China Economy: News & Discussion

[MiG-29SMT]

If it has a monopoly then it needs to be subjected to anti trust investigations and sanctions. Just because it is an European firm doesn't mean it is free from anti trust provisions that Europe has been using against other companies.

I agree but politicians are liars, they always follow orders from the rich that happens anywhere, but my point is technologically they are ahead of China

 

[ym888]

The wind is picking up, but only in China

The wind industry is finally showing signs of recovery after years of stagnation, with a record 117 gigawatts of new turbines installed globally last year, according to the Global Wind Energy Council. However, this growth is largely driven by China, which has been a key player in the wind...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

 

[rockdog]

This is Liang Mong-Song:
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He is the co-CEO of SMIC and the man many say is one of the very greatest of China's high tech's legendary engineer-leaders along with Ren Zhengfei of Huawei and Wang Chuanfu of BYD.

He is Taiwanese

He donated all his salary earned in mainland to China Education Fund.

I think he has very blue background.

 

[ym888]

China's economy collapsed in the morning,

Take over the world at night

China Outweighs G-7 as Leading Driver of Global Economic Growth

China will be the top contributor to global growth over the next five years, with its share bigger than all Group of Seven countries combined, according to Bloomberg calculations using International Monetary Fund forecasts.

www.bloomberg.com

 

[SexyChineseLady]

How many of the sub assemblies of these aircraft are imported & whom are you importing it from? What happens when your ties with those countries deteriorate to a point of no return as it looks increasingly the case today.

For your information at the height of the cold war the former USSR had its own civilian airliner industry which was present only in the USSR & Warsaw Pact countries. The civil airliner industry is still present in Russia albeit at a reduced scale & they are much more self sufficient than you are in the sense they don't rely on any imports to mfg their airliner

Haven't we gone over the same topic hundreds of time out here? Like a retard you keep posting the same set of pictures dozens of time in a week & every once in a while we ask you the same question to which we receive no answers.

A few days later it's rinse & repeat . That's what gaokao fail wumaos do. That's why you're considered a wumao out here for repeating the same propaganda


What's this table supposed to be? Your annual state debt? Or that of all those realty firms in China which went bankrupt.



You mean like the CCP killed 100 million of Han slaves right thru the civil War, the grand purges, the 5 pests campaign & the great leap forward, the cultural revolution the Tiananmen square massacre, the Wuhan virus pandemic etc.



Your prosperity is not even 50 years old & look at you boasting. That's why the wise say the neo rich have the money, they never have the class for class is cultivated. It can't be bought.

You won't find the Chinese from Taiwan or HK ever boasting. Then again all the nobility, the scholars the academia the businessmen the bourgeoisie shifted to Taiwan & HK once the communists took over Their achievements speak for themselves which is why they have class whereas the peasants took over power in China & when peasants get rich they boast like you do.


The same CCP which launched one murderous campaign after another got you this prosperity. There's no guarantee once the situation goes out of hand they won't subject you to what they have in the past just to maintain control . On the contrary there's every possibility they'd do exactly that for they have their track record of doing so in the past


You mean the CCP is now reduced to plying semi porn to keep its slaves amused. Interesting.

The Indian diaspora is doing a lot for India. Where do you think all these permissions for setting up SMC & other major development centers of US based MNCs are coming from ? They're coming from the same Satya Nadella Sundar Pichai & dozens of CEO's of those US based multi billion dollar MNCs. Why don't you utilize some of your time productively & read up more on the world & India instead of dishing out the same propaganda day after day

That is a Y-20 that the CJ1000A being tested on. As a military plane, there is no foreign parts from the West

It is a large military aircraft with a civilian turbofan flying in your face but it is still just "propaganda" to jealous people

I can tell you that Taiwanese and Hong Kongers (Hongkies) brag all the time. We are proud of what we accomplished. And we pour money, talent and skills back into China so they can advance from their unfortunate state under communism and be just as wealthy as we are

I do not see the same for India. Where are your Taiwanese and Hongkies? How come you do not have a single commercial semicon fab?

And how can you let a bunch of communists be five times wealthier than you are?!?!

 

[SexyChineseLady]

This is like the Indian generic drugs and Chinese API situation. It benefits both countries!

Monocrystalline silicon wafers are used to make diodes, transistors, chips, or solar cells

Indian imports of monocrystalline silicon wafers from China have surged, why?

India almost doubled its imports of silicon wafers from China in 2023, highlighting India's expansion in solar cells and modules amid rising dependence on China's materials.

www.digitimes.com

 

[SexyChineseLady]

Chery will be building cars in Spain!

 

[SexyChineseLady]

After accounting from trans-shipments from Central Asia, China accounted for nearly 60% of all Russian imports!

 

[ym888]

He donated all his salary earned in mainland to China Education Fund.

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I think he has very blue background.

Thank you, Mr. Liang, for your contribution.

China is currently developing advanced process chips based on DUV

Huawei's Kirin chip adopts different technical routes, and the technical capability is equivalent to 5 nm and 3 nm. The chip that will launch mate70 in the second half of the year is Kirin 9100, and it takes less than half a year to wait for good news.

An optimistic estimate for China's homegrown EUV is that it will be completed within three years.

Finally, thank you to the two aging presidents of the United States. They managed to do what China's leaders could not, they actually united the Chinese semiconductor technology industry.

 

[Azaad]

That is a Y-20 that the CJ1000A being tested on. As a military plane, there is no foreign parts from the West

It is a large military aircraft with a civilian turbofan flying in your face but it is still just "propaganda" to jealous people

HaiYaa !!

So the logical question which should be asked is why isn't China then using it's own parts on the COMAC C-919 unless of course the imports for these COMAC airliners are diverted to the Y-20 which is why wumaos keep coming here with an order book for COMAC running in thousands whereas what's actually produced & delivered in unknown nor does anybody particularly care about it.

Logic of course is alien to propaganda hence to Wumaos which is rhe reason the MSS prefers taking in Gaokao fail people on its payrolls like you.

We won't be surprised in the least if tomorrow some such investigation by the US or the EU comes up with the same findings & COMAC goes on the list of banned entities much like most of your SMC industry.

I can tell you that Taiwanese and Hong Kongers (Hongkies) brag all the time. We are proud of what we accomplished. And we pour money, talent and skills back into China so they can advance from their unfortunate state under communism and be just as wealthy as we are
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You mean the Taiwanese or Hong Kongers are essentially into social service is it , which is why they're investing in China ? That's how the made their fortunes I guess . And here we ordinary mortals thought the CCP gave them special concessions which included suspension of labour rights & minimum wages plus guarantee of investment. Silly us .

I suppose you know better about the Taiwanese & Hong Kongers habit of bragging but then it's to be expected. The entire Han race is disgusting & obnoxious. It goes with the territory I guess.

I do not see the same for India. Where are your Taiwanese and Hongkies? How come you do not have a single commercial semicon fab?

I urge you to visit the thread on the Indian SMC industry to acquaint yourself with the latest happenings in that field & cease embarassing yourself unless you've a fetish for being humiliated & insulted which probably comes from the "century of humiliation + 75 years."

And how can you let a bunch of communists be five times wealthier than you are?!?!
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We also didn't let our government kill 100 millions of us which had any government in India tried we'd have killed them in return . Now this is the most important difference between the Han & the Indian people.

The Han prize money of everything which is why they traded money for freedom . No Indian would even think on such terms for freedom is what differentiates a man from an animal or a Hanimal in this case.

You put an Indian or any other nationality in a prison & he'd strive his best to get out whereas a Han will thank his prisoners for providing him with a roof over his head & 2 meals a day. That's the difference between the free world & an open air prison called Zhongguo.

 

[SexyChineseLady]

Thank you, Mr. Liang, for your contribution.

China is currently developing advanced process chips based on DUV

Huawei's Kirin chip adopts different technical routes, and the technical capability is equivalent to 5 nm and 3 nm. The chip that will launch mate70 in the second half of the year is Kirin 9100, and it takes less than half a year to wait for good news.

An optimistic estimate for China's homegrown EUV is that it will be completed within three years.

Finally, thank you to the two aging presidents of the United States. They managed to do what China's leaders could not, they actually united the Chinese semiconductor technology industry.

There are many Taiwanese and Overseas Chinese being hired for the new Huawei R&D development center in Shanghai! EUV is among one of its major focus!

There are new hires of talent who were previously at all of greatest semicon firms in the world -- many from TSMC, ASML, Samsung, Nikon and many others. Many are Taiwanese, many are Overseas Chinese along with Japanese and Koreans

I can't imagine what this center will produce in the coming years! So exciting!!!

 

[Azaad]

This is like the Indian generic drugs and Chinese API situation. It benefits both countries!

Monocrystalline silicon wafers are used to make diodes, transistors, chips, or solar cells

Indian imports of monocrystalline silicon wafers from China have surged, why?

India almost doubled its imports of silicon wafers from China in 2023, highlighting India's expansion in solar cells and modules amid rising dependence on China's materials.

www.digitimes.com

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Excellent development. From importing solar panels whole sale , Indian mfg has now progressed to only importing the wafers within 10 years. I expect within the next 10 years the entire solar panel ecosystem to be indigenized within India.

As far as the imports of API is concerned thanks to the API scheme , our imports have come down . However it'd come down substantially within the next 2-4 years. I believe the GoI is targeting 2033-34 for zero imports of API & seeking to be an exporter shortly .

Once again none of this would be possible without the clashes in Galwan in 2020. Thank You Emperor Xi - son of heaven & Great Helmsman 2.0

None of this would've been possible without you. In fact had Galwan not happened forget about Silicon wafers for mfg solar panels or API , we'd be importing BYD junk in substantial numbers endangering our own auto industry or would be flooded with Tik Tok & other low IQ apps by bytedance , etc

Once again we owe a debt of gratitude to great helmsman 2.0 . Do convey the gratitude of this forum & every Indian to him thru the MSS.

 

[SexyChineseLady]

We also didn't let our government kill 100 millions of us which had any government in India tried we'd have killed them in return . Now this is the most important difference between the Han & the Indian people.

China wouldn't be 5 times wealthier than India if they actually did kill "100 millions" of Chinese

I think you might actually believe your own lies about other peoples because you are jealous and live in a delusional world of envy ...

But in the real world, money doesn't lie

A country killing its own people or creating slaves CANNOT become wealthier than a country with free peoples -- that is universal truth.

So either China is more free than your lies or India is less free than you people pretend.

 

[ym888]

There are many Taiwanese and Overseas Chinese being hired for the new Huawei R&D development center in Shanghai! EUV is among one of its major focus!

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There are new hires of talent who were previously at all of greatest semicon firms in the world -- many from TSMC, ASML, Samsung, Nikon and many others. Many are Taiwanese, many are Overseas Chinese along with Japanese and Koreans

I can't imagine what this center will produce in the coming years! So exciting!!!

Next year's mate80 will be a surprise

 

[Azaad]

China wouldn't be 5 times wealthier than India if they actually did kill "100 millions" of Chinese

I think you might actually believe your own lies about other peoples because you are jealous and live in a delusional world of envy ...

But in the real world, money doesn't lie

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A country killing its own people or creating slaves CANNOT become wealthier than a country with free peoples -- that is universal truth.

So either China is more free than your lies or India is less free than you people pretend.

Well then you should explain how many Han slaves died in the Civil War , the great purges , the 5 pests campaign & the great leap forward , the cultural revolution , the Tiananmen Square massacre , the Wuhan virus pandemic etc .

Let's start from the bottom shall we ? What's the official figures on the number of people killed in the Wuhan virus pandemic ?

 

[SexyChineseLady]

Next year's mate80 will be a surprise

Mate 70 in October will be surprise enough -- new chip set

 

[ym888]

Mate 70 in October will be surprise enough -- new chip set

The launch of the mate 70 could be a simple ceremony.

Next year's mate80 launch is said to be a big event,

 

[SexyChineseLady]

All across Asia on the Huawei P70!

 

[Azaad]

All across Asia on the Huawei P70!
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So Indonesians are reviewing the latest Huawei phones. It's easy for the casual bystander to think that Huawei might have some great following in Indonesia , consequently great sales. However what is the reality ? Let's see what Huawei itself has to say about this ? Linking an article from the Huawei website out here -

Why Did Huawei Stop Selling in Indonesia? Exploring the Reasons Behind the Decision

Huawei has been a popular brand in Indonesia for many years, and its products have been widely used and appreciated by Indonesian consumers. However, in recent years, the company has gradually withdrawn from the Indonesian market, and many people ar

consumer.huawei.com

Intelligent propaganda is when one can't even suspect that what they're receiving by way of information is not propaganda. But who's going to tell this to the Gaokao fail Xu Yanjun type people populating the MSS.

This is among the many reasons , I believe , China is all set to lose the war for Taiwan . Stupid people don't win you wars . They lose you a war that could easily have been won.

 

[SexyChineseLady]

So Indonesians are reviewing the latest Huawei phones. It's easy for the casual bystander to think that Huawei might have some great following in Indonesia , consequently great sales. However what is the reality ? Let's see what Huawei itself has to say about this ? Linking an article from the Huawei website out here -

Why Did Huawei Stop Selling in Indonesia? Exploring the Reasons Behind the Decision

Huawei has been a popular brand in Indonesia for many years, and its products have been widely used and appreciated by Indonesian consumers. However, in recent years, the company has gradually withdrawn from the Indonesian market, and many people ar

consumer.huawei.com

Intelligent propaganda is when one can't even suspect that what they're receiving by way of information is not propaganda. But who's going to tell this to the Gaokao fail Xu Yanjun type people populating the MSS.

This is among the many reasons , I believe , China is all set to lose the war for Taiwan . Stupid people don't win you wars . They lose you a war that could easily have been won.

Huawei phones because of US sneak attack ban on Android and chipsets had been out of the market for most of the rest world. But they still follow news on Huawei phones which are on HarmonyOS

The camera and new features will hopefully entice them to give up a Western OS and take a leap into an all Asian eco-system with HarmonyOS!