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I believe in order to understand our opponent we need to understand its military strategy . China has been a constant threat to our great nation since 1950s and we should understand how the Chinese have historically fought , for that we Indians need to know , understand and manipulate Chinese hostile maneuvers .

The 36 Stratagems

Chapter 1 - Winning Strategies

Strategy 1 "瞒天过海" - Deceive the sky to cross the ocean.
Moving about in the darkness and shadows, occupying isolated places, or hiding behind screens will only attract suspicious attention. To lower an enemy's guard you must act in the open hiding your true intentions under the guise of common every day activities.

Strategy 2 "围魏救赵" - Surround Wei to rescue Zhao.
When the enemy is too strong to attack directly, then attack something he holds dear. Know that in all things he cannot be superior. Somewhere there is a gap in the armour, a weakness that can be attacked instead.
In other words, you may try to attack the relatives or dear ones of the enemy to weaken him psychologically.

Strategy 3 "借刀杀人" - Borrow one's hand to kill. (Kill with a borrowed knife.)
Attack using the strength of another (because of lack of strength or do not want to use own strength). Trick an ally into attacking him, bribe an official to turn traitor, or use the enemy's own strength against him.

Strategy 4 "以逸待劳" - Make your enemy tire himself out while conserving energy.
It is an advantage to choose the time and place for battle. In this way you know when and where the battle will take place, while your enemy does not. Encourage your enemy to expend his energy in futile quests while you conserve your strength. When he is exhausted and confused, you attack with energy and purpose.

Strategy 5 "趁火打劫" - Use the opportunity of fire to rob others. (Loot a burning house.)
When a country is beset by internal conflicts, when disease and famine ravage the population, when corruption and crime are rampant, then it will be unable to deal with an outside threat. This is the time to attack.

Strategy 6 "声东击西" - Feign an attack in the east and attack in the west.
In any battle the element of surprise can provide an overwhelming advantage. Even when face to face with an enemy, surprise can still be employed by attacking where he least expects it. To do this you must create an expectation in the enemy's mind through the use of a feint.

Chapter 2 - Enemy Dealing Strategies

Strategy 7 "无中生有" - Create something from nothing.
You use the same feint twice. Having reacted to the first and often the second feint as well, the enemy will be hesitant to react to a third feint. Therefore the third feint is the actual attack catching your enemy with his guard down.

Strategy 8 "暗渡陈仓" - Secretly utilize the Chen Chang passage. (Repair the highway to take the crude path.) e.g., the Allied invasion of Normandy and the Pas de Calais deception.
Attack the enemy with two convergent forces. The first is the direct attack, one that is obvious and for which the enemy prepares his defense. The second is the indirect, the attack sinister, that the enemy does not expect and which causes him to divide his forces at the last minute leading to confusion and disaster.

Strategy 9 "隔岸观火" - Watch the fires burning across the river.
Delay entering the field of battle until all the other players have become exhausted fighting amongst themselves. Then go in full strength and pick up the pieces.

Strategy 10 "笑里藏刀" - Knife sheathed in a smile.
Charm and ingratiate yourself to your enemy. When you have gained his trust, you move against him in secret

Strategy 11 "李代桃僵" - Plum tree sacrifices for the peach tree. (Sacrifice the silver to keep the gold.)
There are circumstances in which you must sacrifice short-term objectives in order to gain the long-term goal. This is the scapegoat strategy whereby someone else suffers the consequences so that the rest do not.

Strategy 12 "顺手牵羊" - Stealing a goat along the way (Take the opportunity to pilfer a goat.)
While carrying out your plans be flexible enough to take advantage of any opportunity that presents itself, however small, and avail yourself of any profit, however slight.

Chapter 3 - Attacking Strategies

Strategy 13 "打草惊蛇" - Startle the snake by hitting the grass around it.
When you cannot detect the opponent's plans launch a direct, but brief, attack and observe your opponent reactions. His behavior will reveal his strategy.

Strategy 14 "借尸还魂" - Borrow another's corpse to resurrect the soul. (Raise a corpse from the dead.)
Take an institution, a technology, or a method that has been forgotten or discarded and appropriate it for your own purpose. Revive something from the past by giving it a new purpose or to reinterpret and bring to life old ideas, customs, and traditions.

Strategy 15 "调虎离山" - Entice the tiger to leave its mountain lair.
Never directly attack an opponent whose advantage is derived from its position. Instead lure him away from his position thus separating him from his source of strength.

Strategy 16 "欲擒姑纵" - In order to capture, one must let loose.
Cornered prey will often mount a final desperate attack. To prevent this you let the enemy believe he still has a chance for freedom. His will to fight is thus dampened by his desire to escape. When in the end the freedom is proven a falsehood the enemy's morale will be defeated and he will surrender without a fight.

Strategy 17 "抛砖引玉" - Tossing out a brick to get a jade
Prepare a trap then lure your enemy into the trap by using bait. In war the bait is the illusion of an opportunity for gain. In life the bait is the illusion of wealth, power, and sex.

Strategy 18 "擒贼擒王" - Defeat the enemy by capturing their chief.
If the enemy's army is strong but is allied to the commander only by money or threats then, take aim at the leader. If the commander falls the rest of the army will disperse or come over to your side. If, however, they are allied to the leader through loyalty then beware, the army can continue to fight on after his death out of vengeance.

Chapter 4 - Chaos Strategies

Strategy 19 "釜底抽薪" - Remove the firewood under the cooking pot. (Remove the stick from the axe.)
When faced with an enemy too powerful to engage directly you must first weaken him by undermining his foundation and attacking his source of power.

Strategy 20 "混水摸鱼" - Fish in disturbed waters.
Before engaging your enemy's forces create confusion to weaken his perception and judgment. Do something unusual, strange, and unexpected as this will arouse the enemy's suspicion and disrupt his thinking. A distracted enemy is thus more vulnerable.

Strategy 21 "金蝉脱壳" - Slough off the cicada's shell. (False appearances mislead the enemy.)
When you are in danger of being defeated, and your only chance is to escape and regroup, then create an illusion. While the enemy's attention is focused on this artifice, secretly remove your men leaving behind only the facade of your presence.

Strategy 22 "关门捉贼" - Shut the door to catch the thief.
If you have the chance to completely capture the enemy then you should do so thereby bringing the battle or war to a quick and lasting conclusion. To allow your enemy to escape plants the seeds for future conflict. But if they succeed in escaping, be wary of giving chase.

Strategy 23 "远交近攻" - Befriend a distant state while attacking a neighbor.
It is known that nations that border each other become enemies while nations separated by distance and obstacles make better allies. When you are the strongest in one field, your greatest threat is from the second strongest in your field, not the strongest from another field.

Strategy 24 "假道伐虢" - Obtain safe passage to conquer the Kingdom of Guo.
Borrow the resources of an ally to attack a common enemy. Once the enemy is defeated, use those resources to turn on the ally that lent you them in the first place.

Chapter 5 - Proximate Strategies

Strategy 25 "偷梁换柱" - Replace the beams with rotten timbers.
Disrupt the enemy's formations, interfere with their methods of operations, change the rules in which they are used to following, go contrary to their standard training. In this way you remove the supporting pillar, the common link that makes a group of men an effective fighting force.

Strategy 26 "指桑骂槐" - Point at the mulberry and curse the locust.
To discipline, control, or warn others whose status or position excludes them from direct confrontation; use analogy and innuendo. Without directly naming names, those accused cannot retaliate without revealing their complicity.

Strategy 27 "假痴不癫" - Pretend to be a pig in order to eat the tiger. (Play dumb.)
Hide behind the mask of a fool, a drunk, or a madman to create confusion about your intentions and motivations. Lure your opponent into underestimating your ability until, overconfident, he drops his guard. Then you may attack.

Strategy 28 "上屋抽梯" - Remove the ladder when the enemy has ascended to the roof (Cross the river and destroy the bridge.)
With baits and deceptions lure your enemy into treacherous terrain. Then cut off his lines of communication and avenue of escape. To save himself he must fight both your own forces and the elements of nature.

Strategy 29 "树上开花" - Deck the tree with false blossoms.
Tying silk blossoms on a dead tree gives the illusion that the tree is healthy. Through the use of artifice and disguise make something of no value appear valuable; of no threat appear dangerous; of no use appear useful.

Strategy 30 "反客为主" - Make the host and the guest exchange places.
Defeat the enemy from within by infiltrating the enemy's camp under the guise of cooperation, surrender, or peace treaties. In this way you can discover his weakness and then, when the enemy's guard is relaxed, strike directly at the source of his strength.

Chapter 6 - Defeat Strategies

Strategy 31 "美人计" - The beauty trap. (The tender trap, use a woman to ensnare a man.)
Send your enemy beautiful women to cause discord within his camp. This strategy can work on three levels. First, the ruler becomes so enamored with the beauty that he neglects his duties and allows his vigilance to wane. Second, other males at court will begin to display aggressive behavior that inflames minor differences hindering co-operation and destroying morale. Third, other females at court, motivated by jealousy and envy, begin to plot intrigues further exacberating the situation.

Strategy 32 "空城计" - Empty fort. (Mental trap, empty a fort to make enemy think it is filled with traps.)
When the enemy is superior in numbers and your situation is such that you expect to be overrun at any moment, then drop all pretence of military preparedness and act casually. Unless the enemy has an accurate description of your situation this unusual behavior will arouse suspicions. With luck he will be dissuaded from attacking.

Strategy 33 "反间计" - Let the enemy's spy sow discord in the enemy camp. (Use enemy's own spy to spread false information.)
Undermine your enemy's ability to fight by allowing enemy's spy to remain within your ranks,while you feed false information causing enemy discord with his friends, allies, advisors, family, commanders, soldiers, and population. Preoccupied settling internal disputes, your enemy's ability to attack or defend is compromised and your control of him is increased.

Strategy 34 "苦肉计" - Inflict injury on one's self to win the enemy's trust. (Fall into a trap; become baited.)
Pretending to be injured has two possible applications. In the first, the enemy is lulled into relaxing his guard since he no longer considers you to be an immediate threat. The second is a way of ingratiating yourself to your enemy by pretending the injury was caused by a mutual enemy.

Strategy 35 "连环计" - Chain together the enemy's ships. (Never rely on but a single strategy.)
In important matters one should use several strategies applied simultaneously. Keep different plans operating in an overall scheme; in this manner if any one strategy fails you would still have several others to fall back on.

The 36th strategy "走为上" - Run away to fight another day.
If it becomes obvious that your current course of action will lead to defeat then retreat and regroup. When your side is losing there are only three choices remaining: surrender, compromise, or escape. Surrender is complete defeat, compromise is half defeat, but escape is not defeat. As long as you are not defeated, you still have a chance.


I definitely know that they are using the 3rd strategy [ Borrow one's hand to kill. (Kill with a borrowed knife ) ] by arming Pakistan , strategy 24 too [ When two of your enemies are in conflict with one another, intervene on behalf of one of them] here again Pakistan comes to mind using Pakistan to keep India engaged [ This will give you influence over both as the one who you help will be grateful while the other will be fearful of your alliance].
I also believe they are using some form of 14 th strategy [ Raise a Corpse From the Dead] by strategic encirclement through string of pearls.

I believe their are other Chinese strategic literature like the famous "The Art of War" etc understanding your enemy is the most important job it is imperative we understand China and discuss what Chinese strategy will be in future towards India.
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The 36 Stratagems, in Detail.
 

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Very interesting ! Actually , China have no fixed strategy towards India. First China don't have any mind against India.

China don't like the war . And we dare not in-depth cooperation with India because we think India have some uncertainty.

Test you ,what's this mean?

故上兵伐谋,其次伐交,其次伐兵,其下攻城。
 

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The point is India's strategic community is quite impressed by china and China's strategic culture . India also wants peace with China but India must also be wary of China's intentions especially with respect to Pakistan . It is in India's good interest to understand China and be prepared for it.
 

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The point is India's strategic community is quite impressed by china and China's strategic culture . India also wants peace with China but India must also be wary of China's intentions especially with respect to Pakistan . It is in India's good interest to understand China and be prepared for it.
There is only a small problem: all in your list are tactics, not strategy.
 

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Very interesting ! Actually , China have no fixed strategy towards India. First China don't have any mind against India.

China don't like the war . And we dare not in-depth cooperation with India because we think India have some uncertainty.

Test you ,what's this mean?

故上兵伐谋,其次伐交,其次伐兵,其下攻城。
You are interesting.

So, China does not like war? And yet, it practices it on all its neighbours. Funny, right?

China does not have a mind on India. Maybe you are right. China actually has no mind.


There is only a small problem: all in your list are tactics, not strategy.
Chapters 4, 5 and 6 Strategy.

What about this?

But I agree that Chinese are like 'Looking at London, Talking to Tokyo'. Say something and mean something else. Mentally cross-eyed.



It states 'STRATEGY' and you say Tactics!



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The point is India's strategic community is quite impressed by china and China's strategic culture . India also wants peace with China but India must also be wary of China's intentions especially with respect to Pakistan . It is in India's good interest to understand China and be prepared for it.
India wants PEACE.

And China wants PIECE of Indian territory!

That is the difference.

it reminds me of the satirical film 'To Be or Not to Be' where Hitler is caricatured when he sings this song

"I don't want war! All I want is peace...peace...peace...!
A little piece of Poland,
A little piece of France,
A little piece of Austria
And Hungary, perchance!
A little slice of Turkey
And all that that entails,
And then a bit of England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales!"


China is the modern re-run of Hitler.

They want PEACE but spelt PIECE.
 
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You are interesting.

So, China does not like war? And yet, it practices it on all its neighbours. Funny, right?

China does not have a mind on India. Maybe you are right. China actually has no mind.




Chapters 4, 5 and 6 Strategy.
Did China make you have psychological shadow?
 

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There is only a small problem: all in your list are tactics, not strategy.
Strategy is how you allpy tactics.. if you know why we do such tactics then there is no stratergy .. So keep guessing stratergy.. :p
 

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what happened and is happening with the PRC military strategy with respect to Taiwan , Macau, Hong Kong
 

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Did China make you have psychological shadow?
What exactly are you implying by ' psychological shadow'?

It appear that you could not answer what my post had stated and so you are going into the ridiculous abstract of little sense or substance.
 

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what happened and is happening with the PRC military strategy with respect to Taiwan , Macau, Hong Kong
What's your mean? I'm not understand. There is no military used to Taiwan, Macau and hongkong. No military conflict. One Country two system is a political strategy not military strategy.
 

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What exactly are you implying by ' psychological shadow'?

It appear that you could not answer what my post had stated and so you are going into the ridiculous abstract of little sense or substance.
OK , first explain the meaning of "上兵伐谋,其次伐交,其次伐兵,其下攻城。"

#4no smoking is right ,all warrier monk list are tactics, not strategy.

1上兵伐谋: it's mean Strategically, the best way to win is destory Opponent's strategy.win your enemy without fighting.

for example , The asia-pacific rebalancing from USA, no military comflict, but make China very uncomfortable. The AIIB and TPP are all this kind of strategy.

you say all I can think about = Money , in a sence maybe you are right, because the economic is a kind of power, useful power.

Let me tell you some more . about China strategy to India. China has never determine India as strategic rival. The USA is .

so , in next 2-5years, China will invest heavily to India. increase India's economy and employment. If India still wary of china and don't trust the investment,

it will progess in AIIB manner. China will release the benefit of the doubt, all country in AIIB will supervise it.

You won't refuse the invest completely harmless, that you are a Democracy, imagine what will happen if the govement refuses the invest.

This is the strategy mean. All the plan is under the SUN, no plot, unable to resist. Maybe you want to ask me ,what's China's purpose ?

Weakened the U.S. economy in the world economy scale, reduce America's influence, make a multipolar world.

By the way ,"psychological shadow", I mean you have so much distrust and suspicion to China(becaus the war in 1962 or some other else?) You can't use a rational view on India-China relationship.If you determine China as your friends, China will be your good friends. If you really determine China as your enemy , China will be your most deadly enemy.

I admit that my English is not very good, use many time to write one point. The rest will write later.
 

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@Zeratul
Let me tell you some more . about China strategy to India. China has never determine India as strategic rival. The USA is .
Then why the string of pearls + The proxy through Pak.

.If you determine China as your friends, China will be your good friends. If you really determine China as your enemy , China will be your most deadly enemy.
China has friends other than Pak and NoKo?
China has business associates..not friends.

Yes China is deadly enemy of its business associates so called friends. The world is seeing China looting resources in the name of investment.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRjkwBtA8L8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C24_KEfS5CQ

Pakistan LOOTING Balochistan, allows CHINA to take its RESOURCES | Tarek Fatah | Tune.pk

You said it...China is a deadly enemy to its friends :D :rofl:
 
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OK , first explain the meaning of "上兵伐谋,其次伐交,其次伐兵,其下攻城。"

#4no smoking is right ,all warrier monk list are tactics, not strategy.

1上兵伐谋: it's mean Strategically, the best way to win is destory Opponent's strategy.win your enemy without fighting.
The army attack plan, the highest level of military forces is to use strategy to defeat the enemy.

To win without fighting is what Sun Tsu stated.

Warrior monk or no warrior monk, strategy and tactics are different.

Strategy is a plan of action designed to achieve a long-term or overall aim. Call it Grand Design, if you will.

Tactics is the art of disposing armed forces in order of battle and of organizing operations, especially during contact with an enemy.

for example , The asia-pacific rebalancing from USA, no military comflict, but make China very uncomfortable. The AIIB and TPP are all this kind of strategy.

you say all I can think about = Money , in a sence maybe you are right, because the economic is a kind of power, useful power.
Yes, economy is a tool of power peddling. It is a powerful tool for the country that is applying it, but horrible for the country on which it is being applied on.


Let me tell you some more . about China strategy to India. China has never determine India as strategic rival. The USA is .
Let me tell you something about the the equation of India and China.

India is a regional adversary in all spheres as far as China thinks and feels about India. That is why China has set in motion its 'String of Pearls Strategy. And it spooked when Sri Lanka started dismantling the inroad China made into Sri Lanka and the President stated that India and China were equal partners in Sri Lanka's development.

Here is how China reacted
Pro-India president'
Observers in international media outlets say the initiative poses a direct challenge to India. Chinese papers, however, dismiss such views, assuring that the project will benefit every country in the region.

"The authorities cite regulations and environment issues as reasons for the suspension"¦ but this is only an excuse," says the Haiwai Net article.

The commentary notes that the new Sri Lankan president is "very pro-India" and suspects Colombo may have been "facing pressure from Delhi".

However, it highlights that India is unlikely to have the economic capacity needed to help Sri Lanka, and predicts that Colombo will "still depend on Beijing for infrastructure investment in the long term".
China media: Sri Lanka investment - BBC News
so , in next 2-5years, China will invest heavily to India. increase India's economy and employment. If India still wary of china and don't trust the investment,

it will progess in AIIB manner. China will release the benefit of the doubt, all country in AIIB will supervise it. You won't refuse the invest completely harmless, that you are a Democracy, imagine what will happen if the govement refuses the invest.

This is the strategy mean. All the plan is under the SUN, no plot, unable to resist. Maybe you want to ask me ,what's China's purpose ?
Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) is a Chinese initiative.

All those mellifluous words like all country in AIIB will supervise it does not wash.

Remember what you said about Strategy and Economic power in your same post?

All countries will not supervise. China will dictate because it will use its economic clout.

Heard of International Monetary Fund (IMF) and World Bank (WB). Nice nomenclatures - 'International' and 'World'. But who controls it? Why are there always 'strings' attached whenever they give money?

Who was behind the Fall of the Asian Tigers?

International players like the IMF used their influence to attempt bigger reforms than ever before, on faster growing economies than ever before. Threat of financial collapse and withheld investment had the intended results of forcing free market reforms, and the effects on the countries themselves were disastrous. Jeffrey Sachs claimed the IMF had the most responsibility for the crash. Their shameful tactics in Asia would bring for the first time widespread criticism of the motivations and mode of operation of the IMF, as well as the ideology of the WTO, and the pitfalls of free trade and globalisation.

So, AIIB will not be an equal partnership.

Weakened the U.S. economy in the world economy scale, reduce America's influence, make a multipolar world.
Weakened because of internal politics, but not down and out. It still is the leading economic power. The multipolar facade is illusory and not real. Note what the US has done to Russia. Yes, Russia is not that stable as before, because the US is calling the shots.

By the way ,"psychological shadow", I mean you have so much distrust and suspicion to China(becaus the war in 1962 or some other else?) You can't use a rational view on India-China relationship.If you determine China as your friends, China will be your good friends. If you really determine China as your enemy , China will be your most deadly enemy.

I admit that my English is not very good, use many time to write one point. The rest will write later.
No, the 1962 War has nothing to do with my being sceptical. It is just that I have studied China and have seen its ambiguous and duplicitous manner of functioning.

China indicates in clear terms that she is desirous of being No 1 trampling all in their quest to that goal. Note how they walked into Tibet, what they are doing to Tibetans and now the Uighurs in Xinjaing. See what they are doing in SCS without any concern about the other nations who too have a claim and China along with the others should sort out the issue multilaterally. And yet, China champions 'Peaceful Coexistence'. Hardly peaceful and hardly existence!

India, Vietnam, USSR, now Myanmar who are China's neighbour has seen the treachery of pious words going foul. And USSR and Vietnam were your fraternal brothers!

China lulled the world with 'Peaceful Rise' sloganeering and came out using this period of world complacency in believing China into an armed nation out on a rampage around the neighbourhood.

Further, China has a deep sense of insecurity. And that is a dangerous psychological trait that can have ominous result.

Why do I say a 'deep sense of insecurity', you may well ask.

You build cities replicating Western cities. You build buildings replicating Western icons like the White House, Eiffel Tower, Austrian towns et al.

Why should people of one of the most ancient civilisation have to copy decadent, in comparison, western nations?

It is all because of a deep seated insecurity.

I am merely observant and sweet nothings don't impress me.
 

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What's your mean? I'm not understand. There is no military used to Taiwan, Macau and hongkong. No military conflict. One Country two system is a political strategy not military strategy.
You mean say that there is no military strategy used for Taiwan, Macau and Hong Kong ...

Look closely it is much more important and imperative that one would make others think ... military strategy is integral strategy of PRC with reference to Taiwan, Macau and Hong Kong
 

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What's your mean? I'm not understand. There is no military used to Taiwan, Macau and hongkong. No military conflict. One Country two system is a political strategy not military strategy.
China cannot use its military against Taiwan.

China knows that for obvious reasons.

It is not one country, two systems either.

It is an independent country.
 

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Guess what country this man is from



This is a photograph of a man named Lee Teng-Hui, born in Taiwan in 1923 when it was governed by Japan. He grew up speaking Taiwanese, Hakka, Japanese, and later learned Mandarin. When World War 2 broke out Lee's older brother volunteered to join the Imperial Japanese Navy and died fighting in Manila (his spirit now rests in Yasukuni Shrine). When Lee was old enough he joined the Imperial Japanese Army and attained the rank of second lieutenant, manning an anti-aircraft gun in Taiwan. When America firebombed Japan in 1945, Lee was ordered back to Japan and participated in the clean-up. After Japan's surrender, control of Taiwan was handed over to the Republic of China. Lee stayed in Japan for another year and graduated from Kyoto Imperial University. He returned to Taiwan in 1947, joined the Chinese Communist Party, and participated in the 228 Incident which was an uprising by those born in Taiwan who resented the Republic of China government that had come from the mainland to rule them, it was violently suppressed.

Lee Teng-hui became the President of Taiwan and Chairman of the KMT in 1988 and implemented direct democracy, allowing Taiwanese to directly vote for who they wanted to be President. The Chinese Communist Party was offended by the idea of democracy in a Chinese province, accused Lee of "splitting the motherland" and launched missiles over Taiwan days before the election. Despite the CCP's threat (or because of their James-Bond-Villian-esque gesture) Lee won, becoming the first democratically elected leader of Taiwan, and went on to win re-election until he finally retired in 2000.

During his rule President Lee promoted the idea of Taiwanization, the view that Taiwan is not a province of China nor a colony of Japan but rather its own unique identity (influenced by, but) separate from both.

I am more than seventy years old. Having lived under different regimes, from Japanese colonialism to Taiwan's recovery, I have greatly experienced the miseries of the Taiwanese people. In the period of Japanese colonialism, a Taiwanese would be punished by being forced to kneel out in the sun for speaking Tai-yü (Taiwanese language). The situation was the same when Taiwan was recovered: my son, Hsien-wen, and my daughter-in-law, Yüeh-yün, often wore a dunce board around their necks in the school as punishment for speaking Tai-yü... [Taiwanese peoples'] lives are influenced by history. I think the most miserable people are Taiwanese, who have always tried in vain to get their heads above the water. This was the Taiwanese situation during the period of colonialism; it was not any different after Taiwan's recovery [that is, the rule of the Chiang-era KMT]. I have deep feelings about this.
-Lee Teng-Hui (1997)

That is why some Taiwanese dislike being called "Chinese".


Lee Teng Hui dressed as a master swordsman from the manga 魁!!男塾 (Sakigake!! Otokojuku) in an ad to get the youth voting. This publicity campaign was the brainchild of Freddy Lim (林昶佐), lead singer of the Taiwanese black metal band Chthonic (閃靈樂團) and former student of the Lee Teng-hui School's young leaders' program.

*My mother grew up in Taiwan but moved to America before Lee Teng-Hui's election. She considers herself Chinese, raised me as Chinese, and when I moved to Beijing warned me not to pick up 'bad mainlander habits' like rolling up my shirt when it's hot, hahah. I am Chinese in that sense, though in this world there are many kinds of Chinese.
Why do so many people from Taiwan dislike being called Chinese? - Quora
 

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Russia China ties will be problem in future Russia is moving away any one can see . India has to be more powerful to counter future conflicts
 

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Then why the string of pearls + The proxy through Pak.



China has friends other than Pak and NoKo?
China has business associates..not friends.

Yes China is deadly enemy of its business associates so called friends. The world is seeing China looting resources in the name of investment.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRjkwBtA8L8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C24_KEfS5CQ

Pakistan LOOTING Balochistan, allows CHINA to take its RESOURCES | Tarek Fatah | Tune.pk

You said it...China is a deadly enemy to its friends :D :rofl:
so, who's india's friends?

China is a nonaligned country, pursues the no enemy diplomatic.
 
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China cannot use its military against Taiwan.

China knows that for obvious reasons.

It is not one country, two systems either.

It is an independent country.
The rebels also called another country?

Check the map of the Republic of China, their territorial claims is greater than the People's Republic of China.

According to this logic, you can separate parts of India more.
 

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O(∩_∩)O~,your relply is very interesting , in view of some words I can understand is not very accurate, I have to go find a translation software.

by the way , I don't want to impress you. I just want to know your view, and let you know my view, and try to understand the view standing in your point .

AIIB will not be an equal partnership, Yes, Asian 75%, others 25% ,of course not equal. But it's invest with no strings attached. You also join it ,you know it's rule.

You know who was behind the Fall of the Asian Tigers, but why you want to obey US calling. They have ability to make India Fall too.

India join the The brics bank, join AIIB , is it also to prevent the US?

The western media said China threat everyday ,you say China have a "deep sense of insecurity" ? funny. Ask obama "Do you feel security?" , hehe.

If you trust US , you will die soon.
 

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