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Our country India is a joke of the defense world being a senior member you must know it.
Give Kashmir to Pakistan
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I had written this in 2009 for echarcha.com , but i feel this is still relevant to this thread.....
Tensions with pakistan should be a permanent state of affairs--my own mad theory.
yeah i feel so.
consider the case of bangladesh.before it was created ie when it was east pakistan the border with it was relatively well guarded compared to at least today.
with the creation of bangladesh that country became a supposed 'friend' and the border with it began to be neglected. today only 17000 BSF personnel guard the border roughly ,actually slightly less than half the sanctioned force of 35000.actually even 35000 is not enough.
this has allowed massive amount of so called refugees to enter the country at will. there is hardly any army to guard that boundary.
the BSF have been given orders to not shoot at anybody on this border as bangladeshis are our ' friends '.
so they are helpless in stopping the influx of ' refugees'. if they try to stop them they are physically attacked and mauled and with the order not to shoot at the ' refugees ' are unable to even protect themselves.
this has allowed practically unchecked influx of bangladeshis into india.
the bordering districts of bengal have shown large increases of muslim population over the years. obviously this has been encouraged......massively so by the communist govt of west bengal to increase what it sees as a captive vote bank....though that perception has been belied in the current elections.
in assam it has been worse as here the demography has been completely changed across the state. an estimated 40% of the population is now muslim in assam. it is not impossible that the population will become majority muslim in assam in the future.this has been encouraged by both the congress and the asom gana parishad, both accusing the other of encouraging bangladeshis to come in the state and then doing exactly that when they come to power.
worse , over the years the bangladeshis that have come in recent years have been increasingly radicalised over the years and are clearly implicated in numerous acts of terrorism in india. radical outfits like HUJI have sown terror in india.
yet nothing at all is being done to stop this by the central govt.the bangladeshis in india are estimated to be some 40 million.
which brings me to the question of pakistan.
let us suppose the kashmir problem is solved to both sides satisfaction.
tensions along the border cease.
immediately our govt will declare pak to be our ' friend '.pseudointellectuals like mahesh bhatt will demand 'greater people to people interaction across the border ' and all that stuff.
the army, which at the moment maintains a strict vigil across the border wiil over the years be asked to relax it, especially if for several years there is no exchange of firing on the border. the border could be more and more open like that of bangladesh.
this will only allow the pakistanis to arrive in the numbers to escape the drudgery of extreme poverty in pakistan and take advantage of indias economic success. this obviously will be encouraged by our ' secular ' politicians to increase their vote bank. over the years these people will be given voter icards and will be 'legalised' to make them vote for pseudosecular parties just like bangladeshis have been similarly ' legalised'.
worse, these pakis will be influenced by crazed talibani ideas much more than bangladeshis and try to force their austere version of islam in the areas they settle in. they will be inculcated with ideas of hatred to hindus much more than the bangladeshis are . communal riots and bomb blasts will be a natural corrolary to all this. these people will be far more tougher than hindus and hindus will be forced go away and settle in other areas making large areas ' hindu free '. this can especially occur in bordering states like punjab rajasthan and gujrat.
all under the benign eye of the pseudoscular establishment., of course.
thus we might see a whole new picture in the country.
under these circumstances isnt it better that tensions with pak should be a permanent state of affairs ?
to be sure there will be a constant tension on the border. acts of terrorism will occur. the military budget will be kept high draining precious resources.
but surely that is better than large areas of the country becoming muslim dominated.
in fact the tensions will force us to remain on guard to protect india.otherwise it is our practise to let down our guard at the slightest hint of peace while others dont.
with peace we might reduce our miltary capabilities while pak may not do so,our politicoes will go to sleep until pak feels confident of taking on india and suddenly ' wakes ' them from their slumber.
already china has done this once, i need not remind you.
in fact tensions will force us to remain on the alert to protect ourselves.
otherwise our attitude is to relax and do nothing until it is too late.
for a nation of ' sleepers ' on national security issues it is better that constant tensions keep us burning the midnight oil.
under these circumstances i want to advance my own little mad theory-- tensions with pakistan should be a permanent state of affairs .
What say ?
Tensions with pakistan should be a permanent state of affairs--my own mad theory.
yeah i feel so.
consider the case of bangladesh.before it was created ie when it was east pakistan the border with it was relatively well guarded compared to at least today.
with the creation of bangladesh that country became a supposed 'friend' and the border with it began to be neglected. today only 17000 BSF personnel guard the border roughly ,actually slightly less than half the sanctioned force of 35000.actually even 35000 is not enough.
this has allowed massive amount of so called refugees to enter the country at will. there is hardly any army to guard that boundary.
the BSF have been given orders to not shoot at anybody on this border as bangladeshis are our ' friends '.
so they are helpless in stopping the influx of ' refugees'. if they try to stop them they are physically attacked and mauled and with the order not to shoot at the ' refugees ' are unable to even protect themselves.
this has allowed practically unchecked influx of bangladeshis into india.
the bordering districts of bengal have shown large increases of muslim population over the years. obviously this has been encouraged......massively so by the communist govt of west bengal to increase what it sees as a captive vote bank....though that perception has been belied in the current elections.
in assam it has been worse as here the demography has been completely changed across the state. an estimated 40% of the population is now muslim in assam. it is not impossible that the population will become majority muslim in assam in the future.this has been encouraged by both the congress and the asom gana parishad, both accusing the other of encouraging bangladeshis to come in the state and then doing exactly that when they come to power.
worse , over the years the bangladeshis that have come in recent years have been increasingly radicalised over the years and are clearly implicated in numerous acts of terrorism in india. radical outfits like HUJI have sown terror in india.
yet nothing at all is being done to stop this by the central govt.the bangladeshis in india are estimated to be some 40 million.
which brings me to the question of pakistan.
let us suppose the kashmir problem is solved to both sides satisfaction.
tensions along the border cease.
immediately our govt will declare pak to be our ' friend '.pseudointellectuals like mahesh bhatt will demand 'greater people to people interaction across the border ' and all that stuff.
the army, which at the moment maintains a strict vigil across the border wiil over the years be asked to relax it, especially if for several years there is no exchange of firing on the border. the border could be more and more open like that of bangladesh.
this will only allow the pakistanis to arrive in the numbers to escape the drudgery of extreme poverty in pakistan and take advantage of indias economic success. this obviously will be encouraged by our ' secular ' politicians to increase their vote bank. over the years these people will be given voter icards and will be 'legalised' to make them vote for pseudosecular parties just like bangladeshis have been similarly ' legalised'.
worse, these pakis will be influenced by crazed talibani ideas much more than bangladeshis and try to force their austere version of islam in the areas they settle in. they will be inculcated with ideas of hatred to hindus much more than the bangladeshis are . communal riots and bomb blasts will be a natural corrolary to all this. these people will be far more tougher than hindus and hindus will be forced go away and settle in other areas making large areas ' hindu free '. this can especially occur in bordering states like punjab rajasthan and gujrat.
all under the benign eye of the pseudoscular establishment., of course.
thus we might see a whole new picture in the country.
under these circumstances isnt it better that tensions with pak should be a permanent state of affairs ?
to be sure there will be a constant tension on the border. acts of terrorism will occur. the military budget will be kept high draining precious resources.
but surely that is better than large areas of the country becoming muslim dominated.
in fact the tensions will force us to remain on guard to protect india.otherwise it is our practise to let down our guard at the slightest hint of peace while others dont.
with peace we might reduce our miltary capabilities while pak may not do so,our politicoes will go to sleep until pak feels confident of taking on india and suddenly ' wakes ' them from their slumber.
already china has done this once, i need not remind you.
in fact tensions will force us to remain on the alert to protect ourselves.
otherwise our attitude is to relax and do nothing until it is too late.
for a nation of ' sleepers ' on national security issues it is better that constant tensions keep us burning the midnight oil.
under these circumstances i want to advance my own little mad theory-- tensions with pakistan should be a permanent state of affairs .
What say ?
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And still the goat fuckers on the Western border couldn't take a single inch in 30 years. Why do you think that is?
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Bhai, he is a false flagger, do you think any Indian could imagine or say that India begs for weapons , reality is that the world begs us to buy weapons, they don't want to do ToT, true but they will do anything to sell us weapons.
and the way this guy talks so reverently about CPEC and Superpower China, even Chinese don't speak like that, only Paki turdlickers do.
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So what do we make housing?
Manufactured isn't domestic. Those are russian motors given to India as a GIFT.
What do we make? Frames, Doors for plane. That too was canceled by Boing. Like I said you being a senior member must know about how horrible we are at military technology.
Some countries? Is China getting gifts? No. Pakistan is a small country with small GDP so they have no choice but to accept Gifts. Why India is stooping down at Paki level? Why can't we be like Super power China?
We received many GIFTS or BHEEKH from USSR and Russia. Now we trying to get gifts from west.
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Chinese economy is No 1
Here is the source.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)
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A "joke" defeated porkistani mullahs 4 times.
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You should go to china then.......................
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Just look at this don t compare PPP with GDP Nominal you retard .. And do you see where india stand s and where those other western countries who are gifting us weapons stand
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W
We are a nation of 1.3 billion people. Our $2 trillion economy is a joke compared to Japan, Germany, China and USA. We don't even have enough toilets for our people here in India.
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@Dark Lord Dude why are the goat fuckers not taking Kashmir? Come on bro, we need to discuss this. What are they scared of?
@captscooby81 @Hemu Vikram Aditya @Kshatriya87 Guys, stop ruining my favorite thread.
@captscooby81 @Hemu Vikram Aditya @Kshatriya87 Guys, stop ruining my favorite thread.
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ha ha ha Dude looks like you are someone suffering with constipation and not having toilet in your place .. Please write to your Paki friends they will come and help you build one and wash your shit a@@@... bloody China boot licker baki ...
The biggest joke my friend is you beggars Baki who are always looking for Alms from Amerika and now from China .. Life long beggars .. Don t worry about our economy go and start exporting donkey s to china i heard that s the only thing which is available plenty in pakistan which i understood after seeing your post my dear friend ...
The biggest joke my friend is you beggars Baki who are always looking for Alms from Amerika and now from China .. Life long beggars .. Don t worry about our economy go and start exporting donkey s to china i heard that s the only thing which is available plenty in pakistan which i understood after seeing your post my dear friend ...
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Aren't they already getting water? If Pak behaves nice with us we would definitely give them all the water they need. Why ask Kashmir for this?
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Who knows why but maybe because Pakistan doesn't want war with India.
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But why? Pakistan is bestest cuntry in the world and people of Kashmir are with them.
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look at the msp of indus,...........it icovers the entire pakistan ....
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Like I said if pak behaves nice India will give them water. India Has enough. so why do they want Kashmir?
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