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I was asking about ishapore rifle..... SSS claimed that their accuracy of sniper rifles are sub moa, so that's good

Accuracy is measured in MOA...... Please ask these people to evaluate its accuracy in MOA

Atleast they don't look like a toy anymore.... Unlike with previous orange paint

And 5.56 nato was never designed for anything beyond 500m.......

They are asking entire lot to be manufactured in India. So the likes of MkU, punj Lloyd will definitely be there. More companies will join the race with foreign collaboration

I don't think army will induct an ofb rifle chambered in 7.62 nato. We're getting everything from foreign oems.

In In a country where MOD is run by civilians and who thinks about themselves more than the military is bound to have these things happening

Naah Ak103 is still better than our ghatak & trichy rifles. And ak109 still needs time to get more matured. But the kind of deal we got from sig & Caracal..... it would be a crime if we do not induct these fabulous rifles

No buddy its not like that. It depends more on the rifle and what it's designed for. Effective range is the range till where a round can maintain its claimed accuracy. Otherwise an 7.62 round can easily travel to a 1000m but would not carry sufficient energy and velocity to hit its target with...

Are you sure......? What about the objections and the source of information

$553 million is not going to be the final price. It's just the alloted money to purchase the weapon. Wait for the deal to be signed. Also quote was of $1150 per piece

Sigs are definitely coming, not sure about Caracal. But there's still a chance that it might make it through

I totally agree with you, insas and ofb had plenty of time... 2.5 decades to be precise.

Insas is accurate but is a flimsy gun with very old and outdated furniture. The thing is also of poor quality control. And our lacklustre attitude of govt babus and employees. When it was initially introduced it had many flaws and army was assured of these flaws will get rectified and the rifle...

5.56 was developed for different purpose and during different time. It was developed keeping in mind the conflict between two professional armies and conventional wars. It fulfil the purpose it was developed for. It was not meant for skinny mujahedeens on do or die missions. Indian army directly...

Yes ball ammo with and without steel inserts. India uses both 5.56 nato ie m855/ss109 which has a mild steel penetrator and older m193 without steel inserts. 7.62×39mm rounds also have steel inserts. Special AP or black tip rounds are imported and provided to SFs. Both 5.56 and 7.62×39 have...

7.62 nato is coming back not due to technological advancement but due to change in battlefield requirements and type of enemy

Actually our troops hate insas more than they hate 5.56 nato. An Ak47 is smaller in length, almost 1kg lighter, has side or bottom foldable buttstock, has full auto option and the much higher stopping power. Don't forget the SFs in J&K still use M4a1 and tar21 chambered in 5.56 nato. So just...

Also it consumes lot of ammo. If you'll compare with numbers of rounds hitting the target wrt conventional lmgs you'll always find conventional ones much more accurate

Subsonic ammunition Indian made 5.56 are similar to the nato version with muzzle velocity of around 900m/s. Yes the wound channel is not as big and lethal as the 7.62×39. But it's damn good in penetrating body armours much better than the AK's just because of its much higher velocity. You will...