Worries rise on succession of Dalai Lama

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Worries rise on succession of Dalai Lama


Chinese Communist Party leaders are afraid that the Dalai Lama will not have an afterlife. Worried enough that this week, officials repeatedly warned that he must reincarnate, and on their terms.


Tensions over what will happen when the 14th Dalai Lama, who is 79, dies, and particularly over who decides who will succeed him as the most prominent leader in Tibetan Buddhism, have ignited at the annual gathering of China's legislators in Beijing.

Officials have amplified their argument that the Communist government is the proper guardian of the Dalai Lama's succession through an intricate process of reincarnation that has involved lamas, or senior monks, visiting a sacred lake and divining dreams.

Party functionaries were incensed by the exiled Dalai Lama's recent speculation that he might end his spiritual lineage and not reincarnate. That would confound the Chinese government's plans to engineer a succession that would produce a putative 15th Dalai Lama who accepts China's presence and policies in Tibet. Their anger welled up on Wednesday, as it had a day earlier.

Zhu Weiqun, a Communist Party official who has long dealt with Tibetan issues, told reporters in Beijing on Wednesday that the Dalai Lama had, essentially, no say over whether he was reincarnated. That was ultimately for the Chinese government to decide, he said, according to a transcript of his comments on the website of People's Daily, the party's main newspaper.

"Decision-making power over the reincarnation of the Dalai Lama, and over the end or survival of this lineage, resides in the central government of China," said Zhu, formerly a deputy head of the United Front Department of the Communist Party, which oversees dealings with religious and other nonparty groups. He now leads the ethnic and religious affairs committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference, an advisory body that meets at the same time as the Legislature, or National People's Congress.

Zhu accused the Dalai Lama of trampling on sacred traditions.

"In religious terms, this is a betrayal of the succession of Dalai Lamas in Tibetan Buddhism," he said.

"The 14th Dalai Lama has taken an extremely frivolous and disrespectful attitude toward this issue," Zhu continued. "Where in the world is there anyone else who takes such a frivolous attitude toward his own succession?"

The idea of Communist Party officials defending the precepts of reincarnation and hurling accusations of heresy at the Dalai Lama might have Marx turning in his grave. The party is committed to atheism in its ranks, though it accepts religious belief in the public. And President Xi Jinping has declared his fealty to Marxist-Leninist dialectical materialism.

But the dispute over reincarnation has profound implications for Beijing and its hold over Tibetan areas, where protests and self-immolations have brought into focus simmering discontent. The Chinese government is determined to manage all aspects of Tibetan Buddhist tradition, including the most sacred rituals of succession, to ensure that the restive region remains firmly under Chinese control.

Party leaders would prefer to insert themselves surreptitiously into a succession process that carries the full weight of Tibetan tradition than to install a new Dalai Lama by fiat, which would almost certainly undermine the new religious leader's credibility inside Tibet.

So if the incumbent Dalai Lama, who remains revered in Tibet more than half a century after he fled into exile in 1959, uses his clout to nullify the historic selection process, China faces the prospect of continuing discontent there after his death. It would in essence be a last act of defiance by the Dalai Lama.

"I don't think the Dalai Lama would mind if you saw this through the prism of Monty Python," Robert Barnett, director of the modern Tibetan studies program at Columbia University, said in a telephone interview. "But he is reminding the Chinese that, from his perspective and the perspective of probably nearly all Tibetans, the Chinese don't really have a credible role in deciding these things."

The Dalai Lama has not commented on the latest warnings from China. But Lobsang Sangay, the prime minister of the Tibetan government in exile, based in Dharamsala, in northern India, was scathing on Tuesday, after the governor of the Tibetan autonomous region, Padma Choling, told reporters that the Dalai Lama had profaned the Tibetan Buddhist faith by suggesting that he might not be reincarnated.

"It's like Fidel Castro saying, 'I will select the next pope and all the Catholics should follow.' That is ridiculous," Sangay told Reuters on Tuesday. "It's none of Padma Choling or any of the Communist Party's business, mainly because Communism believes in atheism and religion being poisonous."


The Dalai Lama turns 80 in July, and as he has advanced in years, he and the Chinese government have both probably kept in mind the example of the succession of Panchen Lama, another senior figure in Tibetan Buddhism. After the 10th Panchen Lama died in 1989, the Dalai Lama confirmed a boy in Tibet as the next reincarnation in 1995. But the Chinese government hid away that boy and his parents and installed its own choice as the Panchen Lama. The Dalai Lama has indicated that he does not want to experience the same fate.

"Whether the institution of the Dalai Lama should continue or not is up to the Tibetan people," the Dalai Lama said in an interview with the BBC in December. "There is no guarantee that some stupid Dalai Lama won't come next, who will disgrace himself or herself. That would be very sad. So, much better that a centuries-old tradition should cease at the time of a quite popular Dalai Lama."

Since 1995, the Chinese authorities have claimed an increasingly active role in the succession of the Dalai Lama and other Tibetan Buddhist leaders, Barnett said. Under the Qing dynasty, he said, the Manchu emperors who ruled China maintained a limited role in confirming the succession of the Dalai Lama and other Tibetan Buddhist leaders, but the Communist Party has demanded an increasingly hands-on role in intricate rituals of succession.

"They finally ended up with the state deciding whether people could reincarnate," he said. "The lamas are left with a role that is in a way token in that process."

Tibetans are sure to reject any future putative Dalai Lama picked by the Chinese government, Dicki Chhoyang, the head of the Department of Information and International Relations of the Tibetan government in exile in Dharamsala, said in an interview.

"The person selected by the Chinese government is just as much a victim of the situation as anyone, so there's nothing personal held against that person," she said. "Communism, in theory, is atheist, so we're just like, 'This is too much.'

Tibetans, however, remain convinced that the Dalai Lama will ultimately continue his lineage of leading monks of the Gelugpa school of Tibetan Buddhism, a succession that dates from the 14th century, Barnett said. The Dalai Lama's warnings on succession, he said, are best understood as a way of encouraging Tibetans to focus on the issue and the options.

"The Tibetan people would never have faith in a so-called reincarnation appointed by the Chinese government," Tsering Woeser, a Tibetan author based in Beijing who is critical of Beijing's policies in her homeland, said in an online interview. "But I believe that the Dalai Lama will reincarnate."

Worries rise on succession of Dalai Lama - The Times of India
The Chinese are worried and they insists the Dalai Lama must reincarnate on the Chinese terms. Odd. I thought they did not believe in reincarnation. However, I will concede that they are sharp cookies who can have double standards to suit their political convenience.

It is most amusing that Zhu Weiqun, a Communist Party official stated that the Dalai Lama had, essentially, no say over whether he was reincarnated. That was ultimately for the Chinese government to decide. Imagine folks who spurn religion is to decide! More so, when President Xi Jinping has declared his fealty to Marxist-Leninist dialectical materialism. What could be more crazy and stupid than that?

The Chinese Govt is in a bind and its flapping like a netted bird. No Tibetan would ever believe that the Chinese Communist can reincarnate any leader of the Tibetans.
 

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His holy-highness Shri Dalai Lama surely knows how to troll chiness on this issue on rest chinese gov has larger control
 

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This statement is designed to exploit the divide in Tibetan Buddhism between sects that support the Dalai Lama and sects that don't.
 

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This statement is designed to exploit the divide in Tibetan Buddhism between sects that support the Dalai Lama and sects that don't.

Which are the sects that don't support the Dalai Lama?
 

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The Chinese are worried and they insists the Dalai Lama must reincarnate on the Chinese terms.
No, they are not worried and they are excited that Dalai Lama is going to die, which give them the golden opportunity to have Dalai Lama on their side.


Odd. I thought they did not believe in reincarnation. However, I will concede that they are sharp cookies who can have double standards to suit their political convenience.
They call it pragmatic.

It is most amusing that Zhu Weiqun, a Communist Party official stated that the Dalai Lama had, essentially, no say over whether he was reincarnated. That was ultimately for the Chinese government to decide. Imagine folks who spurn religion is to decide!
Well, Dalai Lama did when he sold his country and people to Qing in 17 centuries.

More so, when President Xi Jinping has declared his fealty to Marxist-Leninist dialectical materialism. What could be more crazy and stupid than that?
No he did not declared his fealty to Marxist-Leninist. Instead, he re-confirmed that he will follow Deng's policy: leaving Marxist-Leninist in the bin.

The Chinese Govt is in a bind and its flapping like a netted bird. No Tibetan would ever believe that the Chinese Communist can reincarnate any leader of the Tibetans.
No, Tibetan will do believe since this is not the first time that Chinese government reincarnate their leaders.
 
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Which are the sects that don't support the Dalai Lama?
The Shugden Dorje Controversy in Tibetan Buddhism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorje_Shugden_controversy#Response_by_the_14th_Dalai_Lama

In response, the 14th Dalai Lama, a Gelugpa himself and advocate of an "inclusive" approach to the teachings of Tibetan Buddhism,[5][2] started to speak out against the practice of Dorje Shugden in 1978.[6]

The controversy has attracted attention in the west following demonstrations by Dorje Shugden practitioners, especially Kelsang Gyatso's British based New Kadampa Tradition which broke away from the Gelugpa school in 1991. Other factions supporting Dorje Shugden are Serpom Monastic University and Shar Ganden monastery, which both separated from the Gelugpa mainstream in 2008.

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Scholar Donald Lopez explains that "The Dalai Lama's renunciation of Shugden in 1976 caused great discord within the Geluk community, where devotion to the deity remained strong among the Geluk hierarchy and among large factions of the refugee lay community; spirited defenses of his worship were written and published. Some went so far as to claim that the Dalai Lama was not the true Dalai Lama, that the search party had selected the wrong child forty years before.
 

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No, they are not worried and they are excited that Dalai Lama is going to die, which give them the golden opportunity to have Dalai Lama on their side.




They call it pragmatic.



Well, Dalai Lama did when he sold his country and people to Qing in 17 centuries.



No he did not declared his fealty to Marxist-Leninist. Instead, he re-confirmed that he will follow Deng's policy: leaving Marxist-Leninist in the bin.



No, Tibetan will do believe since this is not the first time that Chinese government reincarnate their leaders.
Your interpretation.

The Chinese believe in reincarnation. Mao shall rise again, right?
 

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