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[skywatcher]

New rocket to join China's orbital launch fleet
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Space launch startup Orienspace's bizarre looking solid rocket Gravity-1.
Gravity-1 is a solid orbital launcher with a payload capacity of 6.5 tonne to LEO.

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Orienspace just became the fifth private Chinese space launch startup to put satellites into orbit sussessfully after
i-Space, Galactic Energy, Space Pioneer & Land Space.

Q: Who will be sixth?

 

[skywatcher]

Orienspace just became the fifth private Chinese space launch startup to put satellites into orbit sussessfully after
i-Space, Galactic Energy, Space Pioneer & Land Space.

Q: Who will be sixth?View attachment 235917
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[skywatcher]

Orienspace just became the fifth private Chinese space launch startup to put satellites into orbit sussessfully after
i-Space, Galactic Energy, Space Pioneer & Land Space.

Q: Who will be sixth?View attachment 235917
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Evidently, private Chinese orbital launch service entered into a new era.

 

[skywatcher]

Orienspace just became the fifth private Chinese space launch startup to put satellites into orbit sussessfully after
i-Space, Galactic Energy, Space Pioneer & Land Space.

Q: Who will be sixth?View attachment 235917
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[skywatcher]

With a payload capacity of 6.5 tonne to LEO, Gravity-1 is currently the world's largest solid orbital launcher

 

[skywatcher]

All private Chinese orbital launches

 

[skywatcher]

All private Chinese orbital launches
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Top five private Chinese launch startups with orbital flight capability:
1.Land Space Zhuque-2 LOX/LCH4 liquid medium lift
2.Space Pioneer Tianlong-2 LOX/RP-1 liquid medium lift
3.Orienspace Gravity-1 solid medium lift
4.Galactic Energy Ceres-1 solid light lift
5.i-Space Hyperbola-1 solid light lift

 

[skywatcher]

All private Chinese liquid rockets in development(maybe not all)

1.Space Pioneer Tianlong-3 Heavy LOX/RP-1 LEO: 68t First orbital flight 2026
2.CAS Space Kinetica-3 LOX/RP-1 LEO: 57t First orbital flight unknown
3.Orienspace Gravity-3 LOX/RP-1 LEO: 30.6t First orbital flight unknown
4.Orienspace Gravity-2 LOX/RP-1 LEO: 25.6t First orbital flight 2025
5.Land Space Zhuque-3 LOX/CH4 LEO: 21.3t First orbital flight 2025
6.Deep Blue Aerospace Nebula-2 LOX/RP-1 LEO:20t
7.Space Pioneer Tianlong-3 LOX/RP-1 LEO:17t First orbital flight Sept 2024
8.i-Space Hyperbola-3 LOX/CH4 LEO: 13.7t First orbital flight 2025
9.CAS Space Kinetica-2 LOX/RP-1 LEO:12t First orbital flight Aug 2025
10.Nayuta Space Space Chaser-1 LEO:10t First orbital flight 2025
11.Space Epoch XZY-1 LOX/RP-1 LEO:10t First orbital flight 2025
12.Space Circling Huilong-1 LEO: 10t First orbital flight unknown
13.Galactic Energy Pallas-1 LOX/RP-1 LEO:5t First orbital flight 2024
14.Deep Blue Aerospace Nebula-1 LOX/RP-1 LEO:2t First orbital flight 2024
15.Rocket Pie Darwin-1 LOX/CH4 500kg First orbital flight 2025
16.AAengine AX-1 LOX/RP-1 LEO:300kg First orbital flight unknown


Some remarks:
1.Space Pioneer LOX/RP-1 fueled Tianlong-3 is slated to become the sixth private Chinese orbital launcher this year and it will continue to lead private Chinese orbital launch service for at least 10 months.

2.CAS Space LOX/RP-1 fueled Kinetica-2 may be the first likely candidate of providing China's first commercial cargo resupply service for CSS in Aug 2025.

3.Galactic Energy LOX/RP-1 fueled Pallas-1 may be the seventh private Chinese orbital launcher this year.

4.It's uncertain if Deep Blue Aerospace LOX/RP-1 fueled Nebula-1 will be able to make an orbital launch attempt this year. There's still a slim chance.

 

[skywatcher]

I love methane

 

[skywatcher]

Private methalox powered heavy lift orbital launcher Zhuque-3 may replace the state-owned Long March 5 as a low cost alternative.

 

[mokoman]

any idea where this nonsense came from

https://www.intelligenceonline.com/government-intelligence/2023/11/20/washington-tracks-chinese-army-s-secret-himalayan-space-launch,110099078-eve

 

[rockdog]

With a payload capacity of 6.5 tonne to LEO, Gravity-1 is currently the world's largest solid orbital launcher
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WHY HLA 海澜之家？ A fashion brand logo？

 

[skywatcher]

Private methalox powered heavy lift orbital launcher Zhuque-3 may replace the state-owned Long March 5 as a low cost alternative.View attachment 237129
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As of 19 Jan 2024, four private Chinese launch startups(two methalox+two Kerolox) have completed their VTVL test at various stages.

 

[skywatcher]

Internal sources that I can't confirm claim that China's first super heavy rocket the Long March 10 could be launched as early as 2025. So i don't know if it's real or not coz it looks a little bit unlikely. Anyway, stay tuned.

 

[skywatcher]

I love methaneView attachment 237120View attachment 237119

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[skywatcher]

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[skywatcher]

Chinese launch startup Orienspace raises $84 million

BEIJING : China's private rocket developer Orienspace has raised nearly 600 million yuan ($83.67 million) to fund rocket development, it said on Wednesday, as China's demand for commercial launches of satellites is expected to increase.

The funding will be used to support the research and manufacturing the LOX/Kerosene rocket engine Primal Force-85, as well as the development of Orienspace's heavy lift Gravity-2 rocket, which is designed to be reusable, the statement said.

 

[skywatcher]

New Chinese telescope JUST under construction on Tibetan Plateau

4.4 diameter Jiaotong University Spectroscopic Telescope，JUST

 

[skywatcher]

All private Chinese liquid rockets in development(maybe not all)

1.Space Pioneer Tianlong-3 Heavy LOX/RP-1 LEO: 68t First orbital flight 2026
2.CAS Space Kinetica-3 LOX/RP-1 LEO: 57t First orbital flight unknown
3.Orienspace Gravity-3 LOX/RP-1 LEO: 30.6t First orbital flight unknown
4.Orienspace Gravity-2 LOX/RP-1 LEO: 25.6t First orbital flight 2025
5.Land Space Zhuque-3 LOX/CH4 LEO: 21.3t First orbital flight 2025
6.Deep Blue Aerospace Nebula-2 LOX/RP-1 LEO:20t
7.Space Pioneer Tianlong-3 LOX/RP-1 LEO:17t First orbital flight Sept 2024
8.i-Space Hyperbola-3 LOX/CH4 LEO: 13.7t First orbital flight 2025
9.CAS Space Kinetica-2 LOX/RP-1 LEO:12t First orbital flight Aug 2025
10.Nayuta Space Space Chaser-1 LEO:10t First orbital flight 2025
11.Space Epoch XZY-1 LOX/RP-1 LEO:10t First orbital flight 2025
12.Space Circling Huilong-1 LEO: 10t First orbital flight unknown
13.Galactic Energy Pallas-1 LOX/RP-1 LEO:5t First orbital flight 2024
14.Deep Blue Aerospace Nebula-1 LOX/RP-1 LEO:2t First orbital flight 2024
15.Rocket Pie Darwin-1 LOX/CH4 500kg First orbital flight 2025
16.AAengine AX-1 LOX/RP-1 LEO:300kg First orbital flight unknown


Some remarks:
1.Space Pioneer LOX/RP-1 fueled Tianlong-3 is slated to become the sixth private Chinese orbital launcher this year and it will continue to lead private Chinese orbital launch service for at least 10 months.

2.CAS Space LOX/RP-1 fueled Kinetica-2 may be the first likely candidate of providing China's first commercial cargo resupply service for CSS in Aug 2025.

3.Galactic Energy LOX/RP-1 fueled Pallas-1 may be the seventh private Chinese orbital launcher this year.

4.It's uncertain if Deep Blue Aerospace LOX/RP-1 fueled Nebula-1 will be able to make an orbital launch attempt this year. There's still a slim chance.View attachment 236187

Launch startup Galactic Energy: Maiden orbital flight of its LOX/Kerosene fueled rocket Pallas-1 will be ready to launch November 2024.

But I believe some sort of delay is possible.

Pallas-1 is a medium lift LOX/RP-1 fueled rocket with a payload capacity of 5 tonne to LEO.

 

[skywatcher]

Names for Chinese deep space crew vehicle and lunar lander were revealed on 24 Feb 2024
New names: Mengzhou & Lanyue