Civil war in Ukraine

[jouni]

Rupla romahti – Olga KutÅ¡kovskajan dollareissa otettu asuntolaina kaksinkertaistui - Venäjän talous - Talous - Helsingin Sanomat

The ruble collapsed - Olga Kutškovskaja´s mortgage doubled.
Young Moscovite took a mortgage without thinking about exchange rate risk

From 160 000 $ to 320 000 $ and counting...

 

[jouni]

They can have a backpack holiday.

I would not recommend, they might run into these guys. They and Santa are both active this time of the year.

 

[Ray]

Rupla romahti – Olga KutÅ¡kovskajan dollareissa otettu asuntolaina kaksinkertaistui - Venäjän talous - Talous - Helsingin Sanomat

The ruble collapsed - Olga Kutškovskaja´s mortgage doubled.
Young Moscovite took a mortgage without thinking about exchange rate risk

From 160 000 $ to 320 000 $ and counting...

Proves that I was right as to why oil is being overproduced and its price falling.

The US backed cartel and the US are doing another Regan on Russia and Iran.

@asianobserve painting the West as pure as driven snow and not looking at issues holistically, again proved wrong!

 

[jouni]

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/...ssia-s-behavior-arouses-suspicion/513476.html

Belarus' Lukashenko: Russia's Behavior Arouses Suspicion

Lukashenko also told the Security Council that Belarus needed to increase its defense capabilities to guard against NATO forces in the west — and against Russia in the east.

"I don't want to overlook the eastern direction in this situation," Lukashenko was quoted as saying.

 

[jouni]

Proves that I was right as to why oil is being overproduced and its price falling.

The US backed cartel and the US are doing another Regan on Russia and Iran.

@asianobserve painting the West as pure as driven snow and not looking at issues holistically, again proved wrong!

What is happening now is direct impact of annexation of Crimea and occupation of East Ukraine. EU could not watch and sit while Russia was using military force and breaking all the agreements about European security that they had signed. Sanctions are proving to be working.

 

[Ray]

What is happening now is direct impact of annexation of Crimea and occupation of East Ukraine. EU could not watch and sit while Russia was using military force and breaking all the agreements about European security that they had signed. Sanctions are proving to be working.

No, it is the US and the EU which tricked Russia that they would not move Eastward.

I have already posted the details from US sources.

 

[asianobserve]

Proves that I was right as to why oil is being overproduced and its price falling.

The US backed cartel and the US are doing another Regan on Russia and Iran.

@asianobserve painting the West as pure as driven snow and not looking at issues holistically, again proved wrong!

Sanctions are being imposed by West, true. But there's no proof that oil prices is being manipulated by US. Instead, I showed you proof that Russia itself declined to reduce production! Between your theory and what is a fact, the choice should not be difficult, at least to objective minds.

Russia, Arab Oil Producers in No-Cut Chorus as Price Dive Deepens

Russia has said it would not cut production even if oil prices fell below $60 per barrel - far below some $100 a barrel it needs to balance its budget - a message reinforced on Tuesday by energy minister Alexander Novak arriving at a gas producers summit in Qatar.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/16/russia-oil-minister-idUSL6N0U026B20141216

 

[arpakola]

Crisis is becoming real in Finland. My Russian friends cancelled their new years holiday to Finland. It is too expensive for them to come here for 4 days because of the weak ruble. They feel sad , they have been here for the last 6 years, but now they will stay at home. Well, for children it is very sad, they have been waiting for whole year to visit the home of Santa Claus and now it is too expensive.

you see
One of the good things over controled devaluation is that there is a great benifit in international trade flow balance..

I m sure your beloved friends , will not cry a lot .. missing the snows of Filand since they will be able to find a lot of local snow to make Christmass.

 

[arpakola]

Listen to this Ukrainian Nazi, speaking in Russian with his fellow Ukrainians, explaining that there are no peaceful civilians in Donetsk but only collaborators of the enemy. As soon as he is done spewing his hatred he gets hit by an artillery shell. Call it 'karma' or remember the words of the 3rd Psalm "thou hast broken the teeth of the ungodly" but this guy sure got what he deserved. See for yourself:

 

[arpakola]

I would not recommend, they might run into these guys. They and Santa are both active this time of the year.

oo come on you can find snow men almost every where .. even in Greece , and remember our tarining is at 2.500 meters .. you see.. we are not a FlaterLand..:cool2: like..

 

[Ray]

Sanctions are being imposed by West, true. But there's no proof that oil prices is being manipulated by US. Instead, I showed you proof that Russia itself declined to reduce production! Between your theory and what is a fact, the choice should not be difficult, at least to objective minds.

It would be indeed very naive of one to believe that a country will boast that it is doing something to destroy another country.

Did you hear US boasting that it would break Yugoslavia?

Did the Regan administration shout from the rooftop about his administration specifically targeting the Yugoslav economy in a Secret Sensitive 1984 National Security Decision Directive NSDD 133 aiming to break up Yugoslavia?

Google and check on NSDD 133 to learn more.

Better still check Post #8537 which apparently you did not find it convenient to read.

Did Regan and the Pope tomtom that they were financing Walsea of Poland to throw out the Communists?

Google and check.

Russia can keep producing but if the prices have hit rock bottom, then it will not get them the returns they could have expected if the prices were when oil production had not been increased so as to plummet it to a all time low.

 

[arpakola]

The Vineyard of the Saker

Ruble Exchange Rate Fluctuations and the Economic War
by Aleksei Kettunen
Translation to English: Petri Krohn

Russian ruble exchange rate changes have all the ingredients of success detective story. On Monday, 15.12. 2014 ruble weakened to a record low since 1998: the dollar cost 64 rubles and 79 rubles to the euro. In recent years, the price of an euro has been hanging around 50 rubles, or 5 000 rubles withdrawn from an ATM for a night of adventures in St. Petersburg would cost around 100 euros.

Last night, the Russian Central Bank raised its base rate drastically from 10.5 per cent to 17 per cent to curb currency speculation. The price of an euro during the day momentarily exceeded the limit of 100 rubles or 80 rubles for a dollar. Now at the end of the market day the ruble has slightly appreciated: $ 1= 72.60 rubles and 1 euro = 90 rubles. The official rates of the Russian Central Bank before tomorrow's market day are $ 1 = 61.15 rubles and 1 Euro = 76.15 rubles

What is this about?

The economic sanctions imposed by the US and the EU prevent granting of loans to Russian companies with a payment period of more than 30 days. As Russian companies have been borrowing money from the West the entire post-Cold War period at a lower rate of interest and the penalties now prevent loan restructuring and follow-up funding, these companies must now get euros and dollars to take care of their loans, thereby creating more demand for foreign currency in the Russian market and thus weakening the ruble.

Also, the fall in the price of oil reduces Russia's foreign exchange earnings, which in a situation of high demand for currency weakens the ruble.

The Eurasian Economic Union comes into force on January 1, 2015. Most likely at the same time the Russian ruble and foreign exchange markets will change drastically, and the Russian economy will take a distance to the dollar and the euro. Now the West is doing its best to weaken the ruble and thus destabilize the Russian economy and the political system before the end of the year. The maxima of the West is to prevent the emergence of the new economic union and closer cooperation within the BRICS. Taking into account the Christmas holidays, the West has little more than a week to succeed.

What are the Russian authorities doing? Trying their best to defend the ruble and the Russian economy. Their actions are limited by two factors: first, in this battle Russia's foreign currency reserves may be used only minimally (for which there are far better uses), and, secondly, the entire process must take place under the rules of the dollar-based global liberal economic model (because Russia will disconnect from the dollar system only later).

For the rest of the year the going will only get tougher. Even under the liberal economic model the Central Bank of Russia and the government have much stronger measures to stabilize and strengthen the ruble, which they probably will introduced as needed.

Russia will detach itself from the global dollar economy according to earlier plans .Until then it will continue defending the ruble. The West on its part will make every effort to weaken the ruble. What will be the end result? Time will tell – or the stars. I predict that next year will see a surprise!

What might this 2015 surprise be?

The Russian government has already informed Russian banks that the amounts of reserve currency deposits placed by various ministries in Russian banks will be drastically less than during previous years. These funds will instead be used to finance various domestic infrastructure projects. All this means that the Russian government obsessed with saving during all the 2000s and 2010s will become a big spender investing in strategical domestic projects. This will considerably strengthen Russian economy.

Another factor will be the Eurasian Union.

The third factor is a combination of recent Russia-China, Russia-Iran and Russia-India megaprojects and financing from the New Development Bank NDB (formerly referred to as the BRICS Development Bank). Russian President, Government and Bank of Russia have consistently informed the market players that now is the time to concentrate on domestic markets and domestic financial resources. All this will probably mean the unlinking of Russian economy from dollar-dominated Western economy.

Enjoy the cliffhanger!

 

[jouni]

you see
One of the good things over controled devaluation is that there is a great benifit in international trade flow balance..

I m sure your beloved friends , will not cry a lot .. missing the snows of Filand since they will be able to find a lot of local snow to make Christmass.

They were also worried of not be able to keep their car, falling ruble and rising interest rates are a bad combination. Even Nissan Quashqai can become too expensive to own. What a bad days for Russians. They have snow in Russia, but not the infrastructure, cleanliness and safety.

 

[jouni]

No, it is the US and the EU which tricked Russia that they would not move Eastward.

I have already posted the details from US sources.

It is the Ukraine who wants to "move westwards". Saying that a country cannot "move west" to develop it´s society and living standards, is like saying that Indian children cannot have vaccination against diseases. Everybody must have right to have a normal life.

In 1990 Poland was half the GDP as Ukraine. Now they are over double. EU will ensure the development of Ukraine too. No bleed of wealth to Moscow and Oligarks ( local and foreign ) anymore.

 

[jouni]

Or maybe Santa Claus. Christmas is coming.

On the issue of US and EU plans on Yugoslavia the undermentioned would clarify.

Let us see the constituents of the erstwhile Yugoslavia

Now, despite Belgrade's non-alignment and its extensive trading relations with the European Community and the US, the Reagan administration specifically targeted the Yugoslav economy in a Secret Sensitive 1984 National Security Decision Directive NSDD 133.

NSDD - National Security Decision Directives - Reagan Administration

A censored version declassified in 1990 elaborated on NSDD 54 on Eastern Europe, issued in 1982. The latter advocated "expanded efforts to promote a 'quiet revolution' to overthrow Communist governments and parties," while reintegrating the countries of Eastern Europe into a market-oriented economy.



That much for the benign EU and the US.

Ukraine is but another attempt to add another feather' in their cap.

They might succeed given that the Rouble has tumbled and is in a freefall. This is what I had stated earlier as to the plan why oil production was increased and the prices allowed to plummet. While others were giving pious reasons that it was not to decapitate Russia but a general commercial activity.

You should ask from former Yugoslavians if they miss the old times? My bet is that most do not. They are prospering and living without the fear of war.

 

[asianobserve]

It would be indeed very naive of one to believe that a country will boast that it is doing something to destroy another country.

Did you hear US boasting that it would break Yugoslavia?

Did the Regan administration shout from the rooftop about his administration specifically targeting the Yugoslav economy in a Secret Sensitive 1984 National Security Decision Directive NSDD 133 aiming to break up Yugoslavia?

Google and check on NSDD 133 to learn more.

Better still check Post #8537 which apparently you did not find it convenient to read.

Did Regan and the Pope tomtom that they were financing Walsea of Poland to throw out the Communists?

Google and check.

Russia can keep producing but if the prices have hit rock bottom, then it will not get them the returns they could have expected if the prices were when oil production had not been increased so as to plummet it to a all time low.

You're giving the US too much credit my friend.

Yugoslavian Federation broke up because like the USSR it was a forced country of different ethnic groups. So when the controlling regime (communist government) collapsed the whole thing unraveled. The final push for the break up came in the form of Serbian nationalism, you have Milosevic to thank that for. Regarding the Pope and Reagan, well, you knew from their joint statements right away that they want communism to collapse. That was not a secret.

If Russia really thinks that America is manipulating oil prices then expect Putin to say it and fight against it with Venezuela, Iran and other OPEC producers. But did he do such a thing? No. Instead, as I said Russia has declared that it will not cut back production. That's the opposite of what its natural reaction should be.

 

[arpakola]

You should ask from former Yugoslavians if they miss the old times? My bet is that most do not. They are prospering and living without the fear of war.

does this apply to Kossovars - Serbians - Bosnians ?
I can tell most of Serbians and Skopia are missing the old times
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[asianobserve]

does this apply to Kossovars - Serbians - Bosnians ?
I can tell most of Serbians and Skopia are missing the old times
===============

You mean the Serbian nationalists are missing the old times when they projected a bigger force than they were by standing on the heads of the other ethnic minorities in their confederation?

 

[Ray]

It is the Ukraine who wants to "move westwards". Saying that a country cannot "move west" to develop it´s society and living standards, is like saying that Indian children cannot have vaccination against diseases. Everybody must have right to have a normal life.

In 1990 Poland was half the GDP as Ukraine. Now they are over double. EU will ensure the development of Ukraine too. No bleed of wealth to Moscow and Oligarks ( local and foreign ) anymore.

Not all Ukrainians want to move 'westward'.

and we are aware of how Ukraine democracy runs!

As far as Poland and her doing fantastic goes check these:

Bush Greets Walesa With 70% Debt Cut : Foreign aid: The decrease goes 20 percentage points beyond that of the other allies.
March 21, 1991 | JAMES GERSTENZANG, TIMES STAFF WRITER
President Bush said Wednesday that the United States will reduce Poland's outstanding debt to the United States by 70%. The decrease, which goes beyond an agreement by Western allies to cut Poland's international debt in half, will lop more than $2.6 billion from the amount Poland owes the U.S. Treasury, leaving the longstanding debt at approximately $1.2 billion, U.S. government officials said.

The American Business Initiative is a $45-million, two-year project intended to help small- and medium-sized U.S. firms seeking to enter the Eastern European market. The Trade Enhancement Initiative involves a series of measures, including expansion of duty-free benefits.
Bush Greets Walesa With 70% Debt Cut : Foreign aid: The decrease goes 20 percentage points beyond that of the other allies. - Los Angeles Times

Poland Viewed as Model for E. Europe, Gore Says : Diplomacy: Poles are 'showing the way to the future,' and concern over Russia will not sway U.S. interest in their country, vice president vows.
April 21, 1993
The United States has given more than $4 billion in aid to Poland since 1990, making it the largest regional recipient of American aid; the total includes $2.4 billion in debt reduction and more than $1 billion in direct aid.
Poland Viewed as Model for E. Europe, Gore Says : Diplomacy: Poles are 'showing the way to the future,' and concern over Russia will not sway U.S. interest in their country, vice president vows. - Los Angeles Times

You should ask from former Yugoslavians if they miss the old times? My bet is that most do not. They are prospering and living without the fear of war.

What war?

Never heard of MAD?

 

[Ray]

You're giving the US too much credit my friend.

Yugoslavian Federation broke up because like the USSR it was a forced country of different ethnic groups. So when the controlling regime (communist government) collapsed the whole thing unraveled. The final push for the break up came in the form of Serbian nationalism, you have Milosevic to thank that for. Regarding the Pope and Reagan, well, you knew from their joint statements right away that they want communism to collapse. That was not a secret.

If Russia really thinks that America is manipulating oil prices then expect Putin to say it and fight against it with Venezuela, Iran and other OPEC producers. But did he do such a thing? No. Instead, as I said Russia has declared that it will not cut back production. That's the opposite of what its natural reaction should be.

Educate yourself and then comment.

Pope and Regan never commented that they were in cahoots to break Communism or East Europe.

No one announces that one is going to murder another chap.

If you do not agree with the reports of expert commentators, then debunk them with facts and not by your own fiction that is the figment of your imagination with some airy fairy comments.

Pope John Paul II's Role in the Collapse of Poland's Communist Regime: Examining a Religious Leader's Impact on International Relations

Abstract
The international relations field knows Pope John Paul II for his temporal leadership in the Roman Catholic Church, but less is known about his pivotal role in the rise of Poland's independent trade movement, Solidarity, and the collapse of that nation's Communist government. This study analyzes current scholarship in order to establish the importance that an individual actor can have within political science, and in doing so, outlines the criteria for effective leadership.

Major texts include Max Weber's seminal Economy and Society, James MacGregor Burns' Leadership, which explores the concept of "transforming leadership," Fred
Greenstein's "The Impact of Personality on Politics: An Attempt to Clear Away Underbrush," and Ann Ruth Willner's The Spellbinders: Charismatic Political Leadership. After examining how John Paul II met this leadership criteria, attention turns to his three papal visits to Poland, where his efforts created a hospitable environment in an attempt to oppose the Communist authorities, where Poles felt able to express their grievances, and where change was possible.

Further evidence of the Pope's significant role comes from analyzing the cooperative relationship between the Vatican and the United States under President Ronald Reagan.

To measure the U.S.S.R.'s response to the Pope's efforts, this study turns to Politburo documents, interviews with major authors and evidence that suggests Soviet orchestration was behind the 1981 attempted assassination of John Paul II in Rome.

This study ultimately finds that Pope John Paul II's impact was more than religious, that it was political and that its lasting repercussions included the weakening of the global Soviet empire. The findings provide a basis for further studying the international role of religious figures rather than merely the role of nation-states
http://digitalcommons.uconn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1244&context=srhonors_theses

For Christ's sake read the whole PDF at that link so that once and for all, I am saved the agony of repeatedly putting up with your imagined imagery of issues, of which you have very little knowledge as it appears apparently. I have many a time showed the connection of the Pope and Reagan as to how they planned to destroy Communism and East Europe and bring under their tutelage.

Ukraine is work in progress.