IAF begins Apache trials

[Kunal Biswas]

Will LCH have same weapon load that apache have . Definitely a heavier helicopter will be able to carry more weapons. I am not sure about it maybe you know better than me as you are from military background.

LCH in Anti-tank mode over Thar..
Regarding LCH in ANTI-TANK role it can carry 16 lahat Antitank missile in all 4 hard-points plus 20mm cannon..
It can also carry 8 NAG ( 2 in each hard-points ) with 20mm cannon..

Apache in Anti-tank mode over Thar..
Apache can carry 16 hellfire Anti-tank missile with 30mm cannon..


Hellfire is armed with bigger warhead whereas Lahat is small but effective as both missile can attack at top of the tank ( Death for t-tanks and type-tanks ) Both missile use laser guidance..

The reason why i think we should look at Russian choppers a second thought is they had first hand experience in a 10year afghan war about the role of attack helicopters,they suffered with the Stingers(though not like west exaggerates) also with their 2 campaigns in Chechnya they have some solid experience.

Very true!
But Apache have something that no other helo have is to hide its heat signature, it have a coolant type or lets say a device which cools the exhaust coming out of the engine, its located on exhausts..

Also can anyone conform its a Long bow?
Thanks in Advance..

 

[JBH22]

Very true!
But Apache have something that no other helo have is to hide its heat signature, it have a coolant type or lets say a device which cools the exhaust coming out of the engine, its located on exhausts..

Also can anyone conform its a Long bow?
Thanks in Advance..

Check this video Russians answer to the problems of stinger in Afghan war...

New Russian anti missile laser being displayed abroad

Note that with air-filter intakes you reduce the threat of heat-seeking missiles coupled with heat flares though the system is not 100% foolproof but still. I don't believe Apache is better for now only trials will tell so you see with US PR it creates a perception that their weapon system are invincible see we need something rugged,not expensive that is not maintenance hungry if AH-64 fits then why not..Otherwise IMHO its an unnecessary lavish spending.

 

[SHASH2K2]

LCH in Anti-tank mode over Thar..
Regarding LCH in ANTI-TANK role it can carry 16 lahat Antitank missile in all 4 hard-points plus 20mm cannon..
It can also carry 8 NAG ( 2 in each hard-points ) with 20mm cannon..

Apache in Anti-tank mode over Thar..
Apache can carry 16 hellfire Anti-tank missile with 30mm cannon..


Hellfire is armed with bigger warhead whereas Lahat is small but effective as both missile can attack at top of the tank ( Death for t-tanks and type-tanks ) Both missile use laser guidance..



Very true!
But Apache have something that no other helo have is to hide its heat signature, it have a coolant type or lets say a device which cools the exhaust coming out of the engine, its located on exhausts..

Also can anyone conform its a Long bow?
Thanks in Advance..

If LCH has capacity to carry so much of weapons than definitely we should speed up LCH process and then start work on next version of LCH will more improvements . Its beneficial in terms of cost reduction as well as gain of technical expertise.

 

[SHASH2K2]

I know its far fetched but can someone give a comparison between LCH and Apache. or can they be compared at least in terms of weapons carrying capability or various roles they fit into.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Check this video Russians answer to the problems of stinger in Afghan war...

New Russian anti missile laser being displayed abroad

Nice Vid!

I don't believe Apache is better for now only trials will tell so you see with US PR it creates a perception that their weapon system are invincible see we need something rugged,not expensive that is not maintenance hungry if AH-64 fits then why not..Otherwise IMHO its an unnecessary lavish spending.

The purchase of new helo as replacement for MI-35 right now seems unrealistic as we will receive LCH in next few years, In case of a war on desert ( Unlikely in next 5 years ) IAF will be in use of MIG-27 & 21 for CAS role not 22no of MI-35/25 ( Few nos )
Still if IAF feels than its Ok!
Apache provide all what we need..
Next one Mi-28NE also gives what we need!
Both gives all..

ah-64d

MI-28NE

I know its far fetched but can someone give a comparison between LCH and Apache. or can they be compared at least in terms of weapons carrying capability or various roles they fit into.

Mainly CAS, but also in Short range anti-aircraft role with AAMs..

 

[youngindian]

High-Flying Apache Helicopter Pilots Take Aim with Arrowhead



http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/arrowhead-mtads-pnvs-sensor-system-06461/

 

[SHASH2K2]

US clears Apache radars, weapons, engines for India​

The US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) notified the US Congress, last week, of its approval for the possible Foreign Military Sale (FMS) of radars, weapons and engines in the event of a possible Direct Commercial Sale of 22 AH-64D Block III Apache helicopters to India.

The Indian Air Force (IAF) is looking for 22 attack helicopters through a tender, where Boeing's Apache is up against the Russian Mi-28, and in the event the former is selected, some components of the aircraft will have to be purchased through an FMS.

"This notification is being made in advance so that, in the event that the Boeing- US Army proposal is selected, the United States might move as quickly as possible to implement the sale," says the the statement issued by the US DSCA.

According to the statement, the FMS components to be supplied along with the direct commercial sale of 22 AH-64D Block III Apache helicopters would include '50 T700-GE-701D engines, 12 AN/APG-78 Fire Control Radars, 12 AN/APR-48A Radar Frequency Interferometers, 812 AGM-114L-3 Hellfire Longbow missiles, 542 AGM-114R-3 Hellfire II missiles, 245 Stinger Block I-92H missiles, and 23 Modernized Target Acquisition Designation Sight/Pilot Night Vision Sensors'.

Other components and services would include 'rockets, training and dummy missiles, 30mm ammunition, transponders, simulators, global positioning system/inertial navigation systems, communication equipment, spare and repair parts; tools and test equipment, support equipment, repair and return support, personnel training and training equipment; publications and technical documentation, U.S. Government and contractor engineering and logistics support services; and other related elements of logistics support'.

The US DSCA says the complete package is worth approximately $1.4 billion.

 

[Oracle]

A nice Vid: