IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

[itsme]

Mujahid Jihadi pigs getting butchered all over the world..... Soon the world will be a better place.

 

[hit&run]

Terrorist randians, I'm glad you guys have been first punished by one mujahid who sent 40 of your men to hell and then when you tried to come into Pakistan, PAF punished you. Pakistan needs to punish you more. Lol suckers wanted war with us.

Tere maa de fudi maar reha Modi roj, heera Mandi di gasti deya putta.

Tere Dadi we chodi se India ne 1971 ch.

 

[Joker]

Terrorist randians, I'm glad you guys have been first punished by one mujahid who sent 40 of your men to hell and then when you tried to come into Pakistan, PAF punished you. Pakistan needs to punish you more. Lol suckers wanted war with us.

But why don't you tell us what happening your mom's nikah halala? Was gafoora invited? Did gafoora screw you instead?
Was it your father or grandfather who surrendered Dhaka?
What was the technique you used to give bin Laden fellatio??

 

[Kay]

@Mods: please clean up thread.

 

[rone]

Its normal when porki goat f..kers get reatrd they come IDF let go their frustrations here, and when get ass kicked by admins run back to shit hole peee DF and cry there abt idf treatment

 

[Psy Warrior]

Check this tweet on F-16 inventory

 

[The Ultranationalist]

https://theprint.in/defence/not-awa...ogfight-with-iaf-says-us-defence-dept/217733/

Haven’t counted Pakistan’s F-16s, says Pentagon after US magazine claimed it did
Foreign Policy magazine claimed Pakistan's F-16s were found to be intact after a count by US defence personnel, which goes against India's position that it downed one of the jets on 27 February.
YASHWANT RAJ Updated: 6 April, 2019 2:49 pm IST

The F-16 manufactured by Lockheed Martin | Lockheed Martin
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Washington: The United States defence department on Friday said it was “not aware” of any investigation that was conducted to ascertain if Pakistan had lost an F-16 in a dogfight with Indian fighter jets on February 27, contrary to a report by a news publication that had gone on to say, citing unidentified defence officials, the count revealed none was missing.

Foreign Policy magazine reported Thursday that US defence personnel conducted recently a physical count of Pakistan’s F-16s and found all in tact, none missing. It attributed the finding to two unidentified senior US defence officials and said the count was conducted at the invitation of Pakistan..

A US defence department spokesman told Hindustan Times in a statement that they, the department, “weren’t aware of any investigation like that”, that was said to have been conducted, according to unidentified defence officials cited in the FP report, and referred this reporter to the Department of State.

The state department distanced itself from the news report saying in response to a direct request to confirm or deny it, “As a matter of policy, the Department does not publicly comment on details of government-to-government agreements on end-use monitoring of US-origin defence articles.”

And it went on to reiterate its stated policy on Pakistan: “It is important to note that since January 2018, the United States government has suspended security assistance to Pakistan.”

Also read: Radio intercepts, parachute sightings, e-signatures: IAF sure it shot down Pakistani F-16

US government’s position appears to be in line with India, which in the backdrop of the attack, has reaffirmed its account of the downing of the Pakistani F-16, citing “electronic signature” as evidence. “During the aerial engagement that followed, one MiG 21 Bison of the IAF shot down one F-16,” Air Vice Marshal RGV Kapoor said Friday, “The Indian Forces have confirmed ejections at two different places on that day. These were separated by at least 8-10 kms. One was an IAF MiG 21 Bison and the other a PAF aircraft.”

India had scrambled its fighter jets to respond to a Pakistan air force intrusion into Indian airspace on February 27. Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman, who was flying a MiG 21 Bison, got a lock on a PAF F-16 and shot it before his own aircraft was hit, forcing him to bail, according to Indian officials.

The wing commander landed in Pakistan and was captured by Pakistan’s armed forces. Pakistani aircraft, on the other hand, fell in Pakistan, India has said and circulated pictures of one of its pilots and it has also said it knew the pilot’s name.

India has also complained to the United States that Pakistan used American-supplied F-16s in the attack in a possible infraction of the memorandum of sale of the aircraft, and handed over evidence, pieces of an AMRAAM (advanced medium range air-to-air missile) that Pakistani fighter jets had used in the dogfight — no other Pakistani air-force aircraft can fire these missiles.

The United States routinely inspects defence equipment sold by its companies to foreign countries, as part of their respective end-use agreements. Pakistan, for instance, is prohibited from flying F-16s out of the country without notifying the United States in advance, according to sale agreement.

Foreign policy magazine cited a senior US defence official to say the physical count was conducted at the invitation of Pakistan. And it took a while because not all aircraft were immediately available for inspection due to the conflict.

The report went on to quote an unidentified senior defense official, “all aircraft were present and accounted for”. It cited a second official, who knew of the count, to say no Pakistani F-16s were missing.

The count included F-16s that Pakistan had acquired from Jordan under third-party transfer the report said, adding that they were subject to the same end-user agreement and its rules.

 

[Aman kumar]

It's time for iaf to release proof and close this case once and for all...

 

[Armand2REP]

https://theprint.in/defence/not-awa...ogfight-with-iaf-says-us-defence-dept/217733/

Haven’t counted Pakistan’s F-16s, says Pentagon after US magazine claimed it did
Foreign Policy magazine claimed Pakistan's F-16s were found to be intact after a count by US defence personnel, which goes against India's position that it downed one of the jets on 27 February.
YASHWANT RAJ Updated: 6 April, 2019 2:49 pm IST

The F-16 manufactured by Lockheed Martin | Lockheed Martin
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Washington: The United States defence department on Friday said it was “not aware” of any investigation that was conducted to ascertain if Pakistan had lost an F-16 in a dogfight with Indian fighter jets on February 27, contrary to a report by a news publication that had gone on to say, citing unidentified defence officials, the count revealed none was missing.

Foreign Policy magazine reported Thursday that US defence personnel conducted recently a physical count of Pakistan’s F-16s and found all in tact, none missing. It attributed the finding to two unidentified senior US defence officials and said the count was conducted at the invitation of Pakistan..

A US defence department spokesman told Hindustan Times in a statement that they, the department, “weren’t aware of any investigation like that”, that was said to have been conducted, according to unidentified defence officials cited in the FP report, and referred this reporter to the Department of State.

The state department distanced itself from the news report saying in response to a direct request to confirm or deny it, “As a matter of policy, the Department does not publicly comment on details of government-to-government agreements on end-use monitoring of US-origin defence articles.”

And it went on to reiterate its stated policy on Pakistan: “It is important to note that since January 2018, the United States government has suspended security assistance to Pakistan.”

Also read: Radio intercepts, parachute sightings, e-signatures: IAF sure it shot down Pakistani F-16

US government’s position appears to be in line with India, which in the backdrop of the attack, has reaffirmed its account of the downing of the Pakistani F-16, citing “electronic signature” as evidence. “During the aerial engagement that followed, one MiG 21 Bison of the IAF shot down one F-16,” Air Vice Marshal RGV Kapoor said Friday, “The Indian Forces have confirmed ejections at two different places on that day. These were separated by at least 8-10 kms. One was an IAF MiG 21 Bison and the other a PAF aircraft.”

India had scrambled its fighter jets to respond to a Pakistan air force intrusion into Indian airspace on February 27. Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman, who was flying a MiG 21 Bison, got a lock on a PAF F-16 and shot it before his own aircraft was hit, forcing him to bail, according to Indian officials.

The wing commander landed in Pakistan and was captured by Pakistan’s armed forces. Pakistani aircraft, on the other hand, fell in Pakistan, India has said and circulated pictures of one of its pilots and it has also said it knew the pilot’s name.

India has also complained to the United States that Pakistan used American-supplied F-16s in the attack in a possible infraction of the memorandum of sale of the aircraft, and handed over evidence, pieces of an AMRAAM (advanced medium range air-to-air missile) that Pakistani fighter jets had used in the dogfight — no other Pakistani air-force aircraft can fire these missiles.

The United States routinely inspects defence equipment sold by its companies to foreign countries, as part of their respective end-use agreements. Pakistan, for instance, is prohibited from flying F-16s out of the country without notifying the United States in advance, according to sale agreement.

Foreign policy magazine cited a senior US defence official to say the physical count was conducted at the invitation of Pakistan. And it took a while because not all aircraft were immediately available for inspection due to the conflict.

The report went on to quote an unidentified senior defense official, “all aircraft were present and accounted for”. It cited a second official, who knew of the count, to say no Pakistani F-16s were missing.

The count included F-16s that Pakistan had acquired from Jordan under third-party transfer the report said, adding that they were subject to the same end-user agreement and its rules.

I told you guys they weren't wasting money to conduct an investigation... now do you believe me?

 

[cannonfodder]

It's time for iaf to release proof and close this case once and for all...

The proof that IAF has like entire recording by AWACS cannot be made public IMO. Other proof like ground based intel are again not going to help you win twitter war.

People who dont want to believe IAF and abhinandan are not going to believe anything anyway. It will be just like SS-1 which commies and jihadis believe did not happen. No matter how much proof you will throw at them. So whatever IAF has disclosed is good enough. It is unfortunate that only in our country such non sense goes on and on.

Between this is another incident that should go in paki lies and denial thread with support from fake news peddlers and defence lobbist.

Abhi said he shot the plane and IAf is convinced about that. Everything else is just noise. Now let's say iaf release digital recording of entire incident in public, how you gonna verify it? Hans will take that home and decipher some good amount of tech information from that last thing u want.

 

[Armand2REP]

The proof that IAF has like entire recording by AWACS cannot be made public IMO. Other proof like ground based intel are again not going to help you win twitter war.

If they had an AWACS up then they have a recording. If they didn't then they don't have one.

People who dont want to believe IAF and abhinandan are not going to believe anything anyway. It will be just like SS-1 which commies and jihadis believe did not happen. No matter how much proof you will throw at them. So whatever IAF has disclosed is good enough. It is unfortunate that only in our country such non sense goes on and on.

What exactly has IAF released? Everything I am reading is second hand.

 

[cannonfodder]

What do you want IAF to do other than showing some reporters selected images of phalcon awacs and radar signatures. Is this some football match or Tomb of raider walk through? Clearly IAF had phalcon awacs in air + radar signatures.

In the same light, Please show me the proof of Iraq WMD's and other things that your countries made up before destroying them.

If they had an AWACS up then they have a recording. If they didn't then they don't have one.


What exactly has IAF released? Everything I am reading is second hand.

 

[White Wolf]

They need to show a clear picture of the battle and events that transpired. In the press briefing they said the MiG-21 shot down two aircraft. I don't see them saying that now. They said the Mi17v5 went down because of a malfunction, now there is an investigation into a frat incident. Now people are saying no AWACS was even in the air. These questions need to be answered.

Mig-21 shot down two aircrafts?? When was it claimed??

 

[cannonfodder]

They need to show a clear picture of the battle and events that transpired. In the press briefing they said the MiG-21 shot down two aircraft. I don't see them saying that now. They said the Mi17v5 went down because of a malfunction, now there is an investigation into a frat incident. Now people are saying no AWACS was even in the air. These questions need to be answered.

Show us the proof of Iraq WMDS and other numerous things that EU countries claim first . Please open thread and start posting the proofs of chemical weapons you have recovered from Iraq . We will go one at time at bunch of lies you jokers peddle and expect Indians take it at face value and provide proof of each and every thing under sun.

 

[Anil47]

Obviously our own Phalcons have been soaking up PAF F-16 signatures for a long time now.

Or India would know from Israel how this signature is

 

[cannonfodder]

Mig-21 shot down two aircrafts?? When was it claimed??

He has clearly mixed up with IAF claim and PAF claim. It was Paki claim of hitting 2 planes and capturing 2-3 IAF pilots. From day one, MEA statement says 1 F-16 hit at cost of 1 Mig down and they have stood there ground. If there is helicopter down IAF/GOI will held inquiry and put its report in writing. We are not bunch of losers that let 6 soldiers die without investigation and correction.

These people wants us brown skinned people ask all kind of questions to our institutions and people. But have they held same amount of scrutiny for their own institutions and government before invading other countries and waging unnecessary wars?? I have no illusions that IAF is far from perfect organization and there will definitely be lessons learnt from both balakot as well this encounter.

 

[Arsalan123]

Lockheed Martin, the manufacturer of the F-16, said the company had not received any contact from Pakistan over the F-16. “Usually, the original equipment manufacturer is immediately contacted when their aircraft goes down. However, there was no inquiry sent from Pakistan,” a senior official said. “This adds further credence that no F-16 was lost.”

https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/04/article/us-officials-shoot-down-indian-claims-of-f-16-kill/

 

[Bleh]

“Usually, the original equipment manufacturer is immediately contacted when their aircraft goes down. However, there was no inquiry sent from Pakistan,” a senior official said. “This adds further credence that no F-16 was lost.”

Ofcourse they didn't... When Pakistan is trying to claim no F-16 was lost, you think they'll start any "immediate enquiry" about a lost aircraft!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Enquirer]

Lockheed Martin, the manufacturer of the F-16, said the company had not received any contact from Pakistan over the F-16. “Usually, the original equipment manufacturer is immediately contacted when their aircraft goes down. However, there was no inquiry sent from Pakistan,” a senior official said. “This adds further credence that no F-16 was lost.”

https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/04/article/us-officials-shoot-down-indian-claims-of-f-16-kill/

Dude! That guy Saikat Datta is an asshole paid by the Chinese & he'll willfully writes BS.

At least you shouldn't be so dumb to take it at face value!

The OEM(Lockheed) would be contacted if the aircraft crashed on its own - because of product guarantees! Why on earth would Lockheed be called when the aircraft's ass was busted by a missile?

Your logic (that you subscribe from a'hole Saikat) is that
"normally when someone gets injured a doctor/ambulance is called; since no doctor/ambulance was called no murder took place!!!!"

 

[Mridul Manohar Mishra]

The funniest part of F-16 counting drama is that no one from Pakistan said a thing or even leaked a thing when actual counting was going on. This is quite unbelievable given them posting every nitty gritty of the entire saga. And when an article quoting anonymous sources comes out, every one in Pakistan establishment wakes up saying they are vindicated by the report as if the counting happened without them even knowing about it.