India Launched Surgical Strikes Across LoC: DGMO 29/09/2016

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As we predicted earlier Pakis retaliation came in Poonch area where their positions are strong.

Yesterday Capt Abhimanyu Raj Rif. Wounded by Paki sniper.


Paki snipers picking our troops with ease. Seems SVD is not enough for counter sniping tactics and Vidhwansak is too heavy and too limited in numbers.

So maybe Army should retalite with zu 23, L 70 and even ATGM against their positions.
There is a open tender for a small number of galil sniper rifles + ammo by northern command and over one lakh rounds of 20 mm ammo for Denel AMR.

Could the both be related? Maybe preparation for sniper vs sniper scenario?
 

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There is a open tender for a small number of galil sniper rifles + ammo by northern command and over one lakh rounds of 20 mm ammo for Denel AMR.

Could the both be related? Maybe preparation for sniper vs sniper scenario?
Small number then it's for SF not regular infantry their Galatz already being replaced by newer variant.
 

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Pak analyst confirms India's surgical strikes, says Pakistan itself to blame

Munir Saami
HIGHLIGHTS

  • Pakistani analyst confirms surgical strikes by Indian army in PoK.
  • Pakistan is to be blamed for cross LoC operation by India, said Munir Saami.
  • There is little support for Pakistan among international community, Saami said.
Noted Pakistani political analyst Munir Saami has confirmed that India carried out surgical strikes in PoK. In an interview to a Canadian news channel, Saami said that denial by Islamabad is meaningless in this context.
Saami said, "If they (Pakistani establishment) admit to the surgical strikes carried out by India, it would be difficult for them to explain the situation to the people of Pakistan."
"How will they tell the people that Indian army crossed the LoC? It's like a bone stuck in their throat. They want to take it out, but it's difficult for them to do so and that's why they are saying that the surgical strikes did not take place," Saami told the news channel.
He further said, "Whatever happened at the LoC was unprecedented. India had never carried out an incursion into Pakistani areas. If India starts doing it regularly, it would exhaust Pakistan."
READ: Inside story of Indian Army's daring surgical strikes against Pakistan
'WE HAVE LOST FOUR WARS'

Saami sounded a note caution for the government of Pakistan. He said that Pakistan had already lost four wars with India. "If there is another war, Pakistan will be responsible for this. The two nations should desist from war as it would be detrimental to both," he said in his interview.
The noted analyst rejected the suggestion that Pakistan was a big nation. "I don't agree with the suggestion that Pakistan is a big country. It's not. It's a small nation in all aspects."
READ: Crossing a red line
"This small nation is playing a gamble in Kashmir. It played four such gambles in the form of wars and lost in every war," Saami said before adding, "We lost in 1948, 1965, 1971 and also had to pull back in Kargil."
Pakistan does not play gamble with its own money, rather it borrows money for this, Saami lamented.

Noted Pakistani analyst Munir Saami during his interview with a Canadian news channel.
LOST OPPORTUNITY FOR PAKISTAN

According to Saami, Pakistan was in a habit of losing opportunity to normalise relationship with India.
"India has initiated peace process several times, be it during Vajpayee's regime or recently when Modi-Nawaz held talks. But, every single Pakistan puts the obstacle of Kashmir. Look at the sequence of events, it is Pakistan, which raised the issue time and again," Saami said.
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'MODI HAS POPULAR SUPPORT'
In his interview, Saaimi said that it was not business as usual with India now. Unlike earlier regimes, India looks aggressive under Prime Minister Narendra Modi, he said.
"Modi has tremendous support of his people. Earlier, India talked about peace only. (Pakistan supported terror outfits) would enter and bomb places in India. Now, they are saying we not soft anymore," he said.
READ: Surgical strikes in PoK: How Indian para commandos killed 50 terrorists, hit 7 camps
According to Saami, India's patience has waned out on the account of continued terror attacks launched from across the border. He said, "What happened (the surgical strikes) this time was due to the fact that India suffered in Mumbai, Pathankot and Uri."
"We started this story (of cross-border terrorism) and now we want the world to support us. Unfortunately, the world is not supporting Pakistan," Saami candidly said.
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Let's not create the artificial sense of urgency. This expectation creates undue pressure on people on the ground.

Strategy to starve and tire out bottled up terrorists is a sound one.

Furthermore, We don't know if the forces on ground had the equipment and training to storm the compound.
No, better strategy would be to continue all non offensive measure and carry out surgical strikes in between. One more thing what we can do is to wipe out one pakistani military station in air attack and declare that they were training terrorist to infiltrate in India. one more way is to strike fear in the mind of Pakistani generals. Give some shoulder fire missiles and anti tank missiles to FATA fighters and train baluchs to conduct similar surgical strikes on Pakistani army in Baluchistan and FATA. Porki army must live in fear all the time.
 
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That's why Drone's data is considered classified and a treasure for intel agencies and Hackers. This is same Heron TP India is getting from Israel.

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Images: Laura Poitras

British and American spies collected live video from Israeli drones as part of a classified program code-named “Anarchist,” which operated from a mountaintop listening post on the Mediterranean island of Cyprus. Among the files provided by former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden are a series of “snapshots” from Israeli drone feeds, which offer a rare glimpse at the closely guarded secret of Israel’s drone fleet.

The images presented here show several different types of unmanned planes, including what appear to be rare public images of Israeli drones carrying missiles. Although Israeli drone strikes have been widely reported, officially the government refuses to confirm the use of armed drones. (Neither NSA, GCHQ, nor the Israel Defense Forces provided comment for this story.)

For more details, read our accompanying story.

These and other images from Anarchist will be on view as part of Intercept co-founder Laura Poitras’ solo exhibition at the Whitney Museum of American Art in New York. The exhibition,Astro Noise, opens February 5.


On January 28, 2010, GCHQ analysts on Cyprus captured six minutes of video from what appears to be a Heron TP, a giant drone manufactured by the state-owned Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI).

In this snapshot still from the video, a large missile-shaped object is clearly visible on the left side. A GCHQ report mentions “regular collects of Heron TP carrying weapons” in 2009. A very similar image, likely from the same intercept, is named “Heron_TP_Payload.” The video is shot from the right-hand rear vertical stabilizer of the TP (this open-source videooffers a similar viewpoint).

Drone experts consulted byTheIntercept confirmed that the image shows a Heron TP.

“It certainly looks like the missile-shaped objects are weapons,” said Bill Sweetman, an editor at Aviation Week. “The bodies appear to have cruciform tail fins. The distortion makes it a bit hard to tell size, but — assuming they are bombs — these are definitely less than 500-pound class.” He added that because the Heron-TP is an Israeli strategic intelligence system, the objects could be decoys, used to “force a response from Iran’s air defenses, while the UAV orbits and hoovers up signals.”


This is another image taken from a Heron TP, intercepted on February 9, 2010. The Heron TP or Eitan (meaning “strong” or “steadfast”) has an 85-foot wingspan, can carry a 1-ton load, and can stay aloft for up to 36 hours. It has been described in the press as “the drone that can reach Iran.”

The image is blurred, but objects appear to be mounted under the wings. The GCHQ file notes that the signal was “too poor to process” further.


Here is an IAI Heron, intercepted on April 26, 2009. “This is the standard IAI Heron, which can be recognized by the shape of the satellite communications radome,” said Sweetman.

Former U.S. drone pilots interviewed for this story told The Intercept that this view, showing the body of the aircraft, was a way of checking for ice or other problems.

This particular Heron seems to be modified to carry arms or other wing-mounted equipment such as sensors, but given the quality of the image, it is not entirely clear.


This is an IAI Searcher MK III, according to Sweetman. The Searcher was developed in the 1980s, but is still used by the Israel Defense Forces and by a number of other countries.


This image was intercepted early on the morning of January 7, 2010. Based on the display markings, like the dial in the upper right-hand corner, it appears to be from a drone made by the company Aeronautics. (Thisvideo from the manufacturer shows a similar view.) The image indicates that this model was equipped with Forward-Looking Infrared (FLIR) camera.

Unlike other Anarchist snapshots identified byTheIntercept, the video angles downward and appears to show a view of buildings below.

A GCHQ document from 2010 reported that analysts on Cyprus had collected signals from Aeronautics’Aerostar Tactical, a medium-sized drone that has been used by the Israeli military since 2000, and sold to countries from Poland toThailand.


This blurred image was recorded on August 25, 2009, the same day that news agencies reported that the IDFbombed a smuggler tunnel in Gaza, killing three Palestinians inside. According to an Anarchist document, the signal was “too poor to process” further.
 
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Here is an IAI Heron, intercepted on April 26, 2009. “This is the standard IAI Heron, which can be recognized by the shape of the satellite communications radome,” said Sweetman.

Former U.S. drone pilots interviewed for this story told The Intercept that this view, showing the body of the aircraft, was a way of checking for ice or other problems.

This particular Heron seems to be modified to carry arms or other wing-mounted equipment such as sensors, but given the quality of the image, it is not entirely clear.


This is an IAI Searcher MK III, according to Sweetman. The Searcher was developed in the 1980s, but is still used by the Israel Defense Forces and by a number of other countries.


This image was intercepted early on the morning of January 7, 2010. Based on the display markings, like the dial in the upper right-hand corner, it appears to be from a drone made by the company Aeronautics. (Thisvideo from the manufacturer shows a similar view.) The image indicates that this model was equipped with Forward-Looking Infrared (FLIR) camera.

Unlike other Anarchist snapshots identified byTheIntercept, the video angles downward and appears to show a view of buildings below.

A GCHQ document from 2010 reported that analysts on Cyprus had collected signals from Aeronautics’Aerostar Tactical, a medium-sized drone that has been used by the Israeli military since 2000, and sold to countries from Poland toThailand.


This blurred image was recorded on August 25, 2009, the same day that news agencies reported that the IDFbombed a smuggler tunnel in Gaza, killing three Palestinians inside. According to an Anarchist document, the signal was “too poor to process” further.


This image is from a March 2008 internal NSA newsletter celebrating the successful capture of video from the cockpit of an Israeli F-16 during unrest in the Gaza Strip. The newsletter describes a “14-second-long video” captured on January 3, 2008, which “showed an ‘unbroken line’ running through the targeting display, indicating that the target being tracked was on the ground.” On that same day, Israeli airstrikes and shelling from tanks reportedly killed nine people in Gaza.

The F-16 display was captured by operators of satellite surveillance systems at Menwith Hill, an important NSA site in England, working “closely with a GCHQ site in Cyprus for tip-offs.”


This image comes from a PowerPointpresentation and shows a video still from an Iranian-made Ababil III drone flying out of western Syria. The signal was captured by Anarchist analysts and recorded on March 11, 2012.

“MHS [Menwith Hill Station] reacted and made a collect on both the video and telemetry signals and were able to derive a couple of minutes of clear video,” a GCHQ report notes. This was “a bit of a result” for the Anarchist team, not least because the captured video resulted in “presidential interest” — presumably a reference to U.S. President Barack Obama — “in further samples of the Regime launching attacks upon the general populous [sic].”

The image offers rare evidence of Iranian drones operated by Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s military, although their use has been reportedbased on testimony from unnamed officials and on videos filmed by eyewitnesses on the ground.

A 2009 GCHQ report notes that “Iran also has an effective UAV industry and their technology has been exported to a number of terrorist organisations.”
 

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Two intercepts at different times on July 20, 2009, show how the quality of the images Anarchist grabbed could vary. Analysts would have to reprocess the feeds and clean up images to get an idea of what they were looking at.



A training manual for Anarchist explains how analysts decoded video feeds that were encrypted. Publicly available, open-source tools — such as AntiSky and ImageMagick — were used to decrypt and further process the video frames.

“The computing power needed to descramble the images in near real time is considerable,” the manual notes, but “it is still possible to descramble individual frames to determine the image content without too much effort.”


Anarchist also tracked the location of drones. This map shows movement data collected on June 24, 2009, from an Israeli drone of an unspecified type. Several locations are recorded, including one north of Nablus, a city in the West Bank, and another further southwest in the West Bank.



A 2010 GCHQ report includes stills from a video captured by Anarchist that “revealed multiple video streams from different cameras.” The report explains that “this is potentially a significant upgrade to the normal analogue video we see, this new system adds the capability to see a number of video feeds simultaneously.” It concludes that “we currently have no collection system capable of processing this signal due to the high data rate and complexity of the underlying data,” and suggests expanding capabilities in order to capture such videos.

The recording, from April 12, 2010, also contained the drone’s location data, near the Palestinian town of Attil.
 

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The recording, from April 12, 2010, also contained the drone’s location data, near the Palestinian town of Attil.


This is another ground-track showing a map of location data from an Israeli drone, intercepted on June 25, 2009. This two-second recording seems to have been made while the drone was stationary. The map has three locations marked: Tel Nof and Palmachim, both Israeli air force bases home to drone squadrons, and Ein Shemer, which houses an anti-ballistic missile battery, and where the IDF conducts drone-training flights.


Another snapshot shows what appears to be the landing gear of a drone. Sweetman, of Aviation Week, suggested that it was an Aerostar Tactical UAV.


This snapshot from a 14-second-long video dated July 13, 2009, was recorded at 4:51 in the morning, and shows what appears to be an Aerostar Tactical UAV flying at low altitude.


This is another shot of a Heron TP, taken almost six minutes into a recording captured on June 9, 2010. There is no visible missile mount or payload, but the drone appears to be carrying a modification, which Sweetman called a “ventral pannier.” Publicly availablephotos show similar storage compartments under the main hull.
 

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India's 'surgical strikes' in Kashmir: Truth or illusion?
By M Ilyas Khan BBC News, Pakistani-administered Kashmir
  • 23 October 2016
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India made headlines in late September after carrying out "surgical strikes" on militants across the de-facto border in disputed Kashmir.

Days earlier insurgents had attacked an army base in Indian-administered Kashmir, killing 18 soldiers.

Supporters of the Indian government said the army's strikes had taught Pakistan a long-awaited lesson - but Islamabad dismissed the reports as an "illusion". The BBC's M Ilyas Khan visited the border area to find out what actually happened.


What did Indian troops do?
Despite the use of the term "surgical strikes", the Indians definitely did not airdrop commandos to hit "launching pads of militants" inside Pakistani-held territory, or conduct ground assaults deep into the Pakistan-administered side. But they did cross the Line of Control (LoC), in some cases by more than a kilometre, to hit nearby Pakistani border posts.

Police officials on the Pakistani side privately concede that such a ground assault did occur in the Madarpur-Titrinot region of Poonch sector, west of Srinagar, where a Pakistani post was destroyed and one soldier killed.

In Leepa valley to the north, locals said that the Indians crossed the LoC and set up their guns on ridges directly overlooking the village of Mundakali. A Pakistani border post located at some distance east of the village was hit. Two other posts higher up in the mountains were also hit. At least four Pakistani soldiers were injured in the attack, which lasted from 05:00am until 8:00am, locals said.

A similar advance by the Indians in the Dudhnial area of Neelum valley further north was beaten back by the Pakistanis. At least one Pakistani soldier was injured - reports of a dead soldier could not be independently verified by the BBC.

The Pakistani army described the exchanges as nothing more than cross-border firing, albeit in a more co-ordinated fashion and all along the LoC.

Officials said two soldiers were killed in the attacks - one in Poonch, and one in Bhimber sector, further south. Defence minister Khwaja Asif later said a total of nine soldiers were injured in the assault.

Indian troops could not have hit a target and returned alive as the climb required was too steep, officials said. Nor could helicopters have been used to drop special forces given the difficult terrain and because Pakistan would have shot down the aircraft.

There is no conclusive evidence to prove either side's claims - the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.



Eyewitness: Ali Akbar, Mundakali village resident, Leepa Valley
I normally wake up at 4:30am. As usual I did my chores - and just then I heard small arms fire, about 100 rounds. I waited a few minutes and then I heard four bombs [mortars] land near the village. We have been in a state of war for a long time, so I knew that heavy guns meant trouble and that the village might get hit. I was standing there when four more bombs came. Then four more, after a few minutes.

The first shells had landed in the forest near the village [where a border post is located] and I saw flames and smoke rising. My wife called to me to get in. We have built a bunker in the basement with 24-inch thick walls. She said everybody was inside, and wanted me to get in too.

By now they had started targeting another one of our posts higher up on the mountaintop in front. Then the next round of shells hit another post further back.

Small arms fire also continued. This was surprising for me. They had apparently crossed over from the LoC and had set up their guns at the top of the cliff. I could heard the bullets whizzing overhead, through the treetops, snapping twigs and leaves that were falling to the ground.


The firing continued until about 6am. After that, the heavy guns fell silent but small fire continued. We remained in our basement until 10am. No one had had time to eat or drink that morning.

Later, we heard that the Indians had crossed the LoC and hit our posts from positions overlooking the valley
. I don't understand why they didn't try to reach our post where we have the local company headquarters. They could have done it. It's walkable, and is easier for them because they occupy higher ground. Perhaps our people detected their movement and fired at them which pushed them back.

This is the first time since the war on the LoC began nearly 30 years ago that they have fired from this position.

How did the Pakistanis respond?
In many areas the attack came as a surprise.

Accounts of villagers gathered in Leepa suggest that Indian soldiers first opened fire in the valley at around 0500, hitting the post near Mundakali village and blowing up a mosque adjacent to it.


A soldier who was preparing for pre-dawn prayers was hit and injured, they said.

Fire was also directed at two other posts higher up in the hills, one of which served as the forward headquarters in Leepa.


Locals say bunkers at these posts were partly destroyed and their communication system was paralysed for some time. This meant that troops stationed down in the valley and at the brigade headquarters took a while to realise what was going on.

The soldier who was injured at the Mundakali post was given first aid by villagers, and then transported to the military-run hospital in Leepa on a motorbike. Nearly two dozen villagers helped put out the fire that had engulfed the mosque.

The Pakistanis did not take long to get their act together and fired back from the remaining bunkers, pushing the Indian guns back from the ridges overlooking the valley.

In Dudhnial in Neelum valley, the action took place further up in the mountains, away from the village. A few villagers were awakened by gunfire.

An official familiar with what happened that morning said the Indians had advanced well beyond the LoC when their movements were detected.

"The Pakistani fire sent them scurrying back to their bunkers," he said.

Down south, in Poonch, Kotli and Bhimber areas, it was more or less the same story: Indians coming forward from their positions on the LoC, taking unsuspecting Pakistani soldiers by surprise both due to the suddenness of the attack and the intensity of the fire and then pulling back once the Pakistanis had a chance to respond.

Unprepared, and having a numerical disadvantage generally, the Pakistanis made use of their firepower to the fullest, exhausting their ammunition.

Locals said that in the days following the attack, hundreds of villagers were pressed into service carrying artillery shells and other ammunition to border posts to replenish their supplies.

Were any militants hit?
Kashmir-focused militants have had a strong presence in Pakistani-administered Kashmir for years. During the 1990s they crossed the LoC in droves to ambush troops on India's side.

Their activities became less visible after the 2003 ceasefire agreement between India and Pakistan, but their proficiency in suicide raids and other attacks kept them relevant to Pakistan's strategy in its dispute with India, despite denials from Pakistan's military.

The militants continue to maintain safe houses in bigger cities like Muzaffarabad, located some distance from the border area.

But they now mostly set up camps near military deployments along the LoC and away from villages where there is a growing sense of fatigue among locals towards the insurgency.

Despite the claims in the Indian media, the BBC could find little evidence that militants had been hit.

There were no reports of any of the camps in the Samahni area of Bhimber or in the Poonch-Kotli area having been hit. They are mostly located behind ridges that serve as a natural barrier against direct Indian fire.

In Leepa, some five or six wooden structures housing militants between the villages of Channian and Mundakali had not been targeted. A ridge that runs along the east bank of the nearby stream covers them from military positions on the LoC.

Likewise, in Neelum, most militant camps - such as the ones at Jhambar, Dosut and in the Gurez valley area further east - are located in the valleys below, at a safe distance from the LoC.

The BBC also could not confirm an Indian media report that Lashkar-e-Taiba camps in the Khairati Bagh village of Leepa valley and the western end of Dudhnial village in Neelum valley had been hit on 29 September.

However, in Dudhnial some locals who helped carry military munitions to forward posts the weekend following the Indian strikes said they had seen one or two damaged structures close to a Pakistani post near the border. They thought those structures might have been hit on the morning of 29 September.

But they were reluctant to discuss whether those structures had been occupied by militants, or whether five or six men had died6 there, as the Indian media had claimed.

The BBC asked the Pakistani military about militant activity in the area, but there was no immediate response.

What is the mood now?
Since 29 September there has been no let up in tension in the LoC area.

Locals in Leepa told the BBC that following the attack, there had been an increased influx of militants in the valley. Are they in the area to help the army in case border skirmishes with the Indians get worse? No one is sure.

In Neelum, a top official of the district administration called a meeting and advised locals earlier this month to start digging bunkers in or near their houses in case border tensions escalate.

A local school teacher who was at the meeting said the official was told that removing militants from the area would be a simpler and less costly option to protect villages from Indian shelling.


The strategy was a confidential matter, the official responded. It would be up to the government to decide.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-37702790


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written by a Paki Mulla on anti-Indian propaganda website BBC
.............................BBC is still doing anti India propaganda and trying to underestimate our response , they dont want to appreciate our brave army and trying to protect pakis from humiliation ............................but even these A$$h*les admitted that we crossed the LOC and ghus ke Mara
 
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