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Re: HAL pushes HTT-40 as light attack platform

There is one way to sort this thing:

1- Give mandate to HAL that the HTT-40 should be induction ready by 2017 without any doubts.

If they fail, they must scrap off this project and from their allocated budget, must pay the government compensation for the amount of money channelled towards this project.

2- All the bureaucrats responsible for the project should be fired without any trial or reason if the project doesn't meet deadlines.

About time MOD got serious about military and defence.

We have become a laughing stock of the world as such.

No more compromises.
 

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Re: HAL pushes HTT-40 as light attack platform

There is one way to sort this thing:
1- Give mandate to HAL that the HTT-40 should be induction ready by 2017 without any doubts.
If they fail, they must scrap off this project and from their allocated budget, must pay the government compensation for the amount of money channelled towards this project.
2- All the bureaucrats responsible for the project should be fired without any trial or reason if the project doesn't meet deadlines.
About time MOD got serious about military and defence.
We have become a laughing stock of the world as such.
No more compromises.
1) That is wasting our money..... HAL is govt body... At lost its all tax payers money..

2) All IAF officials who are scambased should be removed ... Buying from foreign entities with huge bribing should be stopped...

we have to maintain good quality.. That should be priority..


P.S I mean we should buy from foreign companies.. but it should be limited.. We have to learn from LCA why it got delayed. mainly because of sanctions ...
 

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Time for a hard look at the aviation industry

OVER the past few months, a raging controversy has gathered steam involving the Indian Air Force and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), with the Ministry of Defence (MoD) being a mute spectator. The genesis of the case is the grounding in 2009, of the HAL built HPT 32 trainer aircraft that was being used by the IAF for basic training of its pilots, due to repeated accidents and HAL's inability to arrive at solutions.

At the time the then Chief of Air Staff had said that the aircraft fleet had experienced 108 engine failures and mishaps resulting in 23 fatalities. A fatal accident involving two experienced flying instructors broke the proverbial camel's back, leading to the final grounding of the aircraft. It also left the IAF without a basic trainer aircraft, which is a critical tool in laying the foundation on which is based the future mental and operational potential of any military pilot.

To fill this deep void, the MoD cleared the acquisition of 181 basic trainer aircraft in 2009 with immediate import of 75 aircraft and the remaining 106 to be made up of the proposed indigenous HAL design, the HTT 40. Consequently an order was placed for the purchase of 75 Pilatus PC II from Switzerland through import and the initial batch of Pilatus trainers has since been received. After a gap of over four years, the IAF will be settling down to an established training pattern for at least part of the trainees whose number will progressively grow as the number of trainer aircraft increases.

In the interim, the IAF will be compelled to resort to an ad hoc training system, which will have a negative opportunity cost attached to it, in terms of a weaker training foundation. This, though unquantifiable, will no doubt reflect on both operational capability and safety record of the IAF in times to come.



The government should devise a national aeronautics policy that caters to the requirements of all the stakeholders and put in place an aeronautics commission along with a dedicated department of aeronautics and supporting institutional bodies

As reported, the IAF is keen that the MoD exercises the option clause in the Pilatus contract to procure another 36 aircraft with the shortfall of the remaining 70 trainers also to be made through later purchases of this aircraft. If this proposal is accepted by the MOD, it will sound the death knell of HAL's HTT 40 project.

Not unnaturally, HAL is unhappy with this development. The spark, which seems to have ignited this open fight, is a purported letter by the Air Chief to the Defence Minister in support of the IAF's proposal, including the supposed cost benefits of importing the aircraft. Those against closing of the HAL project are not only questioning the cost benefit argument, but casting indirect aspersions on the very integrity of the IAF by hints of import preference and undue favoritism.

That the current spat is being played out in the public domain is unfortunate since both the organisations come directly under the defence ministry. It is not this writer's case to wade into the details of the arguments on either side of the present controversy, but to look at the larger picture of why the perennial love-hate relationship between IAF and HAL never seems to die. The debate on whose view should prevail is by no means new.

The IAF is often accused both by HAL and the Defence Research and Development Organisation of changing staff requirements mid-stream, of being pro-import and against self-reliance in their choice of platforms and systems. The IAF's grouse is that HAL and DRDO are given first lien on meeting their requirements based on inflated claims and then failing to meet these commitments of performance, time frames and costs.

Parameters of the debate may differ but they are of little consequence until the national security establishment is able to define its priorities. The fundamental question that arises is whether our defense research and development and production are there to serve the needs of the armed forces or is it that the armed forces must play second fiddle to sustain a military industrial complex that is bureaucratically driven with an archaic mindset out of tune with the technological and commercial realities of today.

If we look to some of the industrialised countries that run very successful aerospace industries and who are the benefactors of obtaining our contracts, it is evident that their countries have arrived at a unique model for managing this dilemma. As warfare and technology have evolved, they have continued to develop organisational models for not just their armed forces, but also found the right balance for interfacing with the complex aerospace business in a way that serves the needs of the armed forces and also the commercial and strategic interests of the industry and the national economy itself.

Unfortunately we, in India, have steadfastly refused to review the organisational model of the MoD, which remains frozen in time. We are hence witness to inter service rivalry that results in wasteful duplications and a military-industrial complex that is only accountable to its bureaucratic masters and not to the ultimate users. The MoD becomes the arbiter in disputes like the present one and with no professionals within it to guide it; every thing comes down to personalities and ad hocism. Since there is neither an aerospace vision nor strategy, we are condemned to continuing imports and licence manufacture. This can then be blamed on the IAF!



HAL'S HTT — 40


Mock-up of the HTT—40 at an aero show

The Hindustan Turbo Trainer (HTT) — 40
aircraft project is a proposed indigenous replacement for the Indian Air Force's retired HPT — 32 Deepak basic trainer.

Conceived by state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited, the HTT — 40 will be an all-metal tandem seat aircraft powered by a 950 hp turbo-prop engine with zero-zero-ejection seats and multi-functional displays.

According to reports, HAL had in 2012, projected a production line of 106 aircraft.


The roles envisioned for the HTT — 40 include basic flying training, aerobatics, instrument flying, navigation, night flying and close formation flying.

With a maximum speed of 600 kph and a ceiling of 20,000 feet, it would also have a limited ordnance payload capability of guns, rockets or bombs.

Each HTT—40 is estimated to cost Rs 35 crore

Defence Minister AK Antony recently stated that as far as the MoD was concerned, the project was still on

Today HAL is one of the largest aerospace companies in Asia with the IAF as its captive customer. It is no exaggeration to say that the IAF and HAL are locked in an embrace from which neither can disengage without delivering a mortal blow to the other. But rather than promoting cohesiveness and mutual support and add the Air Officer-in-Charge Maintenance to the HAL's board along with the Deputy Chief of Air Staff, one finds that even the Deputy Chief of the Air Staff has been taken off the board and relegated to the position of a permanent invitee.

No aerospace company in the world today attempts to cover every aerospace activity as does HAL. The last known was probably the erstwhile Soviet Union where some of their aircraft factories were reduced to making domestic goods! Also no aerospace company in the world attempts to be totally self-reliant because technologies needed are diverse and need cross linkages to be dynamic, efficient and economical.

The time has now come for the government to take a hard look at how our entire aerospace industry is being organised and managed. It should devise a national aeronautics policy that caters to the requirements of all the stakeholders duly harmonised where necessary and put in place an aeronautics commission along with a dedicated department of aeronautics and supporting institutional bodies. These should be tasked with strategising and achieving the scientific, technological and industrial goals in furtherance of this policy. A proposal to this effect was first mooted by the Aeronautical Society of India under the presidentship of Dr APJ Abdul Kalam and later modified and submitted to the government in 2004. This writer recalls being part of the initiative. It would be worth opening this for serious debate and implementation.

In the meantime, is it too much to hope for the MoD and HAL to focus on the bigger challenges facing the military-industrial complex and not grudge the IAF having its small way in getting a basic trainer of it's choice? In the larger interest of the future combat potential and safety of our pilots, is this not the morally upright decision for our Defence Minister to take?

The writer has served as a test pilot with HAL and while posted as Deputy Chief of Air Staff, was also on the HAL Board
 

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Finally a breather for HTT 40
MoD backs indigenous HAL trainer, air force to visit HAL for discussions

Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) is continuing to develop a made-in-India basic trainer aircraft (BTA), despite Indian Air Force (IAF) attempts to scupper the project. On Monday, a team of top IAF officers will visit Bangalore to discuss with HAL the proposal and roadmap for an Indian trainer, dubbed the Hindustan Turbo Trainer–40 (HTT-40).

Last month, IAF boss, Air Chief Marshal NAK Browne, had personally targeted the HTT-40. Writing to Defence Minister AK Antony, Browne asked him to scrap the indigenous trainer, and instead buy 106 BTAs from Swiss company, Pilatus.

Already, on May 24, 2012, the IAF had bought 75 Pilatus PC-7 Mark II trainers for Rs 4,000 crore (Swiss Franc 557 million). Browne additionally demanded the purchase of 38 more trainers under an 'Option Clause'; and then 68 more as 'Repeat Procurement'. For Pilatus, that means contracts worth Rs 6,000 crore (Swiss Franc 848 million) without further tendering.

And for HAL it would mean an end to the HTT-40, which it has defiantly pursued, even committing Rs 150 crore of internal funds into the project.

Top defence ministry (MoD) decision-makers have serious concerns about the air chief's request. In end-July Business Standard had revealed serious factual inaccuracies in Browne's letter to Mr Antony. The IAF chief had argued for scrapping the HTT-40 by claiming that the PC-7 Mark II costs Rs 30 crore, far cheaper than the HTT-40. But his calculations were outdated, since the sliding rupee had raised the cost of each PC-7 Mark II (Swiss Francs 6.09 million) to Rs 40 crore. Today each PC-7 Mark II will cost over Rs 43.6 crore.

Furthermore, the IAF apparently flouted rules by changing some 12 benchmarks between March and October 2009, including parameters relating to pilot safety. These changes brought the PC-7 Mark II into compliance with IAF requirements, eventually winning the contract. The CBI enquiry into the VVIP helicopter purchase from AgustaWestland is centred on how requirements were changed.

On Aug 12, at the launching of INS Vikramaditya in Kochi, Mr Antony had bluntly stated that the HTT-40 project would continue.

Also raising eyebrows within the MoD is the alacrity with which the IAF grounded the HPT-32 trainer after a fatal crash in 2009, creating a pilot training crisis that opened the door for the purchase of the Pilatus PC-7 Mark II.

The HPT-32 was labelled unsafe after 19 pilots were killed in 17 accidents over 23 years of flying, during which the HPT-32 logged 4,00,000 flight hours. That is less than one crash per year on average.

In contrast, the IAF continues to fly the MiG-21, despite a far more horrific safety record. In Jun 2003, then IAF head, Air Chief Marshal S Krishnaswamy, revealed that 98 MiG-21 crashes had occurred in 5,53,000 sorties between 1994-2003, claiming 43 lives --- a record twice as bad as the HPT-32.

MiG fighters have sustained this trend over four decades. According to figures tabled in parliament by Mr Antony, 482 IAF MiGs (of all types) have crashed over the years, killing 171 IAF pilots, 8 other servicemen, and 39 civilians.

Senior MoD officials are now questioning whether the HPT-32 was deliberately grounded to make way for foreign trainers. Grounding the MiG-21 would not have led to import. It would only have increased pressure on the IAF to order the Tejas LCA in larger numbers.

On Jun 25, 2003, when asked why the IAF continued with the MiG-21 despite so many crashes, Air Chief Marshal Krishnaswamy retorted, 'It is my responsibility to exploit every IAF aircraft to the end of its service life. I can't just throw out serviceable aircraft, demanding modernisation.'

Today, the IAF is throwing out 110 HPT-32. The majority of them are good to continue till 2018-2024, even if they fly 250 hours per year, a reasonable average for a trainer. More than 2000 IAF pilots --- including the IAF chief and his son, a Sukhoi-30MKI pilot --- have learned to fly on the HPT-32.

MoD sources confirm that HAL has thrice offered to develop a successor to the HPT-32, but the IAF has stymied each proposal. The HAL Chairman in 1985, Air Marshal LM Katre, who would go on to become IAF chief, fitted a more powerful engine to the HPT-32, creating a new trainer --- called HTT-34 --- which obtained full certification. But the IAF inexplicably refused to accept it.

In July 1993, HAL again sent the IAF a detailed 'Project Definition Phase Report' for a new trainer. The IAF again did not respond. Again, in Feb 2004, HAL submitted a detailed proposal to Air Headquarters. Again there was no response.
 

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Re: HAL pushes HTT-40 as light attack platform

A very good news... on HAL part it should ensure that the aircraft is fully developed and build within country and note mere assembly in house... Total indegenious developement is the only way out...
 

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MoD backs indigenous HAL trainer, air force to visit HAL for discussions
Writing to Defence Minister AK Antony, Browne asked him to scrap the indigenous trainer

Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) is continuing to develop a made-in-India basic trainer aircraft (BTA), despite Indian Air Force (IAF) attempts to scupper the project. On Monday, a team of top IAF officers will visit Bangalore to discuss with HAL the proposal and roadmap for an Indian trainer, dubbed the Hindustan Turbo Trainer–40 (HTT-40).

Last month, IAF boss, Air Chief Marshal NAK Browne, had personally targeted the HTT-40. Writing to Defence Minister AK Antony, Browne asked him to scrap the indigenous trainer, and instead buy 106 BTAs from Swiss company, Pilatus.

The IAF chief had argued for scrapping the HTT-40 by claiming that the PC-7 Mark II costs Rs 30 crore, far cheaper than the HTT-40. But his calculations were outdated, since the sliding rupee had raised the cost of each PC-7 Mark II (Swiss Francs 6.09 million) to Rs 40 crore. Today each PC-7 Mark II will cost over Rs 43.6 crore.

Furthermore, the IAF apparently flouted rules by changing some 12 benchmarks between March and October 2009, including parameters relating to pilot safety. These changes brought the PC-7 Mark II into compliance with IAF requirements, eventually winning the contract. The CBI enquiry into the VVIP helicopter purchase from AgustaWestland is centred on how requirements were changed.

Senior MoD officials are now questioning whether the HPT-32 was deliberately grounded to make way for foreign trainers. Grounding the MiG-21 would not have led to import. It would only have increased pressure on the IAF to order the Tejas LCA in larger numbers.

On Jun 25, 2003, when asked why the IAF continued with the MiG-21 despite so many crashes, Air Chief Marshal Krishnaswamy retorted, 'It is my responsibility to exploit every IAF aircraft to the end of its service life. I can't just throw out serviceable aircraft, demanding modernization.'

The HAL Chairman in 1985, Air Marshal LM Katre, who would go on to become IAF chief, fitted a more powerful engine to the HPT-32, creating a new trainer --- called HTT-34 --- which obtained full certification. But the IAF inexplicably refused to accept it.

In July 1993, HAL again sent the IAF a detailed 'Project Definition Phase Report' for a new trainer. The IAF again did not respond. Again, in Feb 2004, HAL submitted a detailed proposal to Air Headquarters. Again there was no response.
Source : MoD backs indigenous HAL trainer, air force to visit HAL for discussions | Business Standard
 

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Re: HAL pushes HTT-40 as light attack platform

1. IAF claims of high price of HTT-40 based on outdated database to promote import..

2. IAF changing some parameters leading PC-7 Mark II into compliance with IAF requirements, eventually winning the contract..

3. IAF purposefully rejected all National BTA projects since 1985..

4. HPT-32 was deliberately grounded to make way for foreign trainers. Grounding the MiG-21 would not have led to import.

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Big per-planned Scam ..

@Kunal Biswas please do elaborate on these issues - like they say, sunlight is the best disinfectant !
So we can now understand why IAF wants to close down the HTT-40 so badly.
 
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History of rejection >>



The turboprop powered HTT-34 which was developed as a private venture by HAL. The 313kW (420shp) Allison 250-B17D powered HTT-34 flew for the first time, in a converted HTP-32 prototype form, on 17 June 1984. The new engine significantly boasted performance on the the basic aircraft, but was cancelled as official interest was not forthcoming.

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HTT-35 advanced turboprop trainer, in particular its full-scale mock-up, which was designed and fabricated in-house by HAL in the late 1980s and rolled out in the early 1990s—all in all a four-year effort. The objective at that time was to team up with a global avionics supplier (most probably THALES) and co-design the semi-glass tandem cockpits and offer the aircraft for evaluation by the IAF by 1998. However, after 1994 the HTT-35 disappeared, literally!

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HTT-40 aircraft project is a Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) proposal for an indigenous replacement for the Indian Air Force's retired HPT-32 Deepak as a basic trainer. IAF trying to kill it by using cheap shots such as claims of high price of HTT-40 based on outdated database to promote import, Changing parameters to push PC-7 Mark II than other competitors, eventually winning the contract..
 

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Folks there is a little bit of history here - it's not about HTT 40 but about the HPT 32 and what could possibly have been done before rejecting it outright. I thought this might be the best place to post the two articles.

The first is a pdf I have made from two pages of vayu international that speaks of what HAL should have done.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3JNY4IY8u2bV1hhV09NRUR3NVU/edit?usp=sharing

The second is also from vayu, also a pdf - an article by a maverick whom I admire - Prof Prodyut Das - who has a very interesting take on what could have gone wrong with the HPT 32 leading to its eventual rejection. I loved his take on this
http://www.vayuaerospace.in/2013_issue1/pdf/AnAlternateLogic.pdf
 

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mate,first of all welcome to this forum.but the first thing that you should do is to open a thread in the Members introduction section and introduce yourself to all the fellow members
I am sorry for that. But I am completely new and didn't know that we had to do that. :wave:
 

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Re: HAL pushes HTT-40 as light attack platform

This step is towards export of this aircraft, Many countries are looking for cheap CAS platforms ..

It is also possible IA may procure some of these ..
Then MOD should give go ahead to this project , because it can be used for anti naxal ops as well & Army for CAS

MOD/HAL should ignore IAF( Import Airforce ) :thumb: , and go ahead this aircraft can be good choice for CAS & Anti insurgency ops
 

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Yes, CRPF can use this aircraft for Recon and Attack as well as Army for Recon and Attack ..

Then MOD should give go ahead to this project , because it can be used for anti naxal ops as well & Army for CAS
 

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Yes, CRPF can use this aircraft for Recon and Attack as well as Army for Recon and Attack ..
It's better that the likes of CRPF, BSF, Army etc order dedicated COIN aircraft rather than go for a basic trainer in a role that it isn't designed for.
 

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No one is here talking about dedicated COIN aircraft, And no one is either advocating to induct COIN aircraft into various forces ..

What told here is an turboprop Aircraft have ability to reconnaissance and able to attack its target with wide range of ammo ..

HTT-40 is at same league of Super-Tucano and other turboprop strike air crafts, And all these mention air-crafts are also trainers ..

It's better that the likes of CRPF, BSF, Army etc order dedicated COIN aircraft rather than go for a basic trainer in a role that it isn't designed for.
 

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HAL turns up heat on HTT-40 Programme

March 7, 2015: Dealt a new lease of life after months of friction with the Indian Air Force, HAL's HTT-40 programme has got the necessary boost it needs to move quicker. A first flight of the basic trainer aircraft (BTA) is scheduled for June this year. The MoD has indicated that the HTT-40 will be produced to meet a requirement of at least 68 aircraft (another 38 to be supplied by Pilatus). The MoD has additionally indicated that further orders will be extended to ensure the project, funded fully by HAL through internal accruals, to ensure the costs are fully amortized. The Department of Defence Production, the parent department to HAL, has also asked HAL to pre-plan export of the aircraft and open discussions with interested countries and clubs that may want to import the aircraft. HAL will be studying how to market the aircraft, now just as a basic propeller trainer and leisure flying/aerobatics aircraft, but also for light strike and tactical reconnaissance on the lines of the Embraer Tucano. The HTT-40 was conspicuous by its absence at this year's Aero India after making its debut at the last show in 2013. Sources said that the first prototype at the HAL Airport was getting set for its first flight.
HAL turns up heat on HTT 40 Programme - SP’s Exculsive
 

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HAL TURNS UP HEAT ON HTT 40 PROGRAM

Dealt a new lease of life after months of friction with the Indian Air Force, HAL's HTT-40 program has got the necessary boost it needs to move quicker. A first flight of the basic trainer aircraft (BTA) is scheduled for June this year.

The MoD has indicated that the HTT-40 will be produced to meet a requirement of at least 68 aircraft (another 38 to be supplied by Pilatus). The MoD has additionally indicated that further orders will be extended to ensure the project, funded fully by HAL through internal accruals, to ensure the costs are fully amortized. The Department of Defence Production, the parent department to HAL, has also asked HAL to pre-plan export of the aircraft and open discussions with interested countries and clubs that may want to import the aircraft.

HAL will be studying how to market the aircraft, now just as a basic propeller trainer and leisure flying/aerobatics aircraft, but also for light strike and tactical reconnaissance on the lines of the Embraer Tucano. The HTT-40 was conspicuous by its absence at this year's Aero India after making its debut at the last show in 2013. Sources said that the first prototype at the HAL Airport was getting set for its first flight.

HAL turns up heat on HTT 40 Programme - SP’s Exculsive
 

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HAL Records Highest Turnover at Rs. 15,480 Crores; Produces Over 2000 Indigenized Items

Bengaluru, April 2, 2015:

HAL recorded the highest ever turnover of Rs. 15,480 crores (provisional) for the financial year 2014-15 as against Rs. 15,128 crores achieved in FY 2013-14. "Our performance is in line with the MoU signed with the Ministry of Defence and we expect `Excellent' rating for FY 2014-15.
Detailed design, jig fabrication and commissioning have been completed for HAL Basic Turboprop Trainer (HTT-40) and assembly activities have been initiated. Indigenous LCA has so far completed 2871 flights out of which 364 were carried out during 2014-15 for IAF variant. For naval variant of LCA, 43 flights have been completed and 24 flights were done in FY 2014-15. The critical design review for Mirage 2000 upgrade is also completed. Regarding Hindustan Turbo Fan Engine-25 (HTFE-25), detail design of the core engine is completed and assembly tools and required test setup /test bed is under progress. The medium thrust class engine finds wide application in military trainer aircraft, smaller regional jet and unmanned applications.
Source : Media Releases
 

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HAL's turnover figure is disappointing. Hope it improves under new boss. A large part of this turnover is Su-30 program. HAL has to be weaned away from screw-driver work (licensed manufacture) and become true aviation manufacturer with a line of its own products.

HAL has been slow on Dhruv program. The same slowness is showing up on LCA-Tejas program. The inability of HAL to deliver is resulting in high amounts of imports. It is possible to reduce imports only if local aviation industry matures.
 

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Re: HAL pushes HTT-40 as light attack platform

Finally a breather for HTT 40
MoD backs indigenous HAL trainer, air force to visit HAL for discussions

Also raising eyebrows within the MoD is the alacrity with which the IAF grounded the HPT-32 trainer after a fatal crash in 2009, creating a pilot training crisis that opened the door for the purchase of the Pilatus PC-7 Mark II.

The HPT-32 was labelled unsafe after 19 pilots were killed in 17 accidents over 23 years of flying, during which the HPT-32 logged 4,00,000 flight hours. That is less than one crash per year on average.

In contrast, the IAF continues to fly the MiG-21, despite a far more horrific safety record. In Jun 2003, then IAF head, Air Chief Marshal S Krishnaswamy, revealed that 98 MiG-21 crashes had occurred in 5,53,000 sorties between 1994-2003, claiming 43 lives --- a record twice as bad as the HPT-32.

Senior MoD officials are now questioning whether the HPT-32 was deliberately grounded to make way for foreign trainers. Grounding the MiG-21 would not have led to import. It would only have increased pressure on the IAF to order the Tejas LCA in larger numbers.
Even though this is old article,it shows how IAF encourages home grown products.
 

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2.5 billion USD turnover for a monopoly aviation company in a large country like India is not at all inspiring. The bad part of these numbers is that most of the turnover is in screw driver projects where local value addition is quite low.

The biggest job for MOD is to wean away HAL from screw driver projects and focus on its own line of products. Similarly IAF has to be weaned away from imports.

We are tired waiting for LCA Tejas series produced air-crafts. What is happening at HAL? It seems targets and deadlines have no value at HAL. IAF is unlikely to get convinced to order more unless first squadron is in place. HAL has to prove it can deliver. The rate of production is very important.
 

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