India 2036 Olympics Bid - News, Updates and Discussions

[SKC]

Perfect for embarassing India at global stage.

Why are our fellow Indian so pessimistic and black pilled??

Ahmedabad has one of the cleanest City Infra. The people are more aware of surroundings and manage the city well compared to other part of Nation.

Such things were said for Commonweath Games in 2010. But Delhi surprised everyone during the games. It was managed exceptionally well.

 

[Shuturmurg]

Why are our fellow Indian so pessimistic and black pilled??

Ahmedabad has one of the cleanest City Infra. The people are more aware of surroundings and manage the city well compared to other part of Nation.

Such things were said for Commonweath Games in 2010. But Delhi surprised everyone during the games. It was managed exceptionally well.

Dude delhi commonwealth games were embarrasment.

 

[SKC]

China didn't host olympics in 2008 to make some profit, the main reason was to showcase a modern China to a global audience. Same will be for India. A good Olympics has the potential of increasing international tourism.

Points 4 and 7 are the only relevant concerns and that should be taken care of by 2030.

Olympics in 2008 and World Expo in Shanghai in 2010 caused massive urban infra revamp in Beijing and Shanghai.
Both cities grew exponentially in urban development and became the image for CCP globally.

 

[SKC]

1. Olympics are never profitable, only time it has been profitable was when it was held in existing infra.
2. We will be the lowest medal winning host. We need to get better at olympics before hosting. Atleast start getting 3-5 golds.
3. Most of the Indians don't even know most of the sports in olympics, people will hardly turn up for most of the events where India is not there.
4. India doesn't have a single world class city to host. On top of that they will be hosting in Ahmedabad. Not sure what kind of experience will that be.
5. Ahmedabad has never hosted any big multi sport event. There is not even that much hotel capacity in that city since its not a major tourist hub or not even that big of international business hub like Mumbai or Bangalore.
6. I am actually less concerned about the actual venues, If BJP is in govt. till at least 2029, and in state they will stay longer, I think venues contruction will go better than CWG. Although, mismanagement of cricket world cup makes me nervous.
7. I am more concerned about city being dirty, having inadequate infra and our public being assholes to visitors.

TLDR: We know it won't be profitable, but I am more concerned that it will be mismanaged/ visitors won't have great experience causing more disrepute like CWG. Ahmedabad should first host Asian games or CWG.

1. A lot of civil works by government and transportation stuff are never Profitable. Then should Govt stop running buses, metros, railways around the world?

2. No one cares whether we get medals of not. Brazil is not shining example of getting enough medals but they still hosted the games. We have just started to do better in sports internationally. Even a haul of 10-20 medals would be good enough for us keeping in mind that we used to win single medal in each Olympics for long time.

3. BS argument. People know a lot more about sports then you think. During CWC, people were lining to get tickets in stadiums but the govt had not released enough tickets for general public.

4. All Metro cities are WC only with their own set of problems. All WC cities have their own fare share of issues. Often the best or largest city of any country does not get to Host the Olympics. Ahmedabad currently is one of the best place to host the games.

5. If it manages to get the hosting rights, then all relevant infra will be made there.

6. The news of mismgmt of Cricket WC is overblown by our Neighbours. The opening match had the highest ever viewer ship in the stadium for all WC happened till now.

7. Ahmedabad is far from being dirty, having inadequate infra and our public being assholes to visitors.

 

[SKC]

We shouldn't do that. There is very practically no ROI in organizing the Olympics, instead use the money for something else.

We are already spending over $100 Billion in civil and Infra works in India.

Spending few Billions on Olympics won't hurt.

Olympics are not meant to be profitable or loss maker. These events are don't to announce your arrival on World stage.

 

[SKC]

Dude delhi commonwealth games were embarrasment.

Far from it.

Contingent from Australia and few other More developed nations were apologizing for berating India.

I was part of the facilitators community. My university got contract from Delhi government to train facilitators which will help the athletes from different Nations during the games.

Almost 99% of the foreign athletes were highly impressed and said they never thought India was so beautiful and can host such games.

It was UK media specifically which was doing smearing campaign to malign Indian image through BBC.

 

[SKC]

its better to host olympics in new build cities like gift city....there r lands nd properly build infrastructure (as indian standard). we get land to build proper Olympic village. it will also used for future. coz new build cities hv not much sports facilities. so we should build olympics village on new build nd planned cities, so it will used after Olympics also.

Gift city is not residential city. It is small block of commercial land made for hosting commercial business.

 

[vin bharat mahan]

Gift city is not residential city. It is small block of commercial land made for hosting commercial business.

sry...i mean dholera city (920 square km area). which will be bigger than mumbai (603 square km) ....perfect for Olympic village here.

 

[Butter Chicken]

Olympic level infra should be built in New Noida in a well planned manner

 

[vin bharat mahan]

Olympic level infra should be built in New Noida in a well planned manner

why not in new city like dholera?? it is even bigger in area than mumbai (920 square km vs 603 square km) with less population (1 million projected in future in dholera vs already 3 million in mumbai). it will need sports facilities also. so its best to build olympic village in dholera type new cities than already developed cities. our 67% population still lives in rural areas. we hv to build many new cities, coz we will see lot of migration of rural parts in coming years.

 

[Spindrift]

We are already spending over $100 Billion in civil and Infra works in India.

Spending few Billions on Olympics won't hurt.

Olympics are not meant to be profitable or loss maker. These events are don't to announce your arrival on World stage.

That is true, but I would rather the money be spent on buying gear for our soldiers.

 

[SKC]

sry...i mean dholera city (920 square km area). which will be bigger than mumbai (603 square km) ....perfect for Olympic village here.

Dholera is too new for such events. It has just started to build itself. It would need 2030 years to mature.

 

[SKC]

That is true, but I would rather the money be spent on buying gear for our soldiers.

You can want 100 things but that does not mean it will come true.

Money spent on Infra and Olympics is different from money spent on Armed forces.

 

[SKC]

why not in new city like dholera?? it is even bigger in area than mumbai (920 square km vs 603 square km) with less population (1 million projected in future in dholera vs already 3 million in mumbai). it will need sports facilities also. so its best to build olympic village in dholera type new cities than already developed cities. our 67% population still lives in rural areas. we hv to build many new cities, coz we will see lot of migration of rural parts in coming years.

Both New Noida and Dholera are too new. They are in their infancy. You need a city which is built to a certain extent and having sizable population living there already.

 

[ezsasa]

Use this thread for olympics hosting related discussions

 

[Coalmine]

It will be in a city where bjp can keep power for next 12 years

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

Brazilian cities are an order of magnitude cleaner than our cities. Even then, there were so many controversies. That's what everyone is concerned about. Right now, there's no way any global event will be hosted in India. But things should become better by 2036.

If Ahmedabad manages to win the bid (low probability) and we organise Olympics properly, it will be a huge boost to our perception and global image (just like China in 2008). So, we seriously bid and improve infra, sanitation, hygiene and cleanliness during this decade..

the thing is, if we play our cards just moderately right, we could use the Olympics excuse internally and externally as a reason to push forward major infra upgrades across the major hosting cities., the government would have a good reason to move forward with some permanent (read - not temporary cosmetic changes) infra upgrades and moving and clearing about slums and congested streets and general cleanliness. they will have some time too - 10 years to move forward with the plans.

it is a 50-50 decision. there is opportunity and risk.

usually, people and general andolan jeevis can use excuses to halt progress. now with this, we can use one more strong excuse to bulldoze forward our plans which includes non-olympics related infra too.

 

[Varoon2]

Far from it.

Contingent from Australia and few other More developed nations were apologizing for berating India.

I was part of the facilitators community. My university got contract from Delhi government to train facilitators which will help the athletes from different Nations during the games.

Almost 99% of the foreign athletes were highly impressed and said they never thought India was so beautiful and can host such games.

It was UK media specifically which was doing smearing campaign to malign Indian image through BBC.

Yes, privately, rarely in the international media, the athletes themselves praised the games. None of the athletes themselves berated the games! It was the BBC, NY Times, Canada's Globe and Mail , and some entity in New Zealand, that denigrated the event, particularly in the case of the Canadian paper, before the games started.