500,1000 Rs Note no longer legal tender!!

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already manufacturing PMI is in negative territory in October. Will continue for few more quarters.

At the end, govt would get some tax and regular people lose money due to slowdown. So, total benefits would be negative.
Na, govt would get good amount in cash, black money would come in the circulation, liquidity will give opportunity for lower rates, good for people. And people will start using digital money more and more. At least 15-20% transactions should be done via digital mode and that would help the economy. Target must be higher. And don't forget the Benami properties are the next. If Modi attacks, It would be very much awesome.

Last but not the least, government would gain the trust of people and crooks will be scared, they're actually shitting in their pants now, people do understand that it's not all talks, govt can press reset button anytime so don't underestimate authorities.
 

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Na, govt would get good amount in cash, black money would come in the circulation, liquidity will give opportunity for lower rates, good for people. And people will start using digital money more and more. At least 15-20% transactions should be done via digital mode and that would help the economy. Target must be higher. And don't forget the Benami properties are the next. If Modi attacks, It would be very much awesome.

Last but not the least, government would gain the trust of people and crooks will be scared, they're actually shitting in their pants now, people do understand that it's not all talks, govt can press reset button anytime so don't underestimate authorities.
What ever you say, he will always find issues with it.

If Modiji doesn't do any thing, he will say that Modiji is blatantly ignoring the problems.

When Modiji does some thing about the issue, he will say same thing with different words, like how Modiji screwing up with the stupid move and what not.

I am still waiting for his super cool RW ultra hindu idealistic political party.

Imagine the future,
We Hindus can sit at home and the money will come to our accounts at the day end.

The heavenly happy days.
 

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Talk in "chaiwalla" circles is that a big bang loan write-off coming up for farmers in first half 2017

Interesting times :)
 

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gurumurthy (Modis cheif economic guru) has already stated that its not the numbers that matter, but the quality of growth. according to him after demonetization there is going to be a good quality of growth. I guess Modi is going take a lead in developing s formula to quantify the growth Quality. No economist in the world has so far been able to measure the growth quality (they only measure growth quantity). I think this whole exercise to to show the public that western method of economic growth is complete crap and only vedic economic policies can save India going forward.
1) stop using Vedic as a derogatory word.

2) Yes, these policies are stupid!
 

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Na, govt would get good amount in cash, black money would come in the circulation, liquidity will give opportunity for lower rates, good for people. And people will start using digital money more and more. At least 15-20% transactions should be done via digital mode and that would help the economy. Target must be higher. And don't forget the Benami properties are the next. If Modi attacks, It would be very much awesome.

Last but not the least, government would gain the trust of people and crooks will be scared, they're actually shitting in their pants now, people do understand that it's not all talks, govt can press reset button anytime so don't underestimate authorities.
That hope dashed. Economic output already down. Whole black economy (which is also very productive) got hit. Economically I can guarantee there is no benefit out of this exercise. Waste of effort for nothing.
 

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What ever you say, he will always find issues with it.

If Modiji doesn't do any thing, he will say that Modiji is blatantly ignoring the problems.

When Modiji does some thing about the issue, he will say same thing with different words, like how Modiji screwing up with the stupid move and what not.

I am still waiting for his super cool RW ultra hindu idealistic political party.

Imagine the future,
We Hindus can sit at home and the money will come to our accounts at the day end.

The heavenly happy days.
When there are reasons to clap, there would be claps. Blind faith suits you but not to logical people who can see through stupidity.

When Modi did surgical strike (the real one), we all were with him and fully supported him. But sorry, I personally don't give kudos for non-starters or failed policies. Intention of good is not enough.
 

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Yeah and who in govt will monitor it? IT inspectors. And IT inspectors are Dudh k dhule!!
Inspectors in IT are under pressure because IT has asked ED- FIU and Revenue Intelligence to help them. It will be now little dangerous for an IT inspector to hide the facts.
 

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When there are reasons to clap, there would be claps. Blind faith suits you but not to logical people who can see through stupidity.

When Modi did surgical strike (the real one), we all were with him and fully supported him. But sorry, I personally don't give kudos for non-starters or failed policies. Intention of good is not enough.
So it is either clap or dissing.
Spoken like true Indian.

We are not watching a movie so that we can clap when hero delivers and abuse him when he fails to do something heroic.

PM is working. And so we are also working.
If he takes some decision, we have to accept it. Only time will tell what went wrong.

General population accepted the move. So lets move on.
 
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So it is either clap or dissing.
Spoken like true Indian.

We are not watching a movie so that we can clap when hero delivers and abuse him when he fails to do something heroic.

PM is working. And so we are also working.
If he takes some decision, we have to accept it. Only time will tell what went wrong.

General population accepted the move. So lets move on.

I agree. There is some new innovative step he has taken. Let's wait. If it fails we should not blame. Because we tried unlike others who did nothing. There are problems faced by people and no one is enjoying it but it is being done for future generation only.

We say constitution is old, well this is the reason that no one wants to take responsibility to change it and take blames if something is wrong.

This PM is very bold.
 

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I agree. There is some new innovative step he has taken. Let's wait. If it fails we should not blame. Because we tried unlike others who did nothing. There are problems faced by people and no one is enjoying it but it is being done for future generation only.

We say constitution is old, well this is the reason that no one wants to take responsibility to change it and take blames if something is wrong.

This PM is very bold.
The positive thing is PM can directly communicate with general public.
If Modiji didn't do the homework, the policy would have been crashed before it reached the bottom of chain.

No one is working except PM.
 

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So it is either clap or dissing.
Spoken like true Indian.

We are not watching a movie so that we can clap when hero delivers and abuse him when he fails to do something heroic.

PM is working. And so we are also working.
If he takes some decision, we have to accept it. Only time will tell what went wrong.

General population accepted the move. So lets move on.
Well, you are free to diss when you know a move is pathetically stupid.

But you won't get it right now. So it is fine. Critique of decisions is important for right feedback.
 

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I agree. There is some new innovative step he has taken. Let's wait. If it fails we should not blame. Because we tried unlike others who did nothing. There are problems faced by people and no one is enjoying it but it is being done for future generation only.

We say constitution is old, well this is the reason that no one wants to take responsibility to change it and take blames if something is wrong.

This PM is very bold.
Road to hell is paved with good intentions. If his surgical strike move had gone wrong, we would have stood by it.

Some decisions have higher chances of getting successful and that is where you stand behind. While other decisions are bound to fail even before you start and you can gauge it.

Demonetization was a high risk tail event with unknown gains and definitive failures. So, it is not right to support it.
 

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Road to hell is paved with good intentions. If his surgical strike move had gone wrong, we would have stood by it.

Some decisions have higher chances of getting successful and that is where you stand behind. While other decisions are bound to fail even before you start and you can gauge it.

Demonetization was a high risk tail event with unknown gains and definitive failures. So, it is not right to support it.
There are so many posts here talking about gain .. how much it has helped let's wait and let the audit happen.

I was more concerned about digital economy. But some one replied to my tweet that as the usage increases so will be the service charge per transaction will reduce. And that guy happens to be ex Raw chief Mr. Sood.

But how they are going to implement digital economy is doubtful. Though it is user friendly but there are two concerns
1) in Rural areas it feasibility of being implemented
2) time of total implementation.
 

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Just saw that Venezuela has done the same ie. Demonetization.
I had pointed this sometime back, Venezuela is a basket case economy with hyper inflation. Venezuela's inflation is going be around 1,600 % next year. now compare that to India good luck. also north korea might do it as they also have similar problems. . now you see the picture, how modi nomics work.
 
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I had pointed this sometime back, Venezuela is a basket case economy but hyper inflation. now compare that to India good luck.
why are you bringing inflation and all those economic rules here?

How is demonetisation will even affect GDP? Except that some 30 Billion USD recovered by govt.
 

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why are you bringing inflation and all those economic rules here?

How is demonetisation will even affect GDP? Except that some 30 Billion USD recovered by govt.
are you really that innocent ? or simply pretending to be, who is going to pay the factory workers. and if factory workers do not get paid, would he/she work for free ? I have a friend in delhi who is involved in lighting business. he said his customer volume has dropped 75% since demonetization. they could not hold on to their workers as they could not pay them the salary. can you install PayTM machine in their factory soon ? this is the story going around everywhere. freight business has taken a big hit in India as truckers do not know how to pay for fuel. that would definitely cause GDP to shrink.

as per ndtv reports GOI has recovered 2600 crores so far as unaccounted money, that translates to around 650 million, where did you get your 30 billion figures from ?
 
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