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  1. Armand2REP

    China's first indigenous carrier CV17

    Yes but it isn't much different than a Rafale that can't close its wings. CdG has no problem operating 30+ Rafale from the carrier including two massive E-2C Hawkeyes. The Shandong has been engineered for more hanger and deck space as opposed to the Liaoning, it shouldn't be much of a...
  2. Armand2REP

    China's first indigenous carrier CV17

    The industrial pressure washer is a good hint. That was based on the assumption Chinese would not be stupid enough to strip paint in the ocean.
  3. Armand2REP

    China's first indigenous carrier CV17

    As I said, you would do that in dry dock. Only an idiot would strip paint while the boat is in water.
  4. Armand2REP

    China's first indigenous carrier CV17

    This is how pressure washers are used when cleaning a ship.
  5. Armand2REP

    China's first indigenous carrier CV17

    You would do that in dry dock. It looks like an inspection team. Maybe it sprung a leak from a bad weld.
  6. Armand2REP

    China's first indigenous carrier CV17

    It comes down to need. Germans and Japanese need healthcare, pensions and social services. They don't need to challenge the American world order as it is not such a bad place for them to be. Chinese don't need these things, their nation was forged from suffering and their national shame...
  7. Armand2REP

    China's first indigenous carrier CV17

    So you will build the world's largest navy just to send it into mothballs?
  8. Armand2REP

    China's first indigenous carrier CV17

    Are you suggesting the PLAN doesn't have the budget to do that? Have you seen the amount of expenditure on warship construction? The PLA is vastly reducing its numbers so it can build up its naval capability. Everything you are listing as impediments are the exact opposite of what China is doing.
  9. Armand2REP

    China's first indigenous carrier CV17

    It costs about $250 million a year to operate the CdG. The real costs don't come down until it is time to refuel the reactors but you are saving that in unspent fuel. It pays for itself over time and provides far more capability.
  10. Armand2REP

    China's first indigenous carrier CV17

    The British carriers are conventional, the America class is conventional... why would that stop them from operating globally?
  11. Armand2REP

    China's first indigenous carrier CV17

    The main purpose of a military is not to use it. Showing the flag is a method of deterrence. The US has showed weakness in Syria pulling their flag and Turkey is now genociding Kurds and handing control to Russia. This is what happens when you don't promote your power.
  12. Armand2REP

    China's first indigenous carrier CV17

    Flagship's main job is to wave the flag. It is a form of soft power that brings fear to your enemies and confidence to your allies. It sways neutral parties on the fence to your side. The cost of fuel is not a concern, not for a country like China.
  13. Armand2REP

    China's first indigenous carrier CV17

    Syria is quite far from the Northern Fleet, it has to cruise all the way around Europe to get there.
  14. Armand2REP

    China's first indigenous carrier CV17

    Even the leaky Russian flagship cruises to distant ports, actions as far as Syria and cruising into the IOR is the least you expect from it. We expect great things from the shiny new flagship of China.
  15. Armand2REP

    China's first indigenous carrier CV17

    You can't properly test it without a proper shake-down cruise. An aircraft carrier is a not a pleasure boat, it is an intricate web of systems carrying your air power to distant corners of the globe.
  16. Armand2REP

    China's first indigenous carrier CV17

    Clearly they discovered something was seriously wrong with it after that as they fired the project manager and it hasn't been to sea longer than a week. A proper shake-down cruise lasts 6-8 weeks.
  17. Armand2REP

    China's first indigenous carrier CV17

    How long was it out, five or six days? Good call, there must be some serious design defects if it can't stay out longer than that.
  18. Armand2REP

    China's first indigenous carrier CV17

    My conclusions on J-20 being an unstealthy flying brick turned out to be true. MKI picked them up on radar all the way into Tibet. All you have to do is watch it at an airshow to know Rafale can fly circles around it. It still flies with under-powered Russian engines because your WS-15 test...
  19. Armand2REP

    China's first indigenous carrier CV17

    You are about as successful at that as was your invasion of Vietnam. How you declared victory after getting your ass handed to you is beyond me.
  20. Armand2REP

    China's first indigenous carrier CV17

    You just admitted you were doing your duty, the only duty that could be is 50 cent.
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