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  1. punjab47

    Turkey shot down Russian Su 24

    @Razor I've read it's erdogan & more anatolians demographically beating out rumalians in past century. I.e r people beating out k due to cheap energy & wealth from hydrocarbons. --- Protestants were strong for 3 centuries after destroying their culture. 15-1800s decline since then.. Muslims...
  2. punjab47

    Turkey shot down Russian Su 24

    Few big isis attacks in Russia China India. Or in west if security too tight, delay Turkish fifth gen plane & equipment purchases from Germany or elsewhere. There's more to this, if nothing else this commits Russian black Sea fleet to Syria overstretched & Crimea vulnerable. Yes nukes are...
  3. punjab47

    Turkey shot down Russian Su 24

    Erdogan can't be that stupid. Positive development for us is that 150 year Anglo-Turk alliance shows cracks however, remember that real angle is German Turk to contain Russia and that's not going anywhere. I don't think for second he did this on his own. Rhetoric not withstanding, it's...
  4. punjab47

    Turkey shot down Russian Su 24

    Russia will probably kill some high-ranking turks, air support some kurds & news cycle will forget about it in 2 weeks.
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