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https://blogs.timesofindia.indiatim...lame-the-army-blame-exploitative-politicians/

For stone-pelter deaths in Kashmir, don’t blame the Army, blame exploitative politicians

The Supreme Court has rightly quashed a police investigation against Major Aditya Kumar who ordered Army troops under his command to open fire upon stone-pelters, resulting in three civilian deaths, in Shopian, Kashmir, earlier this year.

A bench of the SC ruled that an Army officer could not be treated as an ‘ordinary criminal’.

Only too often the Army gets blamed for situations which were created by cynical and exploitative politics which result in creating conditions of social unrest and often violent protests which have to be quelled through the use of armed force by the military.

The duty of the armed forces is to guard the country’s frontiers and defend it from foreign aggression.

But increasingly the Army is brought in to counter internal turmoil – be it in Kashmir, the Northeast, or elsewhere within the country – which the civil administration is unable to handle.

The so-called ‘Kashmir problem’, which has been a bleeding wound for over 70 years and has claimed thousands of lives, has been created by successive political regimes, who have cynically, or ineptly, mishandled it.

True, Pakistan has played a major role in the tragedy of Kashmir by its sponsorship of cross-border terrorism. But the effective way to deal with Pakistan’s covert involvement in fomenting trouble in Kashmir is not through the use of armed force against the civilian population but through a combination of surgical strikes against terrorist camps across the border, and an international diplomatic strategy aimed at putting Pakistan in the dock as a sponsor of terrorism.

The process of ‘winning the hearts and minds’ of the Kashmiri people can only be done through a politics of reconciliation and dialogue. The use of armed force against civilians only plays into the hands of Pakistani-backed militants who use incidents like the Shopian firing to recruit local youths to join their unholy war.

Kashmir has been, and continues to be, a failure on the part of the political establishment, and the Army cannot be made the scapegoat. The indiscriminate use of the military force against civilian populations within the country undermines the morale of our soldiers who, constrained to use often lethal force against their compatriots, are made to feel like an army of alien occupation.

As the SC has ruled, in the Shopian case Major Kumar is not the ‘criminal’. Those who ought to face charges of criminal negligence, or bungling, are the politicians who have created the disease of violent dissent of which the many Shopians, in Kashmir and other parts of the country, are only the symptoms
 

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The LOC Is Hyper Active. But Why At Uri?
by Syed Ata Hasnain - Mar 07, 2018, 12:37 pm

Jammu and Kashmir LoC, BSF, (AUSEEF MUSTAFA/AFP/Getty Images)


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  • In conventional warfare terms, Uri is a natural objective for Pakistan and its positioning makes it vulnerable to infiltration throughout the year.

    Uri is a testing ground, and testing is what Pakistan is doing along with diversion of attention to effect early infiltration in preparation for the 2018 campaigning season.

Fifteen years after they fell silent, artillery guns are ablaze once again at Uri, one of the best known sectors based on a big name town on the geographical spread of the Line of Control (LoC) between India and Pakistan. Uri is immediately north of the Pir Panjal. In 2003 and prior, it was routine here for both sides to target posts, picquets and logistics routes with a plethora of military wherewithal including guided missiles, sniper rifles and most importantly artillery guns. Much of this affected the civilian gentry too who bore this with clenched teeth and much trepidation. In the interim, brief exchanges of small arms fire have occurred infrequently. Use of mortars was briefly resorted to in 2012-13 when the Indian Army laid low some Pakistani attempts to brow beat it on the legitimate construction of bunkers on our side of the LoC at a crucial post. In fact, it was that incident which commenced the spiral of actions on the LoC from 2013 onwards in the Jammu region, south of the Pir Panjal, to include Poonch, Mendhar and Rajouri.

So why has such intense action returned to Uri? A few clarifications about the latest situation and then a short brief on the terrain will help understand this better. There have been intense exchanges of fire along the LoC with some cross LoC actions through 2017 and early 2018, mainly south of the Pir Panjal range. The Indian Army’s response has been strong and professional although, as can be expected, there have been losses on our side too. Our assessment has always been that such firing is linked to infiltration, but infiltration in Pir Panjal South has been almost negligible, confirmed by very low terrorist activity. It is also evident that LoC activation by Pakistan is to keep the Indian Army diverted in focus while infiltration is attempted in the Valley’s LoC sector.

Geographically, Uri is a bulge towards Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK), and the sector is divided north and south almost equally by a major obstacle, the River Jhelum. In conventional warfare terms, it is a natural objective for Pakistan, being easier to address through two prongs either side of the river, from north and south into the salient. It is also detached from the main Valley; a western limb. In addition, it is an area which offers terrain from as low as 4000 feet to heights up to 14500 feet. Thus it is vulnerable to infiltration right through the year; the higher reaches opening in June every year.

Uri is also an area populated in majority by Paharis and Gujjars, not traditionally favouring Pakistan. In all three major conflicts between India and Pakistan, 1947-48, 1965 and 1971, this population assisted the Indian Army in considerable measure, notwithstanding that in the last couple of years some of the best guides for infiltration have also come from the same communities primarily for a price. Areas such as Lipa and Tangdhar being further from the proximity of the main Valley offer comparatively less lucrative objectives, although equally if not more important infiltration avenues. Thus diversion in Uri while attempting infiltration along those avenues does make sense. This year the snowfall has been the lowest in living memory thus opening up the window for early infiltration to make up the numbers in the Valley to allow a full season of terror activities.

For Pakistan, it also makes sense to activate the Valley LoC to directly affect 15 Corps, the Indian Army formation responsible for the military domain in the Valley but to what extent is a moot point? Going beyond a threshold will get the Indian Army to respond in areas where it has a decided advantage. In the Lipa sector, there is no population on our side while the Pakistan brigade headquarters can be viewed from almost all our posts along with a large number of villages. In Tangdhar sector, the quantum of population on both sides is almost equal but, it’s the area of the Nilam Valley from Tithwal to Keran where the full advantage lies with India. There is much lesser population on our side of the LoC while the PoK side has much of it. The Nilam Valley road, which is the shortest logistics supply route to the Pakistani formations deployed in the north, is completely open to targeting by the Indian Army’s dominant positions. Closure of this route imposes a heavy penalty in time and effort in resupplying the Pakistan Army deployment in the north through three bypasses.

Therefore Uri is a testing ground, and testing is what Pakistan is doing along with diversion of attention to effect early infiltration in preparation for the 2018 campaigning season. That only the south Jhelum sub-sector and that too only a part of it has been activated stands testimony to the above analysis. Here there is population close to the LoC on our side (a thousand people have fled to safer places) but none on the PoK side; further north in the Uri sector there is a much larger population on both sides. Indian Army’s response has rightly been calibrated, and there is no attempt at horizontal escalation. But vertical escalation has been swift, extremely professional and involved even the employment of artillery for the first time in fifteen years. Horizontal escalation will unnecessarily divert more attention and only if Pakistan continues its mind games will the necessity arise to take the escalation to Lipa and Nilam Valleys with heavy attrition on it.

The LoC is a strange place and operations based on it in a ‘no war-no peace’ scenario are extremely difficult to comprehend for even those in uniform who do not have the requisite experience of handling situations there. They are all about moral ascendancy and psychological one-upmanship besides the usual phenomenon of infiltration.

Uri is a ‘big name place’ and especially, after the 2016 suicide attack on the brigade headquarters, has become a natural objective to play mind games. Much is dependent even on local rivalries, attention-seeking gestures and attempts at browbeating. It cannot be forgotten that the newly appointed Corps Commander of 15 Corps is an ex DGMO whose responses in the field are being tested. The new General Officer Commanding of the division responsible for Uri sector is an old hand under whose earlier command of a brigade in the same sector the Pakistan Army unit opposite Uri was bloodied in 2012-13. Even when units of the two armies who have faced each other earlier meet again by sheer chance on the LOC, the rivalry is intense.

The LoC dynamics will continue; there are no winners and no losers here. Destruction and casualties are temporary situations and do not denote victory. From Uri North to Kargil and Siachen, the major part of the LoC is still peaceful. If Pakistan attempts any further escalation, our calibrated response should be qualitatively higher, heavier and more intense. The aim should be to limit diversion and achieve fully effective counter infiltration. Drying up the Valley of foreign terrorists and ensuring sufficient outreach to the population to prevent fresh recruitment of alienated youth is the larger aim which will prevent Pakistan from achieving its goals

The writer is a former GOC of India’s Srinagar based 15 Corps, now associated with Vivekanand International Foundation and the Institute of Peace and Conflict Studies.
 

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Use of mortars was briefly resorted to in 2012-13 when the Indian Army laid low some Pakistani attempts to brow beat it on the legitimate construction of bunkers on our side of the LoC at a crucial post. In fact, it was that incident which commenced the spiral of actions on the LoC from 2013 onwards in the Jammu region, south of the Pir Panjal, to include Poonch, Mendhar and Rajouri.
I guess this answers the "Why IA uses such crappy posts and bunkers on LOC?" question.

Lt. Gen. Hussein being brilliant as usual.
 

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Check this out! Major embarrassment to RaGa in Singapore!


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More in the vid below....RaGa is all at sea! And he's dreaming of becoming the next PM of India!! Jeeez!! :doh: :crazy:

And here I was thinking it was LOC thread
 

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Delivered by Russia? :confused1: I thought the air launched Brahmos is being manufactured in India?
National interest. Literally the worst source on Indian defence procurement. According to them India got zero defence manufacturing capability. They were & are the main source of hitjobs on Tejas.
 

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China’s foreign minister suggests ‘Chinese dragon’ and ‘Indian elephant’ should dance, not fight
You remember that ugly bitch that used to come & give loud bombastic statements. Sher was purged by Winnie the Pooh. The Chinese are very slowly realizing what they have gotten themselves into by fighting us.
Need thorough analysis of this video
MMG or HMG. Somewhere along the LOC. Indian troops & Porkis are shooting at eac other. The sudden convert like flashes are tracers. Also if you pay attention on Pani side there is near constant lighting. It is not light but gun flash. Compared to them our fir is very reserved. Knowing what is happening the last few months, I would like to say it is because we know exactly where the Pskis are.
 

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https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...rcise-to-resume-army-chief-1188619-2018-03-14

India, China annual military exercise to resume: Indian Army Chief Bipin Rawat
HIGHLIGHTS
  • India, China annual military exercise to resume, Rawat said
  • Chinese FM Wang Yi held bilateral talks with Sushma Swaraj in December
  • PM Narendra Modi to visit China in June this year

File photo: India, China cross-border military exercises

After the Doklam stand-off, relationship between India and China which had turned "sour" was seen improving now. The Army Chief General Bipin Rawat said today that the annual India-China military exercise will soon resume.

Rawat said, the "bonhomie" between the two forces was back. The military diplomacy with China worked and the border personnel meetings that had stopped post Doklam stand-off have begun again.

The hand-in-hand exercise with China happens every year. Only in the last year, this exercise was shelved (due to simmering tensions over Doklam), but this exercise is back on the cards.
- Army Chief Bipin Rawat
The border personnel of India and China were locked in a 73-day stand-off last year in Doklam.

The disengagement of forces took place in August last year, after hectic parleys between the two countries.

So the military diplomacy with China has worked and is moving forward and ensuring that there is a thaw in the relations...the relationship had turned sour but I think it is all getting over now.
- General Rawat said
The issue could come up for discussion while Defence Minister Nirmala Sitharaman's visit to China next month.

The high official visits between the two sides continued after the Doklam face-off ended in August, last year.

Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi visited India in December to attend the RIC (Russia India China) Foreign ministers meeting where he also held bilateral talks with his Indian counterpart Sushma Swaraj.

Last month, Foreign Secretary Vijay Gokhale also made a trip to Beijing, where he held talks with Wang Yi.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi is likely to visit China in June this year to attend the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation meeting.
 
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