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Lol Pak sent Blunders to escort Chini PM aircraft. Chaaplusi ki koi hud nahi

Off course. International relations is all about hypocrisy.

No I am talking about the countries who are potential Chinese junk buyers.

Yeah, might as well they buy spitfires. Those countries probably need fighters either to satisfy their egos or commit mass murders of their own people. Those countries don't even need an AF as they don't have enemies or threat perception at all. I mean what is the biggest threat to Zimbabwe...

Only the americans have over the years made sure it has battle proven weapons as they keep creating wars. This also helps them in creating new doctrines, procedures and also improve weapons after learning from the wars. The idea may be to have everything perfect when WWIII starts.

I would fear the unknown than the known. Anything in the air with missiles on it is going to be dangerous and has to be taken into account. JHA completely agree with you and i have said as much earlier. The JF-17 may be inferior (still to be proven) but it still is going to fly, may be has...

Care to post those points here???

Let our MCA prgram start first. Get your facts right and stop behaving in a childish manner and make a fool out of yourself.

They lied to the indonesians? 500 already produced 350 with pakistan and 150 with china? Lets write to the indonesians what the truth is.

Even a small bird is dangerous and taken care of by pilots so that it doesn't bring down a multi million dollar plane, A bird with a trained pilot and weapons loaded will be taken lightly only to Indias own peril. IAF being a professional unit would be taking any thunder or blunder seriously so...

LF, that is a policy call and not one based on what Turkey buys from another country. Buying of JF-17 will not be the reason why the US bars the F-35 to turkey. If at all it happens, it will be because of policies of Turkey that go against western interests.

LF,why would Turkey be kicked out of the F-35 program if they chose to buy the JF-17? I dont see the link. Two different class of people. Turkey would be happy to use them against the Kurds or some low level AF rather than use the F-35 as an overkill. I would imagine that the NATO would be happy...

Just a reminder, we dont entertain flaming and trolling. I just sense we may start here. so guys be careful.

The path Turkey is on, it may well have to scout for cheap Chinese wares instead of the state of the art stuff its used to right now.

Z, Will he win again?

Z, What is Pentagon and CIA doing? Why arent they advising Obama about the perils of what he is pursuing? Or has Obama gone too big for his shoes and also perhaps trying to justify is Nobel with some outright ridiculous policies to buy peace.

Yes Z you are right about it. Pakistan is purely playing a numbers game. Even a spitfire in the air with BVRs would be a threat and that is the logic behind the numbers Pakistan is acquiring.