Civil war in Ukraine

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Conditions are creating for a renewed Ukraine conflict.

Timing is hard to predict right now but second half of 2016 looks likely.
 

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I think he has already lost (de facto). Odessa, Mariupol, and several other cities will always be wary of the authorities.
 

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Today, 23rd of February, is the Day of Soviet Army and Navy, now known as a Fatherland's Defender Day.

Despite the fact there were no victories that day, and moreover, that was the day when Lenin & Co signed a shameful Brest's truce with Germans, that gave life to Ukrainian proxy-state, it still worth celebrating.

So I post a music video of people who defend the Fatherland. Defend from those, who would like to Ukrainize it.

 

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For all those freaks who dought in Vostochniy spaceport is ready:
 

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There are no nazis in Ukraine (especially in Police and National Guard), nonononono!
 

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when it will be end ?
Most experts agreed that it will last until Years 2017-2019.
Then we will fall and fracture (if nobody will want to support and rebuild us) or will be a part of Russia (the most probably as EU will not tolerate chaos zone on its border but is not capable to pay for Ukraine restoration) as we have been from the start of the times being :)
 

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EU itself will fracture. First shot could be UK leaving EU.

Next could be Germany. While it sounds odd, Germans are tired.

Ukraine is heating up again. UAH is falling very fast. Very quite here.
 

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Most experts agreed that it will last until Years 2017-2019.
Then we will fall and fracture (if nobody will want to support and rebuild us) or will be a part of Russia (the most probably as EU will not tolerate chaos zone on its border but is not capable to pay for Ukraine restoration) as we have been from the start of the times being :)
Nostradamus?
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Russia is waiting to move in. USA is already getting tired. Obama statement:

U.S. President Barack Obama said that Ukraine "is going to be vulnerable to military domination by Russia no matter what" the United States does.

In one of a series of interviews published on March 10 that formed the basis of an article in The Atlantic magazine, Obama said that Ukraine was clearly a core interest for Russia but suggested that it may not be one for the United States.

Ukraine is "an example of where we have to be very clear about what our core interests are and what we are willing to go to war for," Obama said.
 

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Next USA President will either go to war with Russia over Ukraine or pack up and run.

My gut feeling is that Ukraine will be abandoned to its fate.

Merkel is also counting her days. Many other current stalwarts of Europe will fall in two years. Europe is already realizing the folly of paying for Ukraine.
 

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Ukraine may join forces with Turkey; but that hardly matters.

As to the current aggressiveness of Kiev on the front, it will die down as results do not appear.
 

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The smile of Mr Poroshenko and Mr Yatsenyuk has vanished.
And for the record, USD to UAH = 26.32 right now. My prediction is 100 in two years.
Though a million. Ukraine buys imported weapons. Domestic prices are substantially different
 

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The elite in USA has realized that USA has to reduce military expenditure. This means that USA has to withdraw from some parts of the world, or leave control to allies.

I think it is dawning on Americans that a frontal war with Russians in Ukraine is counter-productive. The main reason is the possibility of a Russian win, which is very damaging to the empire.

So USA will look for a way out. I think background is already being prepared - ostensibly Ukraine's failure to reform its economy. They will blame the Ukraine govt for this failure and get out.

The Americans have a bad habit of starting revolutions and then abandoning them.
 

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The Ukrainians are so thoroughly brainwashed that they think every small advance as a strategic victory. The urban battles being fought in Donetsk are costly in human lives and unpredictable on the ground.

War is expensive. The cost is massive for Kiev. Ignoring a problem only makes it bigger.

Ukrainian society is perpetually on the brink. It remains to be seen how long it can endure. Blaming the Russians is the easy part.
 
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