But FN MAG is a 7.62 machine gun, it isn't 50 Cal, doesn't HMG mean 50 cal guns like M2 Browning and DsHK etc..OFB provided its GPMG in matter of 3 months when asked for, Modified FN MAG ..
Yes. 7.62mm is MMG. HMGs waste ammunition. Though .50 cals have better penetration, but we have Carl Gustaf for blowing up.But FN MAG is a 7.62 machine gun, it isn't 50 Cal, doesn't HMG mean 50 cal guns like M2 Browning and DsHK etc..
Thanks and welcome to DFI,Yes. 7.62mm is MMG. HMGs waste ammunition. Though .50 cals have better penetration, but we have Carl Gustaf for blowing up.
They do build this though http://ofb.gov.in/products/data/weapons/wsc/add_33.htmThanks and welcome to DFI,
Does OFB produce .50cal HMG ?? Probably a russian one ??
That is NSV, which is locally produced in India, do they still produce it in OFB ??They do build this though http://ofb.gov.in/products/data/weapons/wsc/add_33.htm
I dont know that. But we do produce KPVThat is NSV, which is locally produced in India, do they still produce it in OFB ??
Because, its outdated and russians are replacing them with Kord 12.7mm HMG
Sir do we still produce NSV ? 12.7mm ?The got order and later on cancelled which are not published on open source ..
Their is no problem in providing HMG to Infantry as same HMG are being manufactured for tanks in India ..
OFB provided its GPMG in matter of 3 months when asked for, Modified FN MAG ..
I have observed that pak army and IA have developed slightly different TOEs for infantry battalions.Yes. 7.62mm is MMG. HMGs waste ammunition. Though .50 cals have better penetration, but we have Carl Gustaf for blowing up.
Sir do we still produce NSV ? 12.7mm ?
Indian army is accuracy centric, which is wht Indian army does not use GPMGs like MG 3, M 249, PK. Indian army does not even use Bren Gun with 100 round Pan Magazine. You can say it would make barrel overheated, but it is a problem common with air cooled guns. Giving soldiers extra water pouches to cool down red hot barrels will easily allow Bren Gunners to fire constantly from 100 round Pan magazines. Even INSAS which uses 5.56mm because 7.62mm was too big for recoil in full automatic, does noot have a full auto mode.I have observed that pak army and IA have developed slightly different TOEs for infantry battalions.
We do not have have fixed RCLs (Spg-9) nor HMGs at battalion level. On other hand PA soldiers are equipped with RPG-7 as well. They also don't have equiv of marksmen rifle like SVD and galatz.
I am not saying they are better equipped. But there is a difference and I am just curious why they evolved differently.
Your facts are not right in this context. INSAS has been built around 5.56 as per IA wish. Its design is doctrine based.Even INSAS which uses 5.56mm because 7.62mm was too big for recoil in full automatic, does noot have a full auto mode.
Yup but it would be better if INSAS had full auto mode. Americans switched to 5.56mm because 7.62mm was too big for full auto. Russians to 5.45mm because of this. But Indian army did not. Purpose of having lighter round is to have better accuracy during full auto mode.Your facts are not right in this context. INSAS has been built around 5.56 as per IA wish. Its design is doctrine based.
Go to INSAS thread for better understanding of INSAS development. Anyway a snip of it is, IA had asked for 5.56 round so that it could only injure rather then blowing off the enemy. Main reason for it was the fact that it would require 4 soldiers to carry the injured out of the battle field in turn effectively declining their fighting strength. The idea was not to fire in Full Auto mode or 3 round Burst mode.Yup but it would be better if INSAS had full auto mode. Americans switched to 5.56mm because 7.62mm was too big for full auto. Russians to 5.45mm because of this. But Indian army did not. Purpose of having lighter round is to have better accuracy during full auto mode.
I have observed that pak army and IA have developed slightly different TOEs for infantry battalions.
We do not have have fixed RCLs (Spg-9) nor HMGs at battalion level. On other hand PA soldiers are equipped with RPG-7 as well. They also don't have equiv of marksmen rifle like SVD and galatz.
I am not saying they are better equipped. But there is a difference and I am just curious why they evolved differently.
Their approach is more defensive then offensive, Indian Army on other hand focus primarily on mobility of solider and demand on light equipment.
The difference is clearly can be seen in even small formation of both armies, One use MG3 other use bren MG, In Indian Army individual solider from squad use bren and carry its ammunition on its own, On other hand Pakistani Army have MG crew even in squad who carry its ammunition and other equipment, Their squad is around Machine guns crews and platoon is around MG squads, The idea is to provide suppressive fire in interlocking firezone, ( MG-3 is not a accurate weapon but a very fast firing gun design for suppresive fire, It eats away 100rnd belt in just 4 burst within 5 secs, It also need to change barrel when used very frequently, Crew always carry spare barrels with them, In combat changing barrel and feeding ammunition frequently is a big headache for any MG crew ).
The whole idea of defense is around MGs, Other mostly in squad are busy supplying ammunition to MG for continues firing and when this MG and its crew is taken out, The other member of squad basically have nothing else to do but have two options in sense of task and as well as physiologically.
1. Stand ground and defend with issued rifle.
2. Retreat and regroup.
Mostly the latter is always in motion, As seen in Kargil war.
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Indian Army on other hand issues rifle to every soldier and LMG / RL / Mortar to specific soldiers depends on situation, When in combat everyone in the squad aims unlike one or two from other side with just MG, Even with Bren a solider can snipe ( shoot at someone from a hiding place, especially accurately and at long range) , So even one or three are down other will continue the battle both in defense and offense.
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