are in contrary to the current policy.

It is highly unfortunate that the word "adversarial power" which is an American term has been used.

 

[Psacha1234]

Not a fan of his statement at all. But what else is a spokesperson expected to say other than reiterate the current sanctions policy on Iran? Surely he can’t say that ‘we encourage this deal’.

I would be worried if US really ends up sanctioning India which I don’t think it would going into elections amidst 2 wars and domestic issues.
I think this is just lip service and I don’t think we would anyway backdown on this, sanctions or no.
So overall wouldn’t read too much into this.

Plus this is not some new deal and has been in the works for several years, so I wonder if this qualifies for a waiver?

Case in point,

 

[Jimih]

This is a message from Five Asses to GOI that there "high ranking serving or otherwise" people in your own establishment that are in contrary to the current policy.

It is highly unfortunate that the word "adversarial power" which is an American term has been used.

Not sure about the 'not to confront with the 5-eyes' bit by the former COAS.

The Shekhar Gupta owned Print may have added some masala from itself too. Everyone knows the "coup" story.