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Nationalist Protest Turns Violent in Kiev

KIEV, Ukraine—Dozens of masked men threw smoke bombs and clashed with police during a nationalist protest outside parliament, the most serious unrest in the capital in months amid growing discontent with the slow pace of reforms promised by the government.

About 1,000 demonstrators gathered outside parliament Tuesday morning, faced by lines of armed riot police. Thirty-seven protesters were detained and 15 police officers injured, officials said, as riot police held back demonstrators from the parliament building.

Nationalist party Svoboda organized the rally to demand that parliament give recognition to nationalist fighters from World War II. Svoboda and another right-wing group, Right Sector, said their supporters weren't involved in the violence and blamed "provocateurs."

The clashes came as lawmakers, meeting for the last time before parliamentary elections set for Oct. 26, passed an antigraft law and changes to the general prosecutor's office aimed at stamping out corruption.

Demonstrations have grown in Ukraine in recent weeks amid widespread anger at perceived state corruption and incompetence. Many voters are unhappy with the slow pace of change after street protests led to the ouster of former President Viktor Yanukovych in February. Some protesters have taken to throwing politicians, particularly those connected with Mr. Yanukovych, into trash cans.

Some politicians and officials said the protests look like an attempt to destabilize the country, pointing the finger at Russia, which is supporting armed separatists that control territory in Ukraine's east.

On Tuesday, many protesters waved party flags, but a few dozen threw smoke bombs and other objects at the police, smashing some windows. Officers mostly took up defensive positions, but fought back with batons when attacked.

Inside parliament, lawmakers declined to consider a bill on recognizing fighters from the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, nationalists who briefly allied with the Nazis before fighting both the Soviets and the Nazis in World War II.

Parliament did vote in a new defense minister, former National Guard chief Stepan Poltorak, and pass anticorruption legislation before the speaker closed the session.

One new law will require government officials to disclose information about their income, which will be checked against their lifestyles and assets.

Parliamentary Speaker Oleksandr Turchynov said he would discuss holding an extra session with government officials, after calling an early halt to the session amid the violence.

The European Union ambassador to Ukraine, Jan Tombinski, welcomed the package of anticorruption laws, but criticized the violence.

"These encouraging steps by the parliament should not be overshadowed by the violent protests taking place in Kiev today; in a democratic country, the parliament should be able to discuss legislative initiatives free from violence and intimidation," he said.

Mr. Gerashchenko wrote that Russian security services could have been involved in organizing the violence, but didn't present evidence. Russian officials deny meddling in Ukraine. At a meeting with the presidential human-rights council in Moscow, Russian President Vladimir Putin hit out at Ukraine for "the beating and humiliation of opponents at every step."

"Far right groups, which were long infiltrated and financed by Russian and Ukrainian security services, are being provoked into disruptive actions to weaken the Ukrainian state. It is part of Putin 's agenda of destabilization," Adrian Karatnycky, senior fellow at the Atlantic Council in Washington, said on Facebook.

"What kind of democracy is being planted?" Mr. Putin said.

In Ukraine's east, seven government troops died in the past 24 hours, including six killed when a land mine exploded, Ukrainian security spokesman Andriy Lysenko said. However, he said there had been no large-scale clashes. Ukraine and the rebels signed a cease-fire last month that has largely held, despite scattered fighting and dozens of deaths.

Five civilians were killed and 10 more wounded when a funeral on the outskirts of the government-held town of Mariupol was shelled Tuesday, city officials said, blaming pro-Russian separatists for the incident. The city council of rebel-held Donetsk reported two civilians were wounded on Monday.

One rebel leader, Pavel Gubarev, who was injured late Sunday when his car was allegedly shot at and forced off the road in Donetsk region, regained consciousness overnight, his wife said in a Facebook post. Ukrainian officials say infighting is increasing between armed separatist groups, who are holding a rogue election in early November.

Protesters clash with police in Ukraine capital, throw smoke bombs | Reuters
 

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While oil continues to fall.
Do you think US is triggering this fall for your country ??

Whatever the reason may be, I am happy that it is going down at least for some time.
 

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Do you think US is triggering this fall for your country ??

Whatever the reason may be, I am happy that it is going down at least for some time.
No. Falling prices are not for the sake of Ukraine. Ukraine is a pawn in a geopolitical game. Russia invaded Ukraine and the Americans have a reason to economically undermine Russia.

P.S. Stalin could crush Hitler at the beginning of his adventures. But he wanted to gain control over Europe. So he had made "a Big War", where the Soviet Union came as a liberator.
 

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No. Falling prices are not for the sake of Ukraine. Ukraine is a pawn in a geopolitical game.
I agree with this part of your post. Great that you finally realize that there is a geopolitical tussle for control over your country. As I remember, you have vociferously denied such notion previously. A good start of change.
 

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I agree with this part of your post. Great that you finally realize that there is a geopolitical tussle for control over your country. As I remember, you have vociferously denied such notion previously. A good start of change.
Russia started an open war. I did not deny what was said before. What difference does it make, in the geopolitical spectrum, if the Russian militants kill my fellow citizens?
 

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Putin blames Baltic countries and eastern europe of "spreading the nazi-virus".....Vladimir, are you preparing 3rd phase of your operation? After Crimea and East Ukraine?

Putin huolestui "natsiviruksesta" - "rokote menettää tehoaan"

Russian lawmakers angry Kiev declares pro-Nazi force creation date as national holiday (Slava - slava - slava..)
TASS: Russia - Russian lawmakers angry Kiev declares pro-Nazi force creation date as national holiday
MOSCOW, October 15. /TASS/. Many Russian legislators are deeply angered by Kiev's decision to declare October 14, the day when the pro-Nazi Ukrainian Insurgent Army was created during World War II in 1942, as Defender of the Nation Day and a public holiday. The UIA gained notoriety as an active collaborator with the Nazi force of occupation and participant in many WW II massacres of civilian population. Members of both houses of the Russian parliament interpreted this move as Kiev's official confirmation of its commitment to Nazi ideas.
Banderastan...
 

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20 dead in Mariupol clashes-Ukraine - 7 Greeks dead
Ukrainian security forces killed about 20 pro-Russian rebels who tried to seize control of police headquarters in the eastern port city of Mariupol on Friday, the Interior Minister said.
20 dead in Mariupol clashes-Ukraine |thetoc.gr


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an advice to Banderastan citizens.. Dont try to visit Greece this summer
 
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