'Will swap land with Dhaka, halt illegal immigrants'

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  1. AVERAGE INDIAN

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    Prime Minister Narendra Modi said that his government would go ahead with a land transfer deal with Bangladesh keeping illegal influx and Assam’s long-term security interests in mind.

    Bangladesh stands to gain some 10,000 acres of land through this deal the UPA government had initiated in 2011 and placed as a bill for ratification in Rajya Sabha in December last year. The BJP in Assam had opposed this deal, as did the Trinamool Congress in West Bengal.

    Addressing party workers in Guwahati on Sunday, Modi said, “The land swap deal will be beneficial. It might seem to be an immediate loss for Assam, but it will serve security interests in the long term and help solve the problem of Bangladeshi migrants.”

    Infiltration from Bangladesh is a major issue in the Northeast. It is viewed as a demographic invasion designed to out-populate scores of indigenous communities in the region.

    The Prime Minister said there would be no compromise with the security of the strategic Northeast. “The forces trying to destabilise Assam and the Northeast should know that Delhi has a new government and the law will not spare them now,” he said.

    Insisting that the BJP brand of politics was not based on casteism, communalism or regionalism, Modi said his party believes in nationalism. “Our mantra of inclusive development has compelled all political parties to rework their agendas,” he said, adding that his government has special plans for the Northeast.

    'Will swap land with Dhaka, halt illegal immigrants' - Hindustan Times
     
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  3. Sylex21

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    No the land swap deal will have very little impact on illegal immigration directly. It will however help secure the boarders and that will have some minimal impact.

    Anyone who has any doubt about this deal should study the India-Bangladesh enclaves issue. Life is absolutely hellish for all the people living there, as they are person's without a state and suffer from a lack of social services, law enforcement and have rampant crime. Wish the prim minister all the best in implementing this as soon as possible, these people have all suffered for far too long as it is.

    Curious why the land swap amounts couldn't be move even from both sides. I assume it has something to do with the layout of the land, but if anyone is more familiar with that part of the issue, I'd love to hear more about why Bangladesh can't give 10,000 acres of some other land to even it out more.
     
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    It is important to make border administration easier for both countries. Incidents at Bangla border are a headache for both countries.

    India's long term goal should be to bring Bangladesh firmly within India's economic structures. Giving away 10000 acres is not a big deal.

    Use of Chittagong port and land transit are bigger issues.

    There are so many Bangladeshi in Delhi and Gurgaon working low paying jobs. I encounter Bangladeshi regularly. These men do not know English (come from Urdu medium schools).

    Borders are not very effective in stopping people when people are desperate.
     
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    Land swap is first of many steps. It will just smoothen out our border, and remove enclaves and exclaves on either side. Next up will be a proper border fence like the one lining Indo-Pak IB.
     
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    As per OP:

    [table="width: 500, class: grid, align: left"]
    [tr]
    [td]India to Bangladesh:[/td]
    [td]
    17160.63 acres​
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    [tr]
    [td]Bangladesh to India:[/td]
    [td]
    7110.20 acres​
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    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]India's loss:[/td]
    [td]
    10050.43 acres​
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    Excellent idea, Modi!

    NOT!
     
  7. Razor

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    What I understand from the OP article is:

    1.) This agreement supposedly helps curb demographic-changing illegal immigration. If true, this itself is a greater benefit than 10k acres, i.e. 40 sq.km.
    2.) Also this agreement along with the Water Sharing agreement helps India access the Chittagong port.

    These seem to me, like they are advantages for India.

    Additionally the lives of people living in these enclaves are a nightmare. This agreement should imho solve that issue.

    What I'm wondering is what has changed in this agreement, which made BJP change its mind.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Not taking into account the loss of land, the idea that there will be a continuous border and no enclaves does appear suitable for Border Management.\

    The riverine border, mostly in Dhubri district of Assam and southern West Bengal, presents peculiar problems, as it is difficult to locate permanent Border Outposts (BOPs) in the area due to swelling of the Brahmaputra and other rivers that increases the depth of the river by about 30 feet. The ‘char’ areas thrown up during the dry season and which people inhabit, are almost completely submerged. Patrolling in such areas is problematic. The nature of the border configuration affords an easy opportunity to the infiltrators and smugglers to cross over to India. The crossing is further facilitated because the border is thickly populated.



    The problem of enclaves, adverse possession and disputed land is prevalent on the Indo-Bangladesh border. Enclaves become convenient points for smuggling, avoiding customs and excise duties, importing of contraband, and are a point of entry for illegal aliens. There are 111 Indian enclaves (17,158 acres) in Bangladesh and 51 Bangladesh enclaves (7,110.02 acres) in India. Historically, enclaves date back to the period of the expansion of the Mughal Empire into northern Bengal in the late seventeenth century and continued till the British established control of the state. The southern frontier of the West Bengal border is much more vulnerable, and so the number crossing is larger. Several areas of Kolkata have already been saturated with Bangladeshi nationals. West Bengal and Assam are being increasingly used by Bangladeshi nationals to spread to other parts of India.

    Details from my archive.
     
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    Good. Land swap should have been done long ago. I hope the terrorist party TMC does not try to sabotage this noble task. Anything can be expected of the Banshee and the raving lunatic quizmaster.
     
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    Great piece of info....
     
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    Thank you!! Credit goes to the FB Poster..
     
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    Land swap is decided on land value, rather than land area. We're probably ironing out our border by taking in valuable land.
     
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    Please see this video to understand how complicated borders can be, with exclaves, enclaves, and nth Order Enclaves.

    See from 5:10 onwards.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtLxZiiuaXs

    Disclaimer: Might not be accurate, but reasonably correct.
     
  15. ezsasa

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    My vote is in favour of land swapping. This thread has enough info for making a call.
     

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