F-18 Advanced Super Hornet

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Frontal view of Rafale in combat config:

Another set-up:

Yet another set-up:

F-35A combat config:
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I think it's the F-35A that looks like a Ferrari and the Rafale like a Mitsubishi pick-up truck in real world combat configurations...
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99% of flying hours are made or without weapons, or with only AtoA missile. F35 is as large as a truck all day long. This is why it has a huge IR trace (THAT WAS THE INITIAL QUESTION : IR trace)

 

[Screambowl]

India is not going to buy and american birds. That's for sure. These types of threads are only good for a techy discussion that's all

 

[asianobserve]

99% of flying hours are made or without weapons, or with only AtoA missile. F35 is as large as a truck all day long. This is why it has a huge IR trace (THAT WAS THE INITIAL QUESTION : IR trace)

You were not talking about IR signature above. You were talking about aerodynamics of F-35 versus Rafale. Your premise was that the F-35 is a fat aircraft hence it is less aerodynamic than the Rafale. I showed pictures of Rafale when it is loaded for combat which is not very aerodynamic since it has to carry everything externally. All these external fuel, racks, bombs, missiles, targeting pods that Rafale carries when it goes into combat have severe aerodynamic penalties. The F-35 on the other hand since it is designed to carry its weapons internally is aerodynamically better than Rafale.

BTW, Rafale, like all 4th gen fighters, without its external stores is useless in combat roles since it will only carry cannon.

 

[garg_bharat]

India is not going to buy and american birds. That's for sure. These types of threads are only good for a techy discussion that's all

India bought transports, then combat helicopters; I think next step is combat planes.

There is not much problem except some "agreements" which Americans can waive if Congress agrees.

 

[BON PLAN]

Frontal view of Rafale in combat config:

Another set-up:

Yet another set-up:

F-35A combat config:
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I think it's the F-35A that looks like a Ferrari and the Rafale like a Mitsubishi pick-up truck in real world combat configurations...
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99% of flying hours are made or without weapons, or with only AtoA missile. F35 is as large as a truck all day long. This is why it has a huge IR trace (THAT WAS THE INITIAL QUESTION : IR trace)

 

[BON PLAN]

You were not talking about IR signature above. You were talking about aerodynamics of F-35 versus Rafale. Your premise was that the F-35 is a fat aircraft hence it is less aerodynamic than the Rafale. I showed pictures of Rafale when it is loaded for combat which is not very aerodynamic since it has to carry everything externally. All these external fuel, racks, bombs, missiles, targeting pods that Rafale carries when it goes into combat have severe aerodynamic penalties. The F-35 on the other hand since it is designed to carry its weapons internally is aerodynamically better than Rafale.

BTW, Rafale, like all 4th gen fighters, without its external stores is useless in combat roles since it will only carry cannon.

F35 don't carry as much load than Rafale.
And F35 is maybe better when fully internally loaded against a Rafale with same external store. Except that config, Rafale much better.
F35 is like a truck, on the road 99% without load, but always with its infamous aerodynamical aspect.

 

[WolfPack86]

Boeing unveils Australia's first EA-18G Growler eletronic attack aircraft
Boeing and the U.S. Navy today extended advanced airborne electronic attack (AEA) capability to a key U.S. ally, presenting the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) with its first EA-18G Growler. Australia is the first country other than the U.S. to obtain this aircraft

The Growlers will complement our existing and future air combat capability, and we will be much more lethal with this AEA protection,” said Air Marshal Geoff Brown, former chief of the RAAF. “In many respects, it’s the final piece of the jigsaw puzzle for the RAAF.”


A derivative of the F/A-18 Super Hornet, EA-18G is the only aircraft in production providing tactical jamming and electronic protection. The Growlers enhance the RAAF’s current fleet – which includes 24 Super Hornets – and advance ‘Plan Jericho,’ an initiative to transform the RAAF into an integrated, networked force able to deliver air power in all operating environments.

“Today, we celebrate enduring partnerships with the RAAF, U.S. Navy and our industry team,” said Chris Chadwick, Defense, Space & Security president and CEO. “The U.S. Navy, RAAF and Boeing’s continued investment and innovation mean the Growler is not only the world’s premier electronic attack platform today, but will remain so for many decades to come.”

The Growler will fly to Naval Air Station China Lake, Calif. for flight testing and then Naval Air Station Whidbey Island, Wash., where RAAF operators will continue training with U.S. Navy pilots to gain expertise in the highly technical electronic warfare mission. The RAAF is expected to take delivery of the aircraft in-country in 2017.

“Growlers are the cutting edge of electronic warfare,” said Rear Admiral Donald Gaddis, U.S. Navy Program Executive Officer for Tactical Aircraft Programs. “As the U.S. Navy and RAAF continue to train and operate together we welcome Australia’s strategic step to advance the capabilities of our joint partners for years of future success.”

In June 2014, Boeing was awarded the contract for 12 Growlers to be acquired by the RAAF under a foreign military sales agreement with the U.S. Navy. For more than eight decades, Australia has collaborated with Boeing and its heritage companies on defense capability development, acquisition and support. The nation currently flies Boeing aircraft that include the E-7A Wedgetail Airborne Early Warning & Control, C-17 Globemaster III and CH-47F Chinook, in addition to the Hornet and Super Hornet. Boeing Defence Australia provides lifecycle sustainment services for the RAAF’s Super Hornets, C-17s, Wedgetails and other Boeing and non-Boeing platforms, and is a leading provider of complex network solutions for the Australian Defence Force.
http://www.airrecognition.com/index...ea-18g-growler-eletronic-attack-aircraft.html

 

[WolfPack86]

Boeing - EA-18G Growler Airborne Electronic Attack Aircraft

 

[WolfPack86]

With rafale deal is uncertain it is better to go for f 18 advance super hornet.

 

[WolfPack86]

If we buy f 18 advance super hornet we can also buy growler.

 

[WolfPack86]

DRS to Upgrade US Navy and RAAF EA-18 Growler with New JTT-R System
DRS Technologies Inc., a Finmeccanica Company, announced today that it has been awarded access to an indefinite-delivery/indefinite-quantity contract for the production and delivery of up to 180 Joint Tactical Terminal-Receivers (JTT-R) for U.S. Navy and Australian EA-18G aircraft. The contract is valued up to $12 million and will include JTT-R production engineering, test set racks, fixtures and tooling.

The JTT-R is an ultra-high-frequency receiver that provides near real-time, over the horizon threat data for situational awareness and assessment, threat avoidance, targeting, mission planning and communications.

The contract combines purchases for the U.S. Navy and the government of Australia, under the Foreign Military Sales program. The Naval Surface Warfare Center, Crane Division, in Indiana is the contracting agency.

DRS has been developing the JTT-R system since 2009 for the Navy’s E/A-18G “Growler” as a replacement to the legacy Multi-mission Advanced Tactical Terminal, which is nearing its end-of-life with the impending transition to the common interactive broadcast waveform. The U.S. Navy’s EA-18G “Growler” is a variant of the combat-proven F/A-18F Super Hornet Block II that conducts Airborne Electronic Attack (AEA) missions.

“We are proud to provide this key intelligence capability to the U.S. and Australian EA-18G fleets,” said Sally Wallace, president of the DRS Technologies C4ISR business group. “Its critical threat, targeting and mission planning data provides improved communications for delivering a distinct advantage to U.S. Navy and Australian “Growler” aviators flying the most advanced naval airborne electronic attack platform in the world,” Wallace added.

The EA-18G Growler, is an electronic attack aircraft combining the newly developed jamming capability upgrades of the EA-6B Prowler with the tactical versatility, advancements and capabilities of the Block II Super Hornet.

F/A-18 Hornets, Super Hornets and EA-18G Growlers currently operate in forty-three (43) U.S. Navy and eleven (11) U.S. Marine Corps Strike Fighter and Electronic Attack Squadrons from carriers and air stations worldwide. There are an additional fourteen (14) squadrons carrying out training, test, reserve and flight demonstration duties. In addition, international business customers include Canada, Spain, Finland, Kuwait, Malaysia, Switzerland and Australia, all who fly the F/A-18 Hornet. Australia has also purchased the F/A-18 Super Hornet and EA-18G Growler.
http://www.navyrecognition.com/inde...raaf-ea-18-growler-with-new-jtt-r-system.html

 

[WolfPack86]

EA-18G Growler US Navy

 

[WolfPack86]

Boeing's Growler: Staying off the Radar

 

[HariPrasad-1]

The problem with the super hornet is that it is a too old deign. It can do in today's date what after 10 years? Will it be good enough? On other hand if w go for rafale than it will remain contemporary for atleast next 20 years.

 

[Zebra]

F35 don't carry as much load than Rafale.
And F35 is maybe better when fully internally loaded against a Rafale with same external store. Except that config, Rafale much better.
F35 is like a truck, on the road 99% without load, but always with its infamous aerodynamical aspect.

Sir, Rafale much better for you, we are happy with our ASH, Gripen and Tejas .

And who cares about F-35 being a truck or not.

Let France design this type of "truck", then we will talk. What say ....!

 

[WolfPack86]

I am talking about f 18 advance super hornet not super hornet. Besides f 18 advance super hornet can also remain for next 20 years. US Navy planing to procure more advance super hornet until f 35 is ready. Where as rafale to costly. Now India Law Ministry objecting rafale deal. I am posting some links and details f 18 super hornet remain beyond 2030

The Super Hornet could be considered a sleeper of the aerospace industry. Through its gradual spiral development, the F/A-18E/F has quietly become a devastating force for the United States and its allies. It offers real and immediate capabilities for today’s forces, and the program team ensures that it’s keenly in tune with forthcoming war.ghting needs.

The Super Hornet is the most capable weapons system in the air today and for the foreseeable future. And we are continually adding new capability and upgrading or refining systems so that our customer doesn’t have to wait for something to become available.

Boeing is currently building Super Hornets under a contract with the US Navy, and in May 2007, Australia signed a contract for 24 of the jets.

The Super Hornet will remain in the US inventory well beyond the year 2030, thereby assuring India of a supportable, upgradeable program with minimal risk. have to wait for something to become available.

Boeing is currently building Super Hornets under a contract with the US Navy, and in May 2007, Australia signed a contract for 24 of the jets.

The Super Hornet will remain in the US inventory well beyond the year 2030, thereby assuring India of a supportable, upgradeable program with minimal risk.

From the beginning, the Super Hornet program de.ed conventional aircraft design, which dictated that upgrades be incorporated in “blocks” – adding several capabilities at once.

While the Super Hornet divides its aircraft into blocks for planning purposes, each engineering change is incorporated into aircraft in the assembly process as soon as a new single capability is ready.

From the beginning, the Super Hornet program de.ed conventional aircraft design, which dictated that upgrades be incorporated in “blocks” – adding several capabilities at once.

While the Super Hornet divides its aircraft into blocks for planning purposes, each engineering change is incorporated into aircraft in the assembly process as soon as a new single capability is ready.

New capabilities are retroffited, as available, on earlier models. As a result, the customer always has the most capable aircraft in its squadrons, be it on an airbase or a ight deck.

Boeing currently is delivering Block Super Hornets, with new systems and upgrades that have been added incrementally over the past two years.

Although the Super Hornet team has been increasing the aircraft’s capabilities, it’s also strongly focused on decreasing the aircraft’s unit cost.

We have generated almost 2 billion in savings to the US government through our first two multi-year procurements. We are prepared to drive the cost down even further and are committed to continually providing the new systems the customer wants and needs at the lowest possible cost.

SYSTEMS MAKE A DIFFERENCE

The F/A-18E/F Super Hornets flying today are already equipped with many next-generation technologies and capabilities. The new systems aren’t usually visible to the casual observer, but they make significant differences to the men and women who fly – and fight – in these jets.

One of the newest advances is the plane’s advanced sensors and radar, the APG-79 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar, provided by F/A-18 program teammate Raytheon.

AESA expands the Super Hornet’s lethality to beyond the range of weapons or platforms that might be threat against it.

Many of the advanced technologies that are operational on the Super Hornet today, such as the AESA radar, are only long-term, developmental promises being made by many other aircraft manufacturers.

The Super Hornet also boasts an advanced targeting pod, known as the Advanced Targeting Forward Looking Infrared (ATFLIR), for exceptional air-to-ground performance, as well as a Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System (JHMCS) for enhanced aircrew situational awareness and combat lethality.

With a total of 11 weapon stations, the Super Hornet also provides extraordinary payload flexibility by carrying a meaningful load of air-to-air and air-to-ground ordnance. A typical loadout for a self-escort strike mission includes the advanced targeting pod, one AIM-120 AMRAAM, and two AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles.

This leaves seven weapon stations available to carry a variety of weapons and other stores.

These are just a few of more than a dozen major systems, upgrades and re.nements Boeing and its industry partners have added to the aircraft since it was first introduced. The Super Hornets made today are way beyond the capabilities of the earlier versions.

As important as these capabilities are today, the Super Hornet has never rested on its laurels.

The team – a best-of-industry teaming of the US Navy, Boeing, and its major subcontractors, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and General Electric – has a “Flight Plan” in place that defines what’s next for the Super Hornet.

That includes distributed targeting; net-centric operations and battlespace management; sensor integration; and advanced weapons.

The Super Hornet is continually evolving to meet customers’ needs. People talk about aircraft generations. We think those lines are blurred; we think of the Super Hornet as Next Generation because it’s continually evolving to stay ahead of the threat.

Our mission from day one has been to provide today what our customers will need tomorrow. And we’ve made that mission a reality.”
http://www.indiastrategic.in/topstories171.htm

 

[Screambowl]

India bought transports, then combat helicopters; I think next step is combat planes.

There is not much problem except some "agreements" which Americans can waive if Congress agrees.

and both of them we can develop on our own.. but fighter jet not as good as them.There you lack tech. That's why other deals are easy. Similar way they are ready to do project for Navy. Because they know that we are good in it.

These are small minute but very important things we should not forget.

 

[BON PLAN]

You were not talking about IR signature above. You were talking about aerodynamics of F-35 versus Rafale. Your premise was that the F-35 is a fat aircraft hence it is less aerodynamic than the Rafale. I showed pictures of Rafale when it is loaded for combat which is not very aerodynamic since it has to carry everything externally. All these external fuel, racks, bombs, missiles, targeting pods that Rafale carries when it goes into combat have severe aerodynamic penalties. The F-35 on the other hand since it is designed to carry its weapons internally is aerodynamically better than Rafale.

BTW, Rafale, like all 4th gen fighters, without its external stores is useless in combat roles since it will only carry cannon.

F35 can't embark 2 cruise missile Inside, or 6x 250kg AASM (or even smaller 250kg "simple" laser dumb bombs) with 4 or 6 AAM

You are trying to compare a golden platted Fiat (F35) with a Porsche. Good luck.

 

[BON PLAN]

With rafale deal is uncertain it is better to go for f 18 advance super hornet.

Ah Ah Ah..... dream ! You will never see a F18 in the indian sky......

 

[BON PLAN]

Sir, Rafale much better for you, we are happy with our ASH, Gripen and Tejas .

And who cares about F-35 being a truck or not.

Let France design this type of "truck", then we will talk. What say ....!

France has Rafale, and will have a Neuron/taranis UCAV in few years. Much better than to have F35.