High Speed Railway Corridor

[abhi_the _gr8_maratha]

just waiting for a congressi or didi's reply. We are non violence so we oppose BULLET train. Bjp is violent so they are starting BULLET train to kill minorities.

 

[SLASH]

I don't see many passengers boarding train at Vapi, Valsad. Most of people are from Surat, Vadodara and Ahmedabad. I don't know much about Maharashtra but don't you think having lots of stops would increase travelling time ?

Most small-medium scale businessman based in Mumbai and having units in Gujarat have there units based mostly in South Gujarat. I travel twice a week by train and know that most of the people alight at Vapi. Vapi station is not only for people in Vapi but also for Silvasa, Daman, Pardi and Valsad. All of them combined there are thousands of small, medium and large industrial units. If there is an HSR connecting Vapi or Valsad I can think of travelling 4-5 times a week instead of twice a week at the moment. It is good for business and also for my social and family life as I can save travel time and spend the same with my family and friends. At the moment I spend 8 hours in traveling every time I go to Vapi or Valsad.

I know many diamond merchants who will use the bullet trains on a daily basis. It would provide a safe, quick and convenient transit to them. Since the diamond bourse has shifted from South Mumbai to BKC (which is the first station for the HSR), it will be a boon for them. It will increase the speed at which things can be done.

As far as travel time is concerned, I have travelled in Chinese HSR, and even they have a stop every 50 kms.

 

[cobra commando]

L&T to bid for bullet train project

Larsen & Toubro (L&T) is gearing up to bid for the government's ambitious bullet train project, its Executive Chairman A. M. Naik, said on Friday. "We will certainly participate in the bidding of the bullet train project. We are already in talks with global bullet train manufacturers and technology suppliers for tie-ups. We will be much ahead than others when the project comes for bidding. We will target that project," Mr. Naik told shareholders at the company's 69 annual general meeting (AGM) here. He was responding to a shareholder's query. He said that L&T had emerged as the lowest price bidder for the Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel's Statue of Unity project in Gujarat though the contract was yet to be awarded. The company is also expecting bigger opportunities from infrastructure projects, including metro rail. "We have also won two major prestigious contracts in the Middle East, for Riyadh and Doha Metro projects during financial year 2014, contributing significantly to the order inflow growth during the year. We are participating in bidding for further such prospects in the region," he added. He said the thrust on strengthening the rail network held good prospects for the company's railways business. "We have already secured an initial order of Rs.7,000 crore in consortium with a Japanese company for a major section of the Dedicated Freight Corridor, and are bidding for more packages and we are expecting total orders of Rs.20,000 crore. We are also exploring international markets, especially the Gulf countries," Mr. Naik added. On the outlook he said despite continuing slowdown, macro environment had shown early signs of recovery. With the dawn of a stable government the economy would improve gradually during this year.
L&T to bid for bullet train project - The Hindu

 

[Srinivas_K]

India considers magnetic levitation technology for high speed trains
India has taken the first step towards running a truly high speed train by opting for magnetic levitation (Maglev) technology under which the screech of the wheel hitting the track is obviated as the train floats at high speeds a few inches over the track.

Thus India will avoid emulating Chile and some other countries that have been running refurbished versions at higher than currently prevailing speeds on the same track.

Rather, the country is fashioning a new game altogether, said a Railway officer specialising in design. Running on dedicated tracks, the trains will come in complete sets: there will be engine cabs at both ends and non-detachable coaches in the middle. This will eliminate the swaying motion Indian travellers are accustomed to.

The trains will have under carriages placed in a way that one axle and two wheels come under one coach and the rest under the next one, thus guaranteeing rapid fire acceleration.

The snub-nosed engines, super shiny outer hull and windows merged with the coach body are some of the features that will cut air resistance, the Railway official said. With cars to be allowed right next to the platform, passengers can park in front of the allocated coach.

As the train surges to its top speed, WiFi and mobile phone connections will continue to work seamlessly, for the entire ecosystem is electronics-intensive and microprocessor controlled so much so that wayside signals rushing past the train will be reflected on the locomotive's control panel.

Instead of the no-option, tepid railway meals, orders could be placed at well-known food chains willing to cater to these trains. One SMS and food will be available at the next intermediate station.

But before this, there is hard work ahead. The Economic Survey has warned that high tariff and large passenger volumes are required to justify investment in the project, which is highly capital intensive in nature.

During his Japan visit and interaction here with the Chinese, Prime Minister Narendra Modi will be exploring complete financing options at close to zero interest rates. Simultaneously, the Railways will work on reducing overhead costs through property development and other means.

If all goes well, India will join the club of two dozen countries running ultra high speed trains. For a country which figures in the first few in having an aircraft carrier, a full fledged space and nuclear programme and an ongoing mission to Mars, this will be better late than never.

India considers magnetic levitation technology for high speed trains - The Hindu

 

[Ray]

Re: India considers magnetic levitation technology for high speed trai

Good thing for India.

 

[Daredevil]

Re: India considers magnetic levitation technology for high speed trai

Sweet dreams of some Railway officer. Come out of dreams & take some action. Do something that is immediately possible & then talk but not talk about something that will happen 20 years later.

 

[Srinivas_K]

Re: India considers magnetic levitation technology for high speed trai

Sweet dreams of some Railway officer. Come out of dreams & take some action. Do something that is immediately possible & then talk but not talk about something that will happen 20 years later.

Maglev trains is also a issue that will be discussed in the upcoming Modi's visit to Japan. India and Japan are co operating in this field.

Japanese Maglev hit 500 km/hr mark

 

[kenduffy]

Re: India considers magnetic levitation technology for high speed trai

India considers magnetic levitation technology for high speed trains
India has taken the first step towards running a truly high speed train by opting for magnetic levitation (Maglev) technology under which the screech of the wheel hitting the track is obviated as the train floats at high speeds a few inches over the track.

Thus India will avoid emulating Chile and some other countries that have been running refurbished versions at higher than currently prevailing speeds on the same track.

Rather, the country is fashioning a new game altogether, said a Railway officer specialising in design. Running on dedicated tracks, the trains will come in complete sets: there will be engine cabs at both ends and non-detachable coaches in the middle. This will eliminate the swaying motion Indian travellers are accustomed to.

The trains will have under carriages placed in a way that one axle and two wheels come under one coach and the rest under the next one, thus guaranteeing rapid fire acceleration.

The snub-nosed engines, super shiny outer hull and windows merged with the coach body are some of the features that will cut air resistance, the Railway official said. With cars to be allowed right next to the platform, passengers can park in front of the allocated coach.

As the train surges to its top speed, WiFi and mobile phone connections will continue to work seamlessly, for the entire ecosystem is electronics-intensive and microprocessor controlled so much so that wayside signals rushing past the train will be reflected on the locomotive's control panel.

Instead of the no-option, tepid railway meals, orders could be placed at well-known food chains willing to cater to these trains. One SMS and food will be available at the next intermediate station.

But before this, there is hard work ahead. The Economic Survey has warned that high tariff and large passenger volumes are required to justify investment in the project, which is highly capital intensive in nature.

During his Japan visit and interaction here with the Chinese, Prime Minister Narendra Modi will be exploring complete financing options at close to zero interest rates. Simultaneously, the Railways will work on reducing overhead costs through property development and other means.

If all goes well, India will join the club of two dozen countries running ultra high speed trains. For a country which figures in the first few in having an aircraft carrier, a full fledged space and nuclear programme and an ongoing mission to Mars, this will be better late than never.

India considers magnetic levitation technology for high speed trains - The Hindu

better not build such trains,
in China, such trains are protested against by ppl coz they are not good

 

[Srinivas_K]

Re: India considers magnetic levitation technology for high speed trai

better not build such trains,
in China, such trains are protested against by ppl coz they are not good

They are on par with air travel and are cheaper. They work well in selected routes not in every route.

 

[kenduffy]

Re: India considers magnetic levitation technology for high speed trai

They are on par with air travel and are cheaper. They work well in selected routes not in every route.

not good for health and environment, thus they protest and the government gave up the plan

 

[Srinivas_K]

Re: India considers magnetic levitation technology for high speed trai

not good for health and environment, thus they protest and the government gave up the plan

These protests are because of poor Chinese safety norms, Chinese standards are 22.5 M where as German standard is 300 M.

The Shanghai scheme has a buffer zone around the track that will be 22.5 m wide, which compares unfavourably with German standards that require houses to be 300 m away from the line.[6] Representatives of the residents filed a formal request to demonstrate with the Shanghai Public Security Bureau, which was rejected.

 

[kenduffy]

Re: India considers magnetic levitation technology for high speed trai

These protests are because of poor Chinese safety norms, Chinese standards are 22.5 M where as German standard is 300 M.

these protests are not in Shanghai, but in Shenzhen
the shanghai-hangzhou maglev project with 22.5m concerns was suspended due to the protests and concerns

when a french train crash, korean train crash, you would think it is just a accident
when a chinese train crash, you would say "ah, China poor quality" blabla

 

[kenduffy]

Re: India considers magnetic levitation technology for high speed trai

These protests are because of poor Chinese safety norms, Chinese standards are 22.5 M where as German standard is 300 M.

Japan Gov't OKs plan to to build maglev line, despite environmental concerns
Gov't OKs plan to to build maglev line, despite environmental concerns "¹ Japan Today: Japan News and Discussion

However, Ota also voiced concern about the environmental impact that the construction and long-term operation of the maglev rail would have. He urged JR Tokai to make effective use of waste soil and keep local residents in the loop about construction plans, TBS reported.

 

[p2prada]

Re: India considers magnetic levitation technology for high speed trai

not good for health and environment, thus they protest and the government gave up the plan

What makes you think what we have today is good for the environment?

 

[p2prada]

Re: India considers magnetic levitation technology for high speed trai

Japan Gov't OKs plan to to build maglev line, despite environmental concerns
Gov't OKs plan to to build maglev line, despite environmental concerns "¹ Japan Today: Japan News and Discussion

However, Ota also voiced concern about the environmental impact that the construction and long-term operation of the maglev rail would have. He urged JR Tokai to make effective use of waste soil and keep local residents in the loop about construction plans, TBS reported.

It's fine. Unlike Japan, our railways build most of their lines through very barren areas. So, there is no environment concern of the sort faced in Japan.

This is from the deserts of Rajasthan.

Madhya Pradesh

Jungles of Maharashtra

We have plenty of use for displaced soil.

And maglevs and bullet trains are more environment friendly than aircraft.

 

[kenduffy]

Re: India considers magnetic levitation technology for high speed trai

It's fine. Unlike Japan, our railways build most of their lines through very barren areas. So, there is no environment concern of the sort faced in Japan.

This is from the deserts of Rajasthan.


Madhya Pradesh


Jungles of Maharashtra


We have plenty of use for displaced soil.

And maglevs and bullet trains are more environment friendly than aircraft.

dude, those environment concerns are about when the Maglev passes some residence building.
yes, a large part of the route is not near residence buildings, but some is

 

[p2prada]

Re: India considers magnetic levitation technology for high speed trai

dude, those environment concerns are about when the Maglev passes some residence building.

What is the concern?

- Smoke? Pollution?

Anything is better than this.

- Littering? (People throwing junk from trains)

Image from Nairobi.

High speed trains come with sealed doors and windows eliminating littering.

- Animal and human victims while crossing tracks illegally?

Maglevs come on elevated platforms. Animals and humans can cross safely under the tracks.

- Too much noise?

You have to check out how loud our current trains are.

Most of the noise comes from the engine, the horn and the friction on the tracks. Maglevs are silent as there is no noise from the engine and friction from tracks. Horns can be eliminated since tracks are elevated and traffic cannot come in the way.

Maglevs also eliminate the need to use fossil fuels for engines. So the impact on the environment is drastically reduced compared to what we have today.

So, what was this environmental concern you were talking about?

 

[Compersion]

Re: India considers magnetic levitation technology for high speed trai

I am wishing the present government takes the railways and makes a revolution and upgrade. It's such a big opportunity and potential

 

[kenduffy]

Re: India considers magnetic levitation technology for high speed trai

Maglevs also eliminate the need to use fossil fuels for engines. So the impact on the environment is drastically reduced compared to what we have today.

So, what was this environmental concern you were talking about?

if no concern, why do they protest?

 

[p2prada]

Re: India considers magnetic levitation technology for high speed trai

if no concern, why do they protest?

Because the maglev they have planned is just 10 m away from residential areas. It is a China-specific issue. It won't affect India.