AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (HAL)

[MonaLazy]

IF WE Collab with outsiders, then the advantage will only be gleaned if the knowledge is absorbed and leveraged for further Local R&D from our side, otherwise if it is not exploited further, then it is a CON.

That's a given. However, we cannot blame the Swedes/Germans for squandering the advantage (forgotten Bofors blueprints or no follow-on to Shishumar-class local production) earlier. Today the onus is on us to first strike the best possible deal with any one of the world's leading engine majors (GE/Safran/RR) for our fighter propulsion requirements, then to create a whole family of jet engines for various applications and be self-sufficient in this domain.

 

[Abheer Parashar]

If it crosses 3 K before AMCA first flight, chai Samosa on me
Not even kidding

Ye baat maine apni diary mein note kar li hai, bhoolega nahi apan. (I have noted this in my diary, will not forget it).

 

[Blademaster]

If it crosses 3 K before AMCA first flight, chai Samosa on me
Not even kidding

This needs to be pinned to the top of the thread on every page so we can hold his feet to the fire should it cross 3 K!

 

[MonaLazy]

ToT for engine technology : It's a pity.

The Tejas story was similar until it turned the corner. There's hope! We only have to have mega giga tonnes of patience. That's all!

 

[IndianHawk]

The Tejas story was similar until it turned the corner. There's hope! We only have to have mega giga tonnes of patience. That's all!

The key to survive Indian defence forums is learn to take small wins as and when they come.
Those who wish for all things to happen at once are bound to be disappointed in the end. Many turn cynical.

 

[Flying Dagger]

The Tejas story was similar until it turned the corner. There's hope! We only have to have mega giga tonnes of patience. That's all!

We are way past patience we are into generations now. Bachhe bhi bade ho rhe hain ab

 

[Abheer Parashar]

Will study SPV model for AMCA Program: Boeing – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

Don't let these Americ*nts get this contract, this will be a grave mistake. Let HAL do the manufacturing if no Indian private player is willing to do this job rather than these cunning military industrial complex guys, even if it takes a century.

 

[silverghost]

Will study SPV model for AMCA Program: Boeing – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

Don't let these Americ*nts get this contract, this will be a grave mistake. Let HAL do the manufacturing if no Indian private player is willing to do this job rather than these cunning military industrial complex guys, even if it takes a century.

Boeing can be a very good partner. Right now they are almost out of the USAF scene as far as fighter jets are concerned. We can learn a lot from them.

 

[binayak95]

Boeing can be a very good partner. Right now they are almost out of the USAF scene as far as fighter jets are concerned. We can learn a lot from them.

Exactly. And Boeing was the first consultant on the LCA project - they played a key role in finalizing the delta wing shape as well as the cranked root.

 

[flanker99]

Will study SPV model for AMCA Program: Boeing – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

Don't let these Americ*nts get this contract, this will be a grave mistake. Let HAL do the manufacturing if no Indian private player is willing to do this job rather than these cunning military industrial complex guys, even if it takes a century.

My feeling is tasl will get the contract for spv they poached prashant bhadoria sir from hal recently and guess which project he worked last at HAL ....AMCA!

 

[Sachinananda]

My feeling is tasl will get the contract for spv they poached prashant bhadoria sir from hal recently and guess which project he worked last at HAL ....AMCA!

Anyway
Let them do things faster bcoz I feel until spv has not formalized until then ccs approval won't come
It's becoming hell of a situation everyday delay is like knife stabbing us wrt sq strength and capability gap

 

[Blademaster]

Boeing can be a very good partner. Right now they are almost out of the USAF scene as far as fighter jets are concerned. We can learn a lot from them.

They will never give up the IP rights so unless they expressly agree that all IP and manufacturing rights stay with India and GoI, this is a non starter.

 

[Abheer Parashar]

Boeing can be a very good partner. Right now they are almost out of the USAF scene as far as fighter jets are concerned. We can learn a lot from them.

Sir, I agree they are out of the USAF scene, but they are still part of the "Deep State System" and will never compromise with their manufacturing technology which they have developed over a span of 50-60 years.

 

[silverghost]

They will never give up the IP rights so unless they expressly agree that all IP and manufacturing rights stay with India and GoI, this is a non starter.

Let's examine their proposal first before jumping to conclusions.

 

[NutCracker]

They will never give up the IP rights so unless they expressly agree that all IP and manufacturing rights stay with India and GoI, this is a non starter.

Its boeing.. airframe/design rights,subsystems, automation tech are much plausible to be shared compare to Engine hot core tech.

 

[tomthounaojam]

If it crosses 3 K before AMCA first flight, chai Samosa on me
Not even kidding

I will make the offer more attractive, cold beers and chicken tandoori on me.

 

[Abheer Parashar]

I will make the offer more attractive, cold beers and chicken tandoori on me.

Chicken Tandoori, yes. Cold beers, no for me. I am underage.

 

[AnantS]

Chicken Tandoori, yes. Cold beers, no for me. I am underage.

dont worry you will be in 30s when this offer by @tomthounaojam fructifies

 

[Abheer Parashar]

dont worry you will be in 30s when this offer by @tomthounaojam fructifies

Are bhai bhai bhai.....

 

[MirageBlue]

Exactly. And Boeing was the first consultant on the LCA project - they played a key role in finalizing the delta wing shape as well as the cranked root.

Boeing was not a consultant on the LCA project.

Dassault, BAe, CALSPAN were.