Xinjiang - a Chechnya in the making

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A Chechnya in the making

An iron fist in Xinjiang is fuelling an insurrection. China's leadership must switch tactics


THE Uighurs have never been particularly comfortable in China. Xinjiang, the region where these Turkic Muslims once formed the vast majority, came unwillingly into the Chinese empire. Rebels in parts of it even set up independent republics; a short-lived one was snuffed out by the Communist Party in 1949. Since then the regime in Beijing, 1,000 miles (1,600km) to the east, has sought to keep Xinjiang quiet. The policy is not working. The presidency of Xi Jinping risks sinking into a quagmire of ethnic strife. This could be China's Chechnya.

Over the past few decades the party has used several tactics to assert control. First it encouraged massive migration of Han Chinese into Xinjiang from other parts of China. Later it poured money into infrastructure and beefing up industry; the jobs thus created have gone overwhelmingly to Hans, who now make up more than 40% of the province's 22m people. In tandem the party has adopted a hard line towards the merest hint of dissatisfaction on the part of the Uighurs.

Discontent is spilling into the open, nonetheless. The past few days have been the bloodiest in Xinjiang since clashes in the provincial capital, Urumqi, left around 200 dead in 2009. It appears that nearly 100 people died in the violence. The dead include 59 alleged terrorists gunned down by police near Kashgar, the main city in southern Xinjiang, where the Uighurs are concentrated (and where the economy is weakest). These Uighurs had apparently attacked police stations and Han Chinese. Two days later a pro-government imam was stabbed to death outside the city's main mosque (see article).

Whenever violence flares up, the government's rhetoric is uncompromising and usually focused on the dangers of jihadism. In May, following a spate of attacks by Uighurs on government and civilian targets in Xinjiang and in other parts of China, Mr Xi demanded "walls made of copper and steel" and "nets spread from the earth to the sky" to catch the "terrorists". The party blames such attacks on Islamist militancy seeping across the border from Central and South Asia—notably from Afghanistan and Pakistan. It likes to claim that Uighurs live in harmony with the Han Chinese ("tightly bound together like the seeds of a pomegranate", as Mr Xi puts it).

The tragedy is that the government could end up proving itself right—by making jihadism the core of the Uighurs' militancy. For now the violence is fuelled principally by a welter of home-grown grievances and is strikingly amateurish: rarely are the perpetrators armed with anything more than knives. But in recent months the violence has been morphing, spreading beyond the region itself and taking on some of the hues of jihadism elsewhere—through suicide-attacks and indiscriminate killing of civilians.

Such acts are unspeakable. But there is evidence that China's heavy-handed approach in Xinjiang is radicalising a once-tolerant culture. Uighur activists abroad say the latest violence near Kashgar had nothing to do with terrorism, for instance; instead it was sparked by police efforts to enforce government bans against fasting during Ramadan.

From Sudan to the West Bank, the evidence is clear: once religion enters any conflict, it becomes harder to settle. The parallel with Chechnya should scare Mr Xi. What started out as a nationalist uprising in Russia's north Caucasus region in the 1990s was met by a brutal clampdown, which in turn spawned a violent Islamist movement. Since then Chechnya has been both a jihadist breeding-ground and a running sore for Russia.

About turn

There are hints that Mr Xi understands the problem. In May he convened a rare meeting of party bosses to discuss Xinjiang. That gathering recognised the need to boost employment among Uighurs, especially in southern Xinjiang. After the meeting state-owned enterprises in Xinjiang were told they had to hire at least a quarter of all staff from Uighur and other minorities. Education for Uighurs is another priority: work has just begun on Kashgar's first full-scale university.

Such steps are necessary, but still not enough. Uighurs' religious traditions should be respected, so that all Muslims are allowed to visit Mecca, not just those approved by the government. Education in the Uighur language could also be encouraged, as well as its use in workplaces. Mr Xi should disband the Xinjiang Production and Construction Corps, which runs a vast network of Han-dominated settlements.

And China should give up persecuting moderate Uighurs, who hardly embrace jihadism but are still angry about the government's repressive measures. Amid the carnage of the past few days, the authorities announced they had formally charged a prominent Uighur economist, Ilham Tohti, with separatism. "Fewer and fewer people dare to speak out" about ethnic policies in Xinjiang, Mr Tohti has lamented. If Xinjiang's Uighurs are not to fall prey to extremists, Mr Xi must allow people like Mr Tohti to speak out, not lock them away.
China's far west: A Chechnya in the making | The Economist
China is right that jiahdis cannot be allowed to take over the region.

However, the problem is that the Chinese do not understand the power and importance of religion, especially 'foreign' religion, and so they will continue to suffer by tring to Sinicise the religion and impose State monitoring and regulations.

Maybe now it is too late and so they will have to grin and bear it as they battle it and get killed in the bargain.
 

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Chinese shooting themselves on their foot by implementing their oppressive policies.

They will do a genocide and Han Migration for sure in Xinjiang but the adjacent regions like Pakistan and Afghanistan are never short of Jihadists to wage a war.
 

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Chinese shooting themselves on their foot by implementing their oppressive policies.

They will do a genocide and Han Migration for sure in Xinjiang but the adjacent regions like Pakistan and Afghanistan are never short of Jihadists to wage a war.
And with Afghanistan getting free of the West, the loonies from there will swarm Xinjiang.
 

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Disbanding Xinjiang Production and Construction Corps is a suicidal move. It is the last line of defense against insurgency if it ever happen. Militia mobilization is vital against insurgency. Furthermore, the mere presence shook the confidence of jihadists.
 

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Quote "Re: Heavy casualties reported in China knife attack
I hope this area won't become China's chechenya....but it looks like its heading that way....now lets see how they handle it...one thing is sure that it is going to be very ugly....!!!!! " Unquote

looks like it wasn't just me who could see it...don't understand why Chinese leadership is behaving the same way as ISIS doing right now or like talibani actions in past....!!!!
 

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Only out side power (jihadi/arms) save ughers from Chinese.But west in present circumstances won't support/cares about muslims/JIHADI'S....
Afg/por** are don't have capacity to get into China,Chinese r not Indians they Butcher them at border including some ughers :rofl:

p.s How it will become Chechanya without Arms&Jihadis ('coz lack of arms those poor guys attacking with knives & chinese killing 100's mercilessly)and i love Chinese strategy two decades before 80% population come down to 40% now, still ughers didn't get what Chinese are,if they still try to provoke may be next decade we found ughers in MUSEMS only :lol:
Chinese have their own tactics , one cannot suppress the feeling of independence and identity by brute force, particularly when there are other powers who are becoming enemies as we speak.

The more one uses the force the deadlier the opposition will become, Chinese will realize this by that time Xingjiang will become unstable for sure.
 

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Chinese have their own tactics , one cannot suppress the feeling of independence and identity by brute force, particularly when there are other powers who are becoming enemies as we speak.

The more one uses the force the deadlier the opposition will become, Chinese will realize this by that time Xingjiang will become unstable for sure.
Then, they better have a talk with their grandpa or great grandpa to check out which side could be more deadlier.
 

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as CCP China is not very cooperative with india , ref the thread on xi jinping trip delayed some ccp revealed that china wanna
conquer Indian territory , so why should we cooperate with them . Why not instead India cooperate with Pakhtun to help Xinjiang Muslim Brothers. That way India gains friendship with Paktun of Pakistan ( could come in handy eh? ) and show CCP-China that we are not forced to cooperate wit them if they are planning against us ( as always ) .
 

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Then, they better have a talk with their grandpa or great grandpa to check out which side could be more deadlier.
There is no CCP control over Indian internet.

Therefore there is no need to use codes like 'grandpa' and the like. You can mention in the clear. No PSB people are there to catch you and put you in the Laogai.

You would do a world of good to inform how China is taking steps to not have a Chechnya on their hands in Ximjiang, rather than wasting bandwidth with codes.
 
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Then, they better have a talk with their grandpa or great grandpa to check out which side could be more deadlier.
I am not speaking as if India is going to support Xinjiang terror, India and China are facing same Islamic terror.

Regarding your comment, ask your grand pa how they played the hide and seek game with us in 1962 and how they left their claimed lands and ran away and how the CCP is crying now for India's territories.
 

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It is requested that poster resort to openness and not use codes since those who have just come in to the thread have no idea what is going on and so they cannot contribute effectively.

Thank you.
 

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Regarding your comment, ask your grand pa how they played the hide and seek game with us in 1962 and how they left their claimed lands and ran away and how the CCP is crying now for India's territories.
No, I don't need to ask my grandfather since I can read how you guys celebrate your "victory" in 1962 and how you respect your "1962 hero" Nehru.
 

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I am not speaking as if India is going to support Xinjiang terror, India and China are facing same Islamic terror.

Regarding your comment, ask your grand pa how they played the hide and seek game with us in 1962 and how they left their claimed lands and ran away and how the CCP is crying now for India's territories.
Look at the map, you will see South Tibet is not easy to defend ( for both China and India) .
Right now, you have to maintain 8 times of forces than China on that border.
It is consuming a good part of your defence budget, that is what we want to see.

BTW, on the west side of border,we are just ~300km away from your capital and we able to turn it into a fireball and capture it in a few days (Mumbai in 1 or 2 weeks).
 
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Chinese have their own tactics , one cannot suppress the feeling of independence and identity by brute force, particularly when there are other powers who are becoming enemies as we speak.

The more one uses the force the deadlier the opposition will become, Chinese will realize this by that time Xingjiang will become unstable for sure.
not really look at israel, palastine can't do shit to them. this is with hama has weapons, in western china, they dont have that, they basically bring a knife to a gun fight
 

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I'm afraid ur Mighty CLA easily conquer Delhi/Mumbai/Antarctica but not some ROCKS in SCS
:lol: :lol:
For those rocks we have to fight with US.
For Delhi,we only need to fight with India.
 

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Ur Made in China Bravado work for 3 days only then u runway to ur Momma put ur TAIL in ur a**(like 1962) :p, why US risk herself it is only some Rocks and between U&Jpn

Yeah come&get Delhi :lol:
take it easy.

We will deal with those rocks first. So, you can relax for now.
 

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Look at the map, you will see South Tibet is not easy to defend ( for both China and India) .
Right now, you have to maintain 8 times of forces than China on that border.
It is consuming a good part of your defence budget, that is what we want to see.

BTW, on the west side of border,we are just ~300km away from your capital and we able to turn it into a fireball and capture it in a few days (Mumbai in 1 or 2 weeks).
CCP stop taking too much weed....nt good for you....!!!!!

China will capture delhi n Mumbai....LOL....wt a joke
 

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@CCP ; your are making yourself look so stupid when you talk about capturing mumbai and delhi. read indias nuclear doctrine before shitting from your mouth. we are more than capable to send you into stone age; where you wont find any dog to eat :)


next time whenever you make such stupid statements a cat will die.
 
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