BrahMos Cruise Missile

[Armand2REP]

Wrong information.

For the Navy,
The Rajput class destroyers were the first ships to carry Brahmos, 3 in total with a presumed 48 missiles on each.

Wrong information.

The INS Rajput had it installed for trials as it is a test ship, the same reason it fired Prithvi. The class is 30 years old and being replaced by the Kolkata class being inducted in 2015. There has been no fitting or test shots fired from the other Rajputs. No ship in the IN can fit 48 Brahmos missiles.

The Talwar class followed. 3 in total with a presumed 24 missiles in each.

8 missiles on each.

That's a total of 216 missiles(estimated operational) for the Navy.

That's a total of 24 missiles for the IN.

Upcoming fleet:
Kolkata class(Project 15A) will start coming in from 2012 and 2 more in consecutive years. So, they will each need 48 missiles, if not more. 7 ships are to be built.

Won't be ready until 2015. They each get 8 Brahmos... not 48.

Shivalik class(Project 17). 12 of them will carry Brahmos. Upgrade has not begun yet with the existing ships.

Not part of this discussion.

Project 17A and Project 15B will carry Brahmos II, so it's moot to the discussion.

What it WILL carry is moot to the discussion because we are talking about what has already been delivered. Not the backlog of the order book.

For the Army,
The first regiment of the Army has 67 Block I missiles with 67 more in reserve. Meaning these are not carried to the battlefield and will be transported as and when needed. That's a total of 134 already active missiles.

The regiment only has 48-60 missiles. They don't hold reserve missiles as it is a waste of money having them rot in storage. They only have an 8 year canister life.

The second regiment could already have 67 Block II missiles operational since the regiment has been raised. So, expect the next batch of 67 to follow within 2 years end along with the orders for 3rd regiment. All this while building missiles for Talwar classs and Kolkata class ships at the same time.

It takes years for them to raise a regiment which shows just how slow production is.

So, do the math.

Like your math of 48 missiles per boat?

As for Air force version, it has not even been flight tested, so serial production is moot as of now.

Already said it...

 

[p2prada]

The INS Rajput had it installed for trials as it is a test ship, the same reason it fired Prithvi. The class is 30 years old and being replaced by the Kolkata class being inducted in 2015. There has been no fitting or test shots fired from the other Rajputs. No ship in the IN can fit 48 Brahmos missiles.

Guess I have to say "No" to each point.

8 missiles on each.

Only the first Rajput has inclined launchers and the tests were carried out using 4 launchers with 1 missile each. But that was 2005. Now they have 2 launchers with 4 missiles in each.

Anyway I was a little off with the Rajput class. It isn't 3 but 4 ships which have the Brahmos VLS system. Apart from the Talwar class.

That's a total of 24 missiles for the IN.

On each Frigate. Yes. Did you know the AB destroyers carry 4 reloads of AShMs. Ever heard of cranes.

The regiment only has 48-60 missiles. They don't hold reserve missiles as it is a waste of money having them rot in storage. They only have an 8 year canister life.

Yes and Sarkozy is Japanese. Don't talk of stuff which is so easily available in open source. Google 134 Brahmos and Indian Army.

They hold reserve missiles simply because it is protocol. It's like soldiers carrying extra ammo apart from the cartridge in the rifle.

Perhaps it is impossible for you believe because the ships and the missile aren't French. BTW, it is 10 years for Brahmos, same as the Exocet.

It takes years for them to raise a regiment which shows just how slow production is.

3 years for the first one and 1 year six months for the second. Not bad even by American standards.
Funnily enough googling "ahead of schedule" with "Brahmos" and "Indian army" gives the 2nd regiment induction.

The orders for the 2nd regiment was given only in 2010. After the first regiment with 134 missiles was fully inducted.

Like your math of 48 missiles per boat?

Haha. Ever heard of magazine.

On a more general note, AFAIK, Brahmos production was supposed to be in three phases. First phase is already completed. Second phase construction has already begun while land acquisition for third phase has begun.

 

[p2prada]

News from 2007

India steps up production of Prithvi and BrahMos - Times Of India

Sources said facilities were now in place to produce around 20 Prithvi missiles every year, while the annual production rate of BrahMos missiles is geared towards touching 50 in the near future.

@plugwater

Are you certain about the delay with Kolkata class? The last I heard there was only cost escalation, but no major delays. IMO, the 2015 figure has not been official. Is there an actual paper with the news or some reputed blogger?

 

[p2prada]

One more article from 2005,

MissileThreat :: Russian-Indian BrahMos Cruise Missile Goes into Production

The initial batch of BrahMos missiles will number approximately 70.

 

[nitesh]

NTI: Global Security Newswire - India Prepares for Trial of Advanced Agni 2 Missile

Meanwhile, the Indian military is now fielding a new regiment of short-range BrahMos cruise missiles that can travel at supersonic speeds to precisely hit targets at a maximum distance of approximately 187 miles, the Times of India reported on Thursday (see GSN, Aug. 15). The missile has been modified in some cases to accommodate a nuclear warhead, according to previous reports (Vinod Nayanar, Times of India, Nov. 10).

 

[nitesh]

Saya, the answer lies in the production speed, the initial speed of production was 5-10 per year, it has now reached to 100 per year. Now we will see speedier induction

 

[Galaxy]

Ownership Status of BrahMos Aerospace LTD.

Brahmos Aerospace Thiruvananthapuram Limited (BATL) is a subsidiary Company of BrahMos Aerospace Private Limited (BAPL), New Delhi, which is a Joint Venture between India and Russia formed through Inter-Governmental Agreement with a majority shareholding of 50.5% by Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), Government of India. This Company has exclusive task of design, development, production and sale of BrahMosSupersonic Cruise Missiles for our Armed Forces. BATL is managed by an Independent Board with members from BAPL, DRDO, ISRO, State Government and also with independent expert member. BATL is presently manufacturing systems, components for DRDO, ISRO, BrahMos, HAL, BARC related with missiles including BrahMos systems, PSLV, GSLV, satellites and robotic arms. BA TL is manufacturing these components and systems as per orders received from the above Organizations. This information was given by Defence Minister Shri AK Antony in written reply to Dr TN Seema in Rajya Sabha today. Press Information Bureau English Releases

 

[Galaxy]

Modification of Brahmos Missile

28-November, 2011

BrahMos Supersonic Cruise Missile has been developed initially as Anti-ship version for launch from ship to ship for the Indian Navy and inducted in Service. Later, land to land version has been developed for the Indian Army and Indian Air Force. This version has been inducted in the Army and is under production for Army and Air Force. Test also has been carried out from ship to land target. Coastal battery from Mobile Complex on land to ship is also available for the Indian Navy. Air-version of the missile is being developed for SU-30 Mk-I for Indian Air Force.


Some parts of the missile components, airframes and air borne launcher are currently being produced in Thiruvananthapuram complex of BrahMos Aerospace. Multiple industries of India are partners to provide components for themissile and ground systems.


This information was given by Defence Minister Shri AK Antony.

 

[JAISWAL]

Brahmos achieves Mach 6.5 speed during test

Brahmos achieves Mach 6.5 speed during test - India News - IBNLive

Chennai: The latest version of Indo-Russian Brahmos cruise missile has achieved a speed of Mach 6.5 during experiments at Hyderabad and the target is to achieve Mach 7, a top DRDO official said in Chennai on Monday.
"Experiments are being done in Hyderabad. We have completed tests up to Mach 6.5," BrahMos Aerospace Private Limited Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director A Sivathanu Pillai said in Chennai.
The target is to achieve Mach 7, he said.

BrahMos is a cruise missile that can be launched from submarines, ships, aircraft or land.
Inaugurating an International Research Centre developed by Sathyabama University and Indira Gandhi Centre for Atomic Research in Chennai, Pillai said nanotechnology is the buzzword in the future and several countries were investing into it.
"Over 70 billion US dollars are being spent in this field. Once, this technology is commercialised, it will generate over $ 3 trillion per year," the DRDO scientist said.
Nanotechnology will be a boon for the health sector especially to tackle diseases like Alzheimer's.
The government has formed a nanotechnology mission and a centre in Bangalore is being upgraded for this, Pillai said.

 

[JAISWAL]

Brahmos achieves Mach 6.5 speed during test | Brahmos | | The New Indian Express
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HENNAI: The latest version of
Indo-Russian Brahmos cruise
missile has achieved a speed of
Mach 6.5 during experiments at
Hyderabad and the target is to
achieve Mach 7, a top DRDO
official said in Chennai on
Monday.
"Experiments are being done in
Hyderabad. We have completed
tests up to Mach 6.5," BrahMos
Aerospace Private Limited Chief
Executive Officer and Managing
Director A Sivathanu Pillai said in
Chennai.
The target is to achieve Mach 7,
he said.
BrahMos is a cruise missile that
can be launched from
submarines, ships, aircraft or
land.
Inaugurating an International
Research Centre developed by
Sathyabama University and Indira
Gandhi Centre for Atomic
Research in Chennai, Pillai said
nanotechnology is the buzzword
in the future and several
countries were investing into it.
"Over 70 billion US dollars are
being spent in this field. Once,
this technology is
commercialised, it will generate
over $ 3 trillion per year,

 

[Neil]

Brahmos achieves Mach 6.5 speed during lab test

Chennai, Nov 28 (PTI) The latest version of Indo-Russian Brahmos cruise missile has achieved a speed of Mach 6.5 during experiments at Hyderabad and the target is to achieve Mach 7, a top DRDO official said here today. "Experiments are being done in Hyderabad. We have completed tests up to Mach 6.5," BrahMos Aerospace Private Limited Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director A Sivathanu Pillai told reporters here. The target is to achieve Mach 7, he said. Mach is commonly used to represent the speed of an object when it is traveling close to or above the speed of sound. BrahMos is a cruise missile that can be launched from submarines, ships, aircraft or land. Inaugurating an International Research Centre developed by Sathyabama University and Indira Gandhi Centre for Atomic Research here, Pillai said nanotechnology is the buzzword in the future and several countries were investing into it. "Over 70 billion US dollars are being spent in this field. Once, this technology is commercialised, it will generate over USD 3 trillion per year," the DRDO scientist said. Nanotechnology will be a boon for the health sector especially to tackle diseases like Alzheimer's. The government has formed a nanotechnology mission and a centre in Bangalore is being upgraded for this, Pillai said.

 

[JAISWAL]

already posted in brahmos thread.

 

[utubekhiladi]

Breaking: Brahmos achieves speed of Mach 6.5 during lab test

Chennai, Nov 28 (PTI) The latest version of Indo-Russian Brahmos cruise missile has achieved a speed of Mach 6.5 during experiments at Hyderabad and the target is to achieve Mach 7, a top DRDO official said here today. "Experiments are being done in Hyderabad. We have completed tests up to Mach 6.5," BrahMos Aerospace Private Limited Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director A Sivathanu Pillai told reporters here. The target is to achieve Mach 7, he said. Mach is commonly used to represent the speed of an object when it is traveling close to or above the speed of sound. BrahMos is a cruise missile that can be launched from submarines, ships, aircraft or land. Inaugurating an International Research Centre developed by Sathyabama University and Indira Gandhi Centre for Atomic Research here, Pillai said nanotechnology is the buzzword in the future and several countries were investing into it. "Over 70 billion US dollars are being spent in this field. Once, this technology is commercialised, it will generate over USD 3 trillion per year," the DRDO scientist said. Nanotechnology will be a boon for the health sector especially to tackle diseases like Alzheimer's. The government has formed a nanotechnology mission and a centre in Bangalore is being upgraded for this, Pillai said.

Brahmos achieves Mach 6.5 speed during lab test, IBN Live News

 

[SHASH2K2]

a really good news. a superlike for you .

 

[utubekhiladi]

nothing can stop brahmos from hitting its prey using devastating force. Absolutely nothing

(hint: CL-20)

 

[utubekhiladi]

so we will have 3 hypersonic missiles in our backpack right? (hypersonic = speed > Mach 5.0)

1) AGNI - 5
2) Shaurya
3) Brahmos

please correct me if i am wrong..

 

[Param]

so we will have 3 hypersonic missiles in our backpack right? (hypersonic = speed > Mach 5.0)

1) AGNI - 5
2) Shaurya
3) Brahmos

please correct me if i am wrong..

Agni 5 is a regular ballistic missile. I believe even Agni 3 with its full range crosses mach 5.

 

[utubekhiladi]

Agni 5 is a regular ballistic missile. I believe even Agni 3 with its full range crosses mach 5.

do u know what will be range and speed of Agni 5 and agni prime?

 

[bhramos]

Modification of Brahmos Missile

 

[Galaxy]

All news on this page are already there on previous page too.