In future, we will see benefits of this. BTW, are you sure Iranian army is powerful than Saudi Arabian one?Actually mate , iranian economy owns pakistan's . lol
but the issue is not money , firstly iran is under UN sanctions we cannot buy anything .
secondly , iranian officials are pushing the national firms very very hard for self-sufficiency . for example even before the year 2007 when iran was not sanctioned militarily , we didnt buy any fighter jets at all . except some mig-29s from 1990s .
iran completely had the ability to buy heck lot of fighter jets from russia for example . even buying 250 Su-30s (with iranian upgrades ) was an option when iranian analysts rejected the offer .
We are pushing very hard to build our own industry and you'll be surprised by the outcome in 2-3 years
these things take time , specially in air force . but in Ground forces and Navy , where it takes less time , iran is already the most powerful nation in ME countries .
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You cannot buy even from Russia??Actually mate , iranian economy owns pakistan's . lol
but the issue is not money , firstly iran is under UN sanctions we cannot buy anything .
secondly , iranian officials are pushing the national firms very very hard for self-sufficiency . for example even before the year 2007 when iran was not sanctioned militarily , we didnt buy any fighter jets at all . except some mig-29s from 1990s .
iran completely had the ability to buy heck lot of fighter jets from russia for example . even buying 250 Su-30s (with iranian upgrades ) was an option when iranian analysts rejected the offer .
We are pushing very hard to build our own industry and you'll be surprised by the outcome in 2-3 years
these things take time , specially in air force . but in Ground forces and Navy , where it takes less time , iran is already the most powerful nation in ME countries .
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nah mate . we cannot buy from anyone nor anyone can buy from us . as an example , iraq allegedly wanted to buy saeghe fighter jets from iran and other contracts worth a couple of billion dollars world wide were signed . all of them got cancelled due to sanctions that were put on iran on 2007 .
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Iranian army cannot be compared to saudi counter-part . the real discussion exists between iran and turkey and maybe pakistan . saudi regime is not in the equation .praneet.bajpaie
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Haman, would you have any knowledge about the qualitative strength of the Turkish Armed Forces? Compared to India that is??nah mate . we cannot buy from anyone nor anyone can buy from us . as an example , iraq allegedly wanted to buy saeghe fighter jets from iran and other contracts worth a couple of billion dollars world wide were signed . all of them got cancelled due to sanctions that were put on iran on 2007 .
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My own belief( which may be wrong completely) was that Saudi Arabia had an advanced airforce and army but I need to check on that.nah mate . we cannot buy from anyone nor anyone can buy from us . as an example , iraq allegedly wanted to buy saeghe fighter jets from iran and other contracts worth a couple of billion dollars world wide were signed . all of them got cancelled due to sanctions that were put on iran on 2007 .
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As for being in league with Turkey, it is traditional Ottoman Sunni regime versus Safavid Shia Iran playing out again. Last time Ottomans proved better, I sincerely hope( Iran atleast does not export terrorists to non muslim nations like Pakistan and Turkey) that you Iranians have a better luck this time.:thumb:
My own belief( which may be wrong completely) was that Saudi Arabia had an advanced airforce and army but I need to check on that.nah mate . we cannot buy from anyone nor anyone can buy from us . as an example , iraq allegedly wanted to buy saeghe fighter jets from iran and other contracts worth a couple of billion dollars world wide were signed . all of them got cancelled due to sanctions that were put on iran on 2007 .
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As for being in league with Turkey, it is traditional Ottoman Sunni regime versus Safavid Shia Iran playing out again. Last time Ottomans proved better, I sincerely hope( Iran atleast does not export terrorists to non muslim nations like Pakistan and Turkey) that you Iranians have a better luck this time.:thumb:
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you are absolutely right about saudi military.
If you don't take training and experience into account then Saudi airforce is stronger than turkey airforce
They have numerical as well as technological superiority over Iran.
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Saudi Airforce is the only thing that stands out about their military. Their airforce is definitely stronger than Turkey, let alone Pakistan. Iranian airforce is pretty weak tbh.
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Saudi Air force is an extension of US air force...all those F15s etc which are hidden in desert belong to US. There is no separate Saudi Air force...it's a disguised US/zion force to ..someday..attack and destroy Iran. Saudi;s don't know how to drive a car..talk about flying fighter jets. There robes will be flying in the air through the windows of fighter jets. Saudi is a de facto colony of US. The monarchy of Saudi is slave to US policy in ME. There are lot of people against this monarchy...so it needs to be protected...not just from outside but from its own public.
Recently, I read that Paki military is being paid to help and defend Saudi Monarchy..
Recently, I read that Paki military is being paid to help and defend Saudi Monarchy..
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Pakistani soldiers were at the service of their Saudi masters when Al-Otaibi started a insurrection.
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well this thread seems to be pretty dead after i left for a while :O
Delhi's decision, annonunced over the weekend, to participate in the development of the Chabahar port in Southeastern Iran has not come a day too soon. The idea was first mooted more than a decade ago during the visit of the Iran's president, Mohammed Khatami, as the chief guest at India's Republic Day celebrations in January 2003. That it has taken so long to move on this important project underlines the fact that the UPA government failed to get its act together on critical projects involving India's national security. If the finance ministry refused to fund strategic projects within and beyond borders during the UPA rule, the government of Narendra Modi is eager to press ahead by resolving the inter-ministerial disputes. With Arun Jaitley in charge of both the finance and defence ministries, it has become a lot easier to 'convince' the bureaucrats of the finance ministry. Both Delhi and Tehran value the Chabahar port as a means to improve their geopolitical leverage vis a vis Pakistan and pursue their common interest in providing Afghanistan and Central Asia alternative routes to the Indian Ocean. The NDA government has sanctioned nearly $85 million the construction of two berths at Chabahar and the development of a container terminal. The proposal for Chabahar port came up in the context of Pakistan's plans to develop a greenfield port at Gwadar on Pakistan's Makran coast with substantive financial assistance from China at the turn of the last decade. Tehran saw the Gwadar project as undermining Iran's position as the gateway to Central Asia and decided to develop Chabahar, which is located not too far to the West from Gwadar. Delhi, which long chafed at Pakistan's refusal to provide overland access to Afghanistan, viewed the Chabahar port as a credible alternative to gaining physical access to Afghanistan. Land-locked Kabul, whose only route to the sea is through Pakistan, welcomed the project as a way to ease its strategic dependence on Islamabad. Even the United States, which was determined to isolate Iran, chose to support the efforts by Delhi, Tehran and Kabul to develop transport corridors that improve international connectivity with Afghanistan. The importance of Chabahar project has only gone up over the last decade. Afghanistan's strategic vulnerabilities are increasing amidst the U.S. plans to substantially reduce its military presence in Afghanistan. Meanwhile India-Pakistan relations have entered a tense phase. The hopes for normalisation of trade relations between the two countries have begun to evaporate. There is little prospect that Islamabad will agree to trilateral economic integration with India and Afghanistan. Delhi and Tehran must now sit down with the new government in Kabul to negotiate trilateral trade and transit agreements that will ensure an early realisation of all economic and strategic benefits that the Chabahar project promises. - See more at: Iran and India’s Road to Afghanistan | The Indian Express
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Delhi's decision, annonunced over the weekend, to participate in the development of the Chabahar port in Southeastern Iran has not come a day too soon. The idea was first mooted more than a decade ago during the visit of the Iran's president, Mohammed Khatami, as the chief guest at India's Republic Day celebrations in January 2003. That it has taken so long to move on this important project underlines the fact that the UPA government failed to get its act together on critical projects involving India's national security. If the finance ministry refused to fund strategic projects within and beyond borders during the UPA rule, the government of Narendra Modi is eager to press ahead by resolving the inter-ministerial disputes. With Arun Jaitley in charge of both the finance and defence ministries, it has become a lot easier to 'convince' the bureaucrats of the finance ministry. Both Delhi and Tehran value the Chabahar port as a means to improve their geopolitical leverage vis a vis Pakistan and pursue their common interest in providing Afghanistan and Central Asia alternative routes to the Indian Ocean. The NDA government has sanctioned nearly $85 million the construction of two berths at Chabahar and the development of a container terminal. The proposal for Chabahar port came up in the context of Pakistan's plans to develop a greenfield port at Gwadar on Pakistan's Makran coast with substantive financial assistance from China at the turn of the last decade. Tehran saw the Gwadar project as undermining Iran's position as the gateway to Central Asia and decided to develop Chabahar, which is located not too far to the West from Gwadar. Delhi, which long chafed at Pakistan's refusal to provide overland access to Afghanistan, viewed the Chabahar port as a credible alternative to gaining physical access to Afghanistan. Land-locked Kabul, whose only route to the sea is through Pakistan, welcomed the project as a way to ease its strategic dependence on Islamabad. Even the United States, which was determined to isolate Iran, chose to support the efforts by Delhi, Tehran and Kabul to develop transport corridors that improve international connectivity with Afghanistan. The importance of Chabahar project has only gone up over the last decade. Afghanistan's strategic vulnerabilities are increasing amidst the U.S. plans to substantially reduce its military presence in Afghanistan. Meanwhile India-Pakistan relations have entered a tense phase. The hopes for normalisation of trade relations between the two countries have begun to evaporate. There is little prospect that Islamabad will agree to trilateral economic integration with India and Afghanistan. Delhi and Tehran must now sit down with the new government in Kabul to negotiate trilateral trade and transit agreements that will ensure an early realisation of all economic and strategic benefits that the Chabahar project promises. - See more at: Iran and India’s Road to Afghanistan | The Indian Express
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India plans to set up reverse SEZs in Iran
India is planning to set up reverse SEZs in Iran, mainly in the fertiliser and petrochemical sector, Union Minister Ananth Kumar said today. Under the reverse special economic zone (SEZ) scheme, Indian chemical and petrochemical companies will set up plants in other countries where raw material is in abundance and available at cheaper rates, while the final product will be imported back. India is keen to explore the possibilities of setting up of reverse SEZs, particularly in the area of fertilisers and petrochemicals in Iran, as these zones can produce globally competitive products, Ananth Kumar said. Ambassador of Iran Gholamreza Ansari today called on Kumar here to discuss about the cooperation between two countries and India's plans to set up urea-ammonia plant there. Meanwhile, state-run RCF and GNFCL are already working on a proposal to set up a urea- ammonia plant. "They have expressed their wiliness to partner with India, we have asked them to a offer a long term gas contract," Fertilizer Secretary J K Mohapatra said. Ananth Kumar also added that a Joint Working Group between India and Iran in these areas with officials from both the countries will work out a roadmap for cooperation. Iranian Ambassador also extended an invitation to Ananth Kumar to visit Iran.
India plans to set up reverse SEZs in Iran | mydigitalfc.com
India is planning to set up reverse SEZs in Iran, mainly in the fertiliser and petrochemical sector, Union Minister Ananth Kumar said today. Under the reverse special economic zone (SEZ) scheme, Indian chemical and petrochemical companies will set up plants in other countries where raw material is in abundance and available at cheaper rates, while the final product will be imported back. India is keen to explore the possibilities of setting up of reverse SEZs, particularly in the area of fertilisers and petrochemicals in Iran, as these zones can produce globally competitive products, Ananth Kumar said. Ambassador of Iran Gholamreza Ansari today called on Kumar here to discuss about the cooperation between two countries and India's plans to set up urea-ammonia plant there. Meanwhile, state-run RCF and GNFCL are already working on a proposal to set up a urea- ammonia plant. "They have expressed their wiliness to partner with India, we have asked them to a offer a long term gas contract," Fertilizer Secretary J K Mohapatra said. Ananth Kumar also added that a Joint Working Group between India and Iran in these areas with officials from both the countries will work out a roadmap for cooperation. Iranian Ambassador also extended an invitation to Ananth Kumar to visit Iran.
India plans to set up reverse SEZs in Iran | mydigitalfc.com
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Iran, India to form joint group to facilitate bilateral trade
TEHRAN: Aiming to boost export of Indian products to Iran, a joint working group of experts will be formed to facilitate bilateral trade. Iran's National Standard Organisation (NSO) along with the experts from the both the sides will examine the quality of the products exported. The group would evaluate the standard and look into issues over the import of rice, tea and soya, said NSO head Nayyereh Pirouzbakht. The Indian tea imported to Iran so far has been in accordance with the international Codex and ISO standards these are the base and each country has its own conditions for its imports. "An Indian group visited Iran last month and was familiarised with the condition of standards prevailing in Iran with regard to import of rice and tea," she was quoted as saying by Iran;s state- run news agency IRNA. The official said after water, tea is the most important drink in Iran. Therefore, for its import, specific details should be considered. She said any trade transaction, on the basis of standard regulations between Iran and India, can be effective in strengthening bilateral trade.
Iran, India to form joint group to facilitate bilateral trade - The Economic Times
TEHRAN: Aiming to boost export of Indian products to Iran, a joint working group of experts will be formed to facilitate bilateral trade. Iran's National Standard Organisation (NSO) along with the experts from the both the sides will examine the quality of the products exported. The group would evaluate the standard and look into issues over the import of rice, tea and soya, said NSO head Nayyereh Pirouzbakht. The Indian tea imported to Iran so far has been in accordance with the international Codex and ISO standards these are the base and each country has its own conditions for its imports. "An Indian group visited Iran last month and was familiarised with the condition of standards prevailing in Iran with regard to import of rice and tea," she was quoted as saying by Iran;s state- run news agency IRNA. The official said after water, tea is the most important drink in Iran. Therefore, for its import, specific details should be considered. She said any trade transaction, on the basis of standard regulations between Iran and India, can be effective in strengthening bilateral trade.
Iran, India to form joint group to facilitate bilateral trade - The Economic Times
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India has shown interest for developing an offshore gas field in southern Iran amid soaring hopes of sanctions relief later this year. India's ONGC Videsh Ltd is interested in developing Farzad B gas field in the Persian Gulf waters, Indian news media reported. The issue was raised during a recent visit to Tehran of an Indian business delegation. A high level delegation comprising officials from India's ministries of finance and petroleum and executives from ONGC Videsh and Mangalore Refinery and Petrochemicals Ltd (MRPL) recently travelled to Tehran. The talks between Iranian and Indian officials centered on winning development rights to Farzad-B gas field and the possibility of setting up gas-based petrochemical/urea plant in Iran's southeastern Chabahar Port. Indian firms have so far refused to invest in Iran due to tough US and European sanctions. Farzad B gas field is estimated to hold 21.68 trillion cubic feet (tcf) of gas in place, of which 12.8 tcf is recoverable. A number of international oil giants has also voiced interest to make an Iran comeback. They include Italy's Eni, France's Total and Royal Dutch Shell that have said they are already looking into Iran's post-sanctions business potentials. This comes as Iran and the P5+1 group of countries are working on a final agreement over the Iranian nuclear energy program that has a deadline of June 30. A key point of the agreement will be the removal of a series of economic sanctions on Iran – specifically some of those that ban foreign investments in the country's oil and gas projects.
PressTV-India willing to develop Iran gas field
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PM Modi has been openly saying standing alongside leaders of central Asian nations that chabahar port is certainty and in turkemistan, he said that this will be first nation to connect with India-Iran highway from Chabahar port passing thru Afghanistan. People like Modi don't just talk ,..they walk the walk. Chabahar port and Iran-Afghan-central Asia corridor is inevitable. "Exceptionals" can don't anything more now to stop this from happening.
