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And you know the best part- DRDO has to actually agree to any gsqr revision army makes in its projects. So the gsqr cluld not have been revised without DRDO concent. So why didn't DRDO take this matter up or outright refuse the changes to gsqr?

Yeah but what we really need to know is if the bench marks for acquiring Arjun was the same as that of t90 when t90 was first acquired. If they were not, then army has to answer for why it don't set the bench marks on even footing. If yes and if the gsqr quoted in cag report is at different...

This is a much more valid rebuttal. But still does not explain why the standards for Arjun were earmarked higher than that for T90s? Was it rigged or was it because they were given at later dates. If the latter is the case, give us links for that. And pls do post all the valid negatives in the...

But that does not explain gsqr was different for T90s and Arjun? It was not a fair comparison then now is it?

What action has the modi govt initiated so far ? People responsible for killing Arjun unfairly (if that indeed is the case) should be tried for treason and should be put to death. And that said, again this does not mean this RFI is shit. Punishing members for improper treatment of Arjun will...

Edit: OK now I understand. Yeah that might also be possible- bribe DRDO to delay the projects so that IA buys from foreign vendors. But seriously I think pathetic work culture if DRDO is probably the most important the reason for delays. Every person I have known in internet who has seen it work...

:pound: Reference to authority.lol. Do you even know what you speak? Reference to authority is a fallacy to invoke the authority of someone "unrelated" to the field as a source of information. For example, I am a doctor and an expert (authority) in medicine , more so than others. But if I...

Yeah like they share the details of their strategic programs under work with anyone. Anyway, unless you guys are going to give links to DRDO having problems with this RFI, your arguments have no weight

Will you stop this? I never said anything about you did I? I was talking about p2p and decklander. Why do you take it as my attack on you? BTW, decklander was an arjun supporter in case you forgot. He was the one who first actually showed Arjun was indeed a superior tank to T90

You know this RFI was not acted upon in usa how? o_O

P2p, decklander, lemotree, Damian, godless kaffir etc Reg the first para, that's not what I meant. What I meant is if you are going to talk about official stance , you have to provide logic and evidence. So far the only point you guys have made is that this RFI is vague which has already been...

This is actually funny. I dint personally attack anyone. I just rephrased what their claims on AIT actually is. Too bad it sounded that bad and that it pushed them into victimhood and on the defensive . Says a lot on how pathetic beliefs on AIT are and how pathetic it is to claim foregin...

This is by far the stupidest reply I have read . get help. I was not a victim anywhere never claimed to be one. You were stupid in non understanding I was claiming army to be the defence less guys here and you mistook that I was talking about me. Now accept your mistake instead of replying like...

That's what I said too. There has been no official statement against this RFI from anyone actually involved in it. Only the fanboys have been making noises and they have so far not given a single evidence/logic for their noice, even after 20 pages of useless discussion. But then again fanboys...

Meaning you are saying this RFI is bad or right? Are saying this DRDO not responding means that dgmf is wrong? Pls be clearer in your position

Can you stop your stupid replies to me? You reply like the half clowns here who talk without understanding. I was not talking about myself being a victim, but rather the armed forces. What I said is true- army is forbidden to talk to public regarding their choices including their weaponry and so...

Thats because the opposite side is forbidden from speaking to the public forums. Basically, these people are fighting an armless opponent. That said, you dint answer why Arjun was rejected when it was superior to T90 in 1998. It was the CAG report after all?

again, what does all of this have to RFI being shit? This is for a tank to be inducted in the time line 2030 yes? So what is wrong in asking for RFI , asking about what kind of futuristic tech can you provide? And as for MNCs not going to respond, lets see.

All this 20 pages of discussion has only been about arjun and corruption in Army. None have provided why this RFI is a joke. The only point your people made was that it was vague and even that was countered by the people you mentioned on why it is vague. So yes, you can talk for twenty pages of...

This is the kind of answer I needed, not moronic rants that Army is corrupt. So yes, I agree you have a point. @Bhadra and @karn have to answer this question and for now I will agree with you. But now explain why this RFI is BS. None of the posts in this thread has given even a remote reason on...