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India buys very very very very very few EVs. Japan just a few more and BYD has dealerships there :)

95% of all EVs are in China, US and EU. The other 5% is for rest of the World :)

Among the RoW, it is ASEAN and Brazil dominating. India's market is very very tiny even in the remaining 5%. So losing that market is kind of sad but irrelevent for now ;)

But having ASEAN and Brazil is better :D

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In China, the number of new electric car registrations reached 8.1 million in 2023, increasing by 35% relative to 2022.

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Production and manufacturing: the bad news
Fact: Electric cars are more emissions-intensive to produce than gas cars

Fiction:
Electric cars are not green because they are more emissions-intensive to produce

Fact: Today, all-electric vehicles are not truly emissions-free, since the grid still produces emissions to generate electricity

Fiction
: Dirty electricity generation negates the environmental benefit of EVs


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Production and manufacturing: the bad news
Fact: Electric cars are more emissions-intensive to produce than gas cars

Fiction:
Electric cars are not green because they are more emissions-intensive to produce

Fact: Today, all-electric vehicles are not truly emissions-free, since the grid still produces emissions to generate electricity

Fiction
: Dirty electricity generation negates the environmental benefit of EVs


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fact lots electric cars lots of CO2 emmision of dirty electric grid
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manufacturing: the bad news
Fact: Electric cars are more emissions-intensive to produce than gas cars

Fiction:
Electric cars are not green because they are more emissions-intensive to produce

Fact: Today, all-electric vehicles are not truly emissions-free, since the grid still produces emissions to generate electricity

Fiction
: Dirty electricity generation negates the environmental benefit of EVs

With a single person in a non-electric car, Institute for Sensible Transport data shows driving produces an average of 243.8g of CO2 emissions per person per kilometre travelled, based on the average Victorian car.

Electric vehicles (EVs) produce lower emissions than their petrol counterparts, but if you are charging off the grid, fossil fuels are still ultimately being burned to get you from point A to point B.

Sensible Transport data reveals an EV on grid power that is transporting only the driver produces 209.1g of CO2 per person per kilometre, based on a Tesla Model S in Victoria.
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If Solar Panels Are So Clean, Why Do They Produce So Much Toxic Waste?

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Solar panels often contain lead, cadmium, and other toxic chemicals that cannot be removed without breaking apart the entire panel. “Approximately 90% of most PV modules are made up of glass,” notes San Jose State environmental studies professor Dustin Mulvaney. “However, this glass often cannot be recycled as float glass due to impurities. Common problematic impurities in glass include plastics, lead, cadmium and antimony.”
The fact that cadmium can be washed out of solar modules by rainwater is increasingly a concern for local environmentalists like the Concerned Citizens of Fawn Lake in Virginia, where a 6,350 acre solar farm to partly power Microsoft data centers is being proposed.

“We estimate there are 100,000 pounds of cadmium contained in the 1.8 million panels,” Sean Fogarty of the group told me. “Leaching from broken panels damaged during natural events — hail storms, tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, etc. — and at decommissioning is a big concern.”



Aside from regular PV cells, PV thin films are also used in solar panel manufacturing. These films are made of the following:

  • Copper Indium Gallium Diselenide (CIS/CIGS)
  • Cadmium Telluride (CdTe)
  • Amorphous Silicon (a-Si)
  • Cadmium Hallium (di)Selenide
  • Hexafluoroethane
  • Lead
  • Polyvinyl Fluoride
The materials used in making thin film solar panels can be toxic. These toxic chemicals are introduced into the environment in two stages of a solar panel’s lifespan – production and disposal. During production, these chemicals are gathered, manipulated, heated, cooled, and a plethora of other processes which involve human beings in every step. Not to mention the exhaust gasses that factories spew into the atmosphere.


It’s no surprise then that the chemicals used in solar panels are linked to high levels of cancer, reproductive problems and other illnesses. For example, when a factory in China dumped a chemical byproduct of solar panel manufacturing near farmers’ fields, it destroyed crops and made villagers sick. At CoRE, one of our primary goals is to reduce or eliminate the use of toxic chemicals in solar panels.

In the electronics industry, a “lack of environmental planning and oversight resulted in widespread toxic chemical pollution contributing to premature death of workers and people living in industrial production communities.”

Electric cars do emit particulate matter from their tires, a greater amount than ICE vehicles do because they’re heavier. The PM is also a microplasic (rubber). But obviously near zero COx/NOx/SOx.
 

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here are some chemicals used in the manufacturing process to prepare silicon and make the wafers for monocrystalline and polycrystalline panels. One of the most toxic chemicals created as a byproduct of this process is silicon tetrachloride. This chemical, if not handled and disposed of properly, can lead to burns on your skin, harmful air pollutants that increase lung disease, and if exposed to water can release hydrochloric acid, which is a corrosive substance bad for human and environmental health.
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For any user of solar panels, this is not an immediate risk as it only affects manufacturers and recyclers. More disconcerting, however, is the environmental impact of these chemicals. Based on installed capacity and power-related weight, we can estimate that by 2016, photovoltaics had spread about 11,000 tons of lead and about 800 tons of cadmium. A hazard summary of cadmium compounds produced by the EPA points out that exposure to cadmium can lead to serious lung irritation and long-lasting impairment of pulmonary functions. Exposure to lead hardly needs further explanation.

Recycling Solar Panels
In one 2003 study, researchers drew attention to the fact that cadmium is the benefactor of special environmental treatment, which allows solar energy to be more economically efficient (as far as that word quite applies to solar energy even in the current state of subsidization). They wrote:

If they were classified as “hazardous” according to Federal or State criteria, then special requirements for material handling, disposal, record keeping, and reporting would escalate the cost of decommissioning.

This mirrors an answer given by Cara Libby, Senior Technical Leader of Solar Energy at the Electric Power Research Institute (EPRI), who admits that there is no lucrative amount of salvageable parts on any type of solar panel. She adds:

In Europe, we’ve seen that when it’s mandated, it gets done. Either it becomes economical or it gets mandated. But I’ve heard that it will have to be mandated because it won’t ever be economical.

It is no wonder that Chinese factories, when confronted with the exorbitant costs (both financial and environmental) of decomposing solar panel chemicals properly, prefer to release them into the environment rather than dispose of them in an environmentally safe manner.

Stanford Magazine also points out that solar energy has a higher carbon footprint than wind and nuclear energy. Ray Weiss, a professor of Geochemistry at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, explains that a number of solar panels release nitrogen trifluoride (NF3), a chemical compound 17,000 times worse for the atmosphere than carbon dioxide. As recently as 2015, he explained that many manufacturers were still struggling to figure out how to contain its release into the atmosphere.
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"China alone makes up about 50 per cent of global coal consumption, and coal is about 60 per cent of total Chinese energy consumption," she said.

But the old semiconductor fabrication plants, known as fabs, had an ugly side. Toxic chemicals seeped into the ground and water sources near semiconductor plants and made their way into the bodies of workers and even their children.

Are Silicon Chips Hazardous After Manufacturing?

Even the small, metallic particles used during semiconductor production don't just disappear. These compounds can remain in finished semiconductor products, like solar panels. There's concern that these harmful nanoparticles may be released or leach into other materials during handling—thus contacting the skin or inadvertently entering the body.


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However, each poses a fundamental hazard to human health during acute or repeated exposure.

It is important to note that these metals can exist in different forms—whether they're solids, powders, or liquids. OSHA and other agencies define workplace exposure limits to these elements, while workers and floor engineers wear PPE to help restrict exposure.




 
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here are some chemicals used in the manufacturing process to prepare silicon and make the wafers for monocrystalline and polycrystalline panels. One of the most toxic chemicals created as a byproduct of this process is silicon tetrachloride. This chemical, if not handled and disposed of properly, can lead to burns on your skin, harmful air pollutants that increase lung disease, and if exposed to water can release hydrochloric acid, which is a corrosive substance bad for human and environmental health.
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For any user of solar panels, this is not an immediate risk as it only affects manufacturers and recyclers. More disconcerting, however, is the environmental impact of these chemicals. Based on installed capacity and power-related weight, we can estimate that by 2016, photovoltaics had spread about 11,000 tons of lead and about 800 tons of cadmium. A hazard summary of cadmium compounds produced by the EPA points out that exposure to cadmium can lead to serious lung irritation and long-lasting impairment of pulmonary functions. Exposure to lead hardly needs further explanation.

Recycling Solar Panels
In one 2003 study, researchers drew attention to the fact that cadmium is the benefactor of special environmental treatment, which allows solar energy to be more economically efficient (as far as that word quite applies to solar energy even in the current state of subsidization). They wrote:

If they were classified as “hazardous” according to Federal or State criteria, then special requirements for material handling, disposal, record keeping, and reporting would escalate the cost of decommissioning.

This mirrors an answer given by Cara Libby, Senior Technical Leader of Solar Energy at the Electric Power Research Institute (EPRI), who admits that there is no lucrative amount of salvageable parts on any type of solar panel. She adds:

In Europe, we’ve seen that when it’s mandated, it gets done. Either it becomes economical or it gets mandated. But I’ve heard that it will have to be mandated because it won’t ever be economical.

It is no wonder that Chinese factories, when confronted with the exorbitant costs (both financial and environmental) of decomposing solar panel chemicals properly, prefer to release them into the environment rather than dispose of them in an environmentally safe manner.

Stanford Magazine also points out that solar energy has a higher carbon footprint than wind and nuclear energy. Ray Weiss, a professor of Geochemistry at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, explains that a number of solar panels release nitrogen trifluoride (NF3), a chemical compound 17,000 times worse for the atmosphere than carbon dioxide. As recently as 2015, he explained that many manufacturers were still struggling to figure out how to contain its release into the atmosphere.
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"China alone makes up about 50 per cent of global coal consumption, and coal is about 60 per cent of total Chinese energy consumption," she said.

But the old semiconductor fabrication plants, known as fabs, had an ugly side. Toxic chemicals seeped into the ground and water sources near semiconductor plants and made their way into the bodies of workers and even their children.

Are Silicon Chips Hazardous After Manufacturing?

Even the small, metallic particles used during semiconductor production don't just disappear. These compounds can remain in finished semiconductor products, like solar panels. There's concern that these harmful nanoparticles may be released or leach into other materials during handling—thus contacting the skin or inadvertently entering the body.


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However, each poses a fundamental hazard to human health during acute or repeated exposure.

It is important to note that these metals can exist in different forms—whether they're solids, powders, or liquids. OSHA and other agencies define workplace exposure limits to these elements, while workers and floor engineers wear PPE to help restrict exposure.




Overall, solar energy is considered to be environmentally friendly. It generates a fraction of the greenhouse gas emissions as fossil fuels, emits zero sulfur dioxide or nitrogen oxide emissions, and can have a minimal impact on the land.



Is Solar Energy Sustainable?

Solar energy is clean, renewable, and more sustainable than fossil fuels at every stage of the energy production process. Electricity from fossil fuels requires finite and limited resources, like oil or coal.

 

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Overall, solar energy is considered to be environmentally friendly. It generates a fraction of the greenhouse gas emissions as fossil fuels, emits zero sulfur dioxide or nitrogen oxide emissions, and can have a minimal impact on the land.



Is Solar Energy Sustainable?

Solar energy is clean, renewable, and more sustainable than fossil fuels at every stage of the energy production process. Electricity from fossil fuels requires finite and limited resources, like oil or coal.

Experts say that millions of aging panels could have significant environmental impacts — especially since China doesn’t have specific regulations on solar panel recycling. The International Renewable Energy Agency predicted that by 2050, about 20 million tons of PV panel waste could be accumulated in China — the largest amount of solar trash worldwide. And according to a 2018 study from Tsinghua University’s School of Environment in Beijing, the panels have been piling up since 2015.

Mary Hutzler, senior fellow at the Institute for Energy Research in Washington D.C., said that solar panels are manufactured using hazardous materials — including sulfuric acid and phosphine gas — making them difficult to recycle. They also contain toxic metals like lead, chromium, and cadmium, which can be harmful to humans and are likely to leak from electronic waste dumps into drinking water supplies.

But in China, no recycling facilities are in sight, despite the government's push to promote solar energy. China’s switch to solar is part of its plans to combat air pollution and a critical step in meeting its Paris Agreement targets to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. China is halting construction on new coal-powered plants that emit the hazardous pollutants that often choke cities in a thick blanket of toxic smog.


quartz is refined into silicon in industrial furnaces that emit carbon dioxide and sulfur dioxide. It must then be further refined into polysilicon, producing silicon tetrachloride, a highly toxic compound. When combined with water, silicon tetrachloride produces hydrochloric acid. The act of producing one ton of polysilicon leads to three to four tons of silicon tetrachloride waste.

In fact, solar produces 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than does nuclear energy, according to Environmental Progress, a Berkeley, California, nonprofit that supports the expanded use of nuclear energy.
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Silicon tetrachloride is a colorless, noninflammable, volatile liquid with a pungent, suffocating odor. It fumes in air and is corrosive to metals and tissues in the presence of moisture. In experiments at Argonne National Laboratory in which it was mixed with water and stirred under room conditions, about 35% of the theoretical yield of HCl evolved as a gas in the first minute. It also reacts very rapidly with alcohols, primary and secondary amines, ammonia, and other compounds containing active hydrogen atoms. Thermal decomposition or burning may produce dense white clouds of silicon oxide particles and hydrogen chloride.

Silicon tetrachloride is a by-product in the production of polysilicon, the key component of sunlight-capturing wafers in solar energy panels, and for each ton of polysilicon produced, at least four tons of silicon tetrachloride liquid waste are generated. Pollution by silicon tetrachloride has been reported in China, associated with the increased demand for photovoltaic cells that has been stimulated by subsidy programs.

 

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Overall, solar energy is considered to be environmentally friendly. It generates a fraction of the greenhouse gas emissions as fossil fuels, emits zero sulfur dioxide or nitrogen oxide emissions, and can have a minimal impact on the land.



Is Solar Energy Sustainable?

Solar energy is clean, renewable, and more sustainable than fossil fuels at every stage of the energy production process. Electricity from fossil fuels requires finite and limited resources, like oil or coal.

n the face of this mountain of PV waste, China must increase its capacity for PV disposal and recycling. A typical solar panel is composed of materials including glass, copper, aluminum, silicon, silver, gallium, indium and fluorine. Some of them are recoverable, like copper and aluminum, while others are difficult to recycle, like fluorine, which is a pollutant. Recycling the

recyclable components of PV panels will save resources, and properly disposing of the other components will mitigate environmental pollution, particularly water and soil pollution.

Unlike for batteries, laptops and TVs, there is no established system for recycling PV panels in China. Although some small companies and workshops are already involved in the disposal and recycling of PV waste, the lack of systematic disposal and management is actually storing up environmental troubles for the future.

China's PV waste recycling has encountered two obstacles. One is a lack of related policies. Currently, the disposal of solar panels is subject to the same rules as ordinary solid waste and there are no specific schemes for the disposal of PV waste. As a result, PV waste is either piling up in power stations, or being recycled and disposed of by small workshops as ordinary waste.

The other obstacle is that China still lacks mature PV panel dismantling technologies. Mostly, PV modules are dismantled in simple ways. Waste tends to be reused as construction and filling materials. This requires the use of machines that produce big noises and intense dust. Particularly, fluorine cannot be properly disposed of. Although there is research on how to dismantle solar panels in an environmentally responsible way, the huge costs and inputs needed to do so have deterred most attempts.

China is now in urgent need of specific policies on the disposal and recycling of PV waste to standardize the work. More importantly, there must be compulsory requirements for recycling on the part of PV panel producers or operators, backed by stringent laws and regulations. By no means should PV waste be left in the wild fields or be collected by small workshops and disposed of as they like. Meanwhile, the government should offer guidance and support to producers and operators to help them upgrade PV waste recycling technologies and minimize the pollution caused in the process.

A bellwether in terms of PV panel production and consumption, China is expected to set an example for the rest of world in terms of PV waste disposal and recycling.

Although the use of solar energy is recognized as a key technology aiming at low-carbon transition, solar energy is not zero emissions because of the embedded emissions in PV panels. Life cycle assessment (LCA) demonstrates that the solar module production requires massive non-metallic and metallic materials from mining activities (Komoto and Lee, 2018), and solar panel recycling also needs energy input, significant carbon emissions could be a looming challenge for all PV installation countries (Wang et al., 2022). As the demand for the installation capacity of renewable energy generators increases, more non-renewable resources would be mined from the earth to reach the production quantity requirement, therefore raising the concern of environmental pollution, ecosystem destruction as well as resource depletion (Lebre et al., 2017; Li et al., 2019). S

This study shows that the accumulated lifecycle emissions would exceed 5000 Mt CO2eq by 2060, with the most rapid emission increase in 2050–2060. A significant amount of carbon emissions could be reduced with advanced production technology and thorough waste treatment. Although large emission variations were found among provinces, the main carbon emitters shifted from the northwest region to the eastern region of China. Our study fulfils the research gap by estimating the carbon footprints of solar panels in China's provinces based on different production and waste treatment techniques. Although some uncertainties occur in the calculations due to different panel efficiency and performance ratio, the overall trend shall be the same and there is limited influence on results. Future studies concerning these factors are encouraged.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0959652623046115
 
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India buys very very very very very few EVs. Japan just a few more and BYD has dealerships there :)

95% of all EVs are in China, US and EU. The other 5% is for rest of the World :)

Among the RoW, it is ASEAN and Brazil dominating. India's market is very very tiny even in the remaining 5%. So losing that market is kind of sad but irrelevent for now ;)

But having ASEAN and Brazil is better :D

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In China, the number of new electric car registrations reached 8.1 million in 2023, increasing by 35% relative to 2022.

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If that's the case why's BYD so desperate to enter India & MG Motors poised to increase its investment in India when India has asked for dilution in its stakes in their Indian venture which they've duly complied with ? 😭
 

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If that's the case why's BYD so desperate to enter India & MG Motors poised to increase its investment in India when India has asked for dilution in its stakes in their Indian venture which they've duly complied with ? 😭
In India, 95% of "EVs" there do not have four wheels ;)

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BYD and MG do not compete in the 3-wheel market so the "desperate" adjective is added only by you :)

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Chinese exports have been growing faster in volume than anyone else -- this is despite the Japanese yen falling much faster than the RMB and should have had an edge! :)

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Chinese exports are not beating competition on just price anymore :)
 

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In India, 95% of "EVs" there do not have four wheels ;)

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BYD and MG do not compete in the 3-wheel market so the "desperate" adjective is added only by you :)

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The problem with Han slaves is their recently acquired riches which then imparts to them all the characteristics of the noveau riche. What would these characteristics be? A know all attitude, plenty of arrogance, a sense of invulnerablilty further compounded by the notion that there's nobody as intelligent as the noveau riche Han slave. Which is the reason I've asked you - do you take us & the rest of the world as fools? 😭

For perspective all the aristocracy, businessmen, academics etc escaped out after CCP won the civil war. Hence the discourse with them is far more civil for they've what one calls old money, respect & charm. 😭

Of course being of Han descent they're as mercenary as the Han slaves in Zhonggou & won't think twice before selling off their mother sister daughter & wife if the price is right but they'd go about it in a sophisticated manner as opposed to the Han slaves of CCP controlled Zhonggou. 😭

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Now all these data points are old ones which have been shared innumerable times by myself what to speak of other members but you've both the attention span & intelligence of a gold fish. 😭

Can't blame you too as the CCP hasn't increased the rate per post for its wumaos which still remains 50 cents per post (very strange considering the CCP staged a revolution to improve the lot of peasants & workers ) two decades after the scheme was first introduced with the result you've to supplement your meagre income by posting in multiple sites. 😭

How would you remember what you posted to whom & when which wout be a strain even for the intelligent ones which you certainly aren't?😭
 

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The problem with Han slaves is their recently acquired riches which then imparts to them all the characteristics of the noveau riche. What would these characteristics be? A know all attitude, plenty of arrogance, a sense of invulnerablilty further compounded by the notion that there's nobody as intelligent as the noveau riche Han slave. Which is the reason I've asked you - do you take us & the rest of the world as fools? 😭

For perspective all the aristocracy, businessmen, academics etc escaped out after CCP won the civil war. Hence the discourse with them is far more civil for they've what one calls old money, respect & charm. 😭

Of course being of Han descent they're as mercenary as the Han slaves in Zhonggou & won't think twice before selling off their mother sister daughter & wife if the price is right but they'd go about it in a sophisticated manner as opposed to the Han slaves of CCP controlled Zhonggou. 😭

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Now all these data points are old ones which have been shared innumerable times by myself what to speak of other members but you've both the attention span & intelligence of a gold fish. 😭

Can't blame you too as the CCP hasn't increased the rate per post for its wumaos which still remains 50 cents per post (very strange considering the CCP staged a revolution to improve the lot of peasants & workers ) two decades after the scheme was first introduced with the result you've to supplement your meagre income by posting in multiple sites. 😭

How would you remember what you posted to whom & when which wout be a strain even for the intelligent ones which you certainly aren't?😭
Why "desperate" as a term for India when BYD and MG are looking for plants ALL OVER the world? Aren't you just adding that adjective for India over some imagined importance over Indonesia, Thailand, Hungary and more coming in the future? ;)

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If that's the case why's BYD so desperate to enter India & MG Motors poised to increase its investment in India when India has asked for dilution in its stakes in their Indian venture which they've duly complied with ? 😭
the fantasy all these han have is ecological technology is cheap.

It is not, a truely ecologiocal society has very high prices, why?

Simple if you input all expenses for cleaning the water soil air and recycling EVs, prices go much higher, further more the heavier the less ecological is an EV

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So ideally a truely green society has very high prices since there are many included taxes for ecological technologies to clean the mess.

China`s electric grid is dirty so dirty is mostly coal, their cars are also cheap because they cut safety, and recycling, for example an ecological tax should be applied to all EVs and same is for Solar panels since what China sells is the product but no the price of recycling the solar panel, batteries or EV.


In fact is better India uses lighter EVs since they pollute less
 
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Why "desperate" as a term for India when BYD and MG are looking for plants ALL OVER the world? Aren't you just adding that adjective for India over some imagined importance over Indonesia, Thailand, Hungary and more coming in the future? ;)

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BYD will not invest in Mexico easily since to export to the USA they need to have factories in the USA since all made cars in Mexico can not be exported without tariffs this wanker has wanker dreams, all cars exported from mexico need USA made parts with at least USD $16 dollars salaries per hour.

Plus the Americans all ready warned Mexico they will put more tariffs if Mexico violates the free trade agreement.



Under pressure from the US, Mexico suspends incentives for Chinese electric vehicle manufacturers
Following US pressure, officials made clear they would not provide incentives and would suspend any future meetings with Chinese automakers.


Trump reads the card to Mexico and China: if we export Chinese cars made in Mexico, they will pay 100% extra tariffs in the US.

 
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In India, 95% of "EVs" there do not have four wheels ;)

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BYD and MG do not compete in the 3-wheel market so the "desperate" adjective is added only by you :)

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wanker does not understand the more passengers transported and the less batteries used the more ecological, thus India is polluting less than China even using electric vehicles since lighter EVs use less batteries
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The prototype engineered by Ocaña is a proposal by this designer to provide a solution to many of the problems suffered in the country to adopt electromobility and reduce polluting emissions.


In Mexico, the adoption of electric cars has been limited largely by the high costs of producing and acquiring this technology.

However, Ocaña hopes that his automotive proposal is a solution to build electrified cars so that their manufacture and use are economical and sustainable.


Read also: Automotive companies will look for presidential candidates to promote electric cars

Above all, he considers that with small electric cars like the one he designed, the adoption of electromobility and the search to reduce polluting emissions would not be limited to first-world countries and the more affluent population.

“Mitigating the climate crisis is not going to be an act of a few or a certain purchasing power. And there Latin America plays an important role: how can we ensure that middle and low-income demographics are included in strategies to mitigate climate change? "With ultralight cars!" Ocaña expressed in an interview.

This is the Mexican minicar

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The prototype of the VEU light-cab, as the Mexican minicar designed by Fernando Ocaña is called, has a weight of 420 kilos, a level well below units like Tesla, whose weight can reach 2 tons.

The low weight of the car means that its manufacturing means fewer emissions.

Likewise, Ocaña highlights that his proposal uses a battery that reduces the need for lithium: “It has a 3 kilowatt / hour battery. While a Tesla has one of 100 kilowatts/hour. So, we are talking about reducing the amount of lithium that will be needed for the electrification of mobility by 50 times.


 
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Why "desperate" as a term for India when BYD and MG are looking for plants ALL OVER the world? Aren't you just adding that adjective for India over some imagined importance over Indonesia, Thailand, Hungary and more coming in the future? ;)

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You are desperate when as a Han company who has global aspirations should've done your homework about the prospective market you're planning to invest in wherein it's been made quite clear to the CCP masters & its slaves that India doesn't want CCP investment either directly or indirectly by means of law not merely through dialogue by severely restricting investments from countries with which it shares a border. 😭

Now this piece of legislation was promulgated way back in 2020 immediately after the Galwan clashes whereas the BYD investment plans tried a backdoor entry nearly two years after such a legislation was promulgated. I call that desperation apart from shamelessness. To the Han its business as usual for lying cheating swindling comes naturally to the Han .😭

Ditto for MG Motors . Since their entry & consequently investment in India preceded the Galwan clashes , they were asked to dilute their holdings within MG Motors India such that they would become the minority shareholder . Any self respecting international company would've quit India especially in the light of your statement that India hardly buys any 4 wheeler EV but not the Han who's especially thick skinned . MG Motors India diluted its shareholding .😭


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I realize the Han as a people are particularly shameless & thick skinned but are you as a people totally devoid of any reasonable intelligence which distinguishes a man from an animal?

How many times have you posted this lousy bit of propaganda out here & how many times have members here debunked it only for you to return with the same trash again?
 

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