Russia's approach to Cultural and Ethnic Differences

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  1. Damian

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    Then we should agree that for example russian alphabet is retarted because it is different than more world wide used latin alphabet, of course avarage Russian inhabitant (including politicians) are not well educated on this matter, thus predominate alphabet is obsolete and not world wide used cyrilic.

    You see how full of absurd are your silly beliefs?

    You are actually great example of technological rascism, typical for Russia's fanboys.

    And all of that was beyond capabilities of Russian scientific and industrial base. This is the fact, no matter how you would defend them, the facts are facts, Russia in many terms is way behind other highly developed countries... well actually without nuclear weapons and natural resources Russia would be just ignored, as big in teritory but insignificant poor country.
     
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    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

    Unless the same, language will not be universally understandable no matter the alphabet, and it has nothing to do with measuring system (search about the reasons which led to it's establishment).


    Yeah, it was insignificant in most of history until after 19th century :)).
     
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    Of course that universal numerical designation and decimal system is not nececary, neither one universal language is nececary, neither agreeing with you is nececary.

    There is no reason, neither nececity that everything should be universal or the same, in fact diversity might help. It is a known story how many problems Soviet engineers had during copying of B-29. :)


    ? If you didn't understood then let me repeat, Russia without nuclear weapons and natural resources would be insignificant today, I do not care about past, besides that I as a Pole, would have great respect to Tsar and his family, as he was also King of Poland during specific period of history, contrary to many beliefs, Tsar was respected during his rule in Poland (even if nation wanted to be free, they never disrepsected Tsar, and Tsar and his family never disrepsected his non ethinc Russian citizens), which is contrary to rule of Bolsheviks, communist party and current Russian goverment which is also formed mostly for former KGB officers and communists and their partners, that I preaty much hate, as they all were or still are thugs, criminals, and tyrants.

    So I actually have great respect to Tsars Russia, but I have great disrespect of this after Tsar's rule caricature and abomination.
     
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    Yeah, and neither communication is necessary, renounce to language :))

    All technical, scientifical (mathematical, physical entities) should be universally understandable to facilitate world developement, that made all possible so far, isolation is retarted.

    Same applies to US where most of knowledge came from education in Europe, and still does.


    It was not impossibility from developemental view (which succeeded) but management and investment. For examples you should look at US, FCS, etc.

    It is completely wrong belief given facts and that there is very great scientifical potential (that is why it is necessary to diversify economy).

    Historically Russia always had slavophile policy and no difference was made to such inhabitants, they were considered the same, in contrast with Poles which considered their own people inferior, treated them as slaves and forced religion as imposed by West (now Ukraine, Belarus), of course there are correct people but it is historical contrast.

    Goverment after Revolution and it's actions can hardly be applied to Russian nation as most of leadership was not even Russian (slavic), and they have suffered the most from hands of ethnically different goverment.
     
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    No, you just learn other languages if it is nececary, simple as that, no need for one single universal language. English become a more world wide known due to several reasons, same as Latin before, but this does not mean that these were or are universal languages.

    The only reterded being here is you. There is no isolation in USA, they just have more common to them, but different for us system, simple as that. Besides this if you have problems with calculating short tons to metric tons, this further proves you are retarted... a hint, you can simply calculate this using calculators avaiable in the internet, yeah it is that simple.


    Russia had been beaten by poorly armed, outnumbered Chechens... yeah we should rather learn from USA, which contrary to popular belief was not beaten by military might in Vietnam. Vietnam was purely politicaly lost, because after Tet offensive Vietcong had been completely destroyed by US forces, and North Vietnam forces were forced to retreat, but left wing parties and organisations forced goverment to withdrawn troops from Vietnam, which was tragic mistake, but after all communist forces were defeated during Tet offensive.

    Russia is hardly a good example.

    From where you know that no requirement was not met? You have access to US Army classiefied documents? No, so maybe stop writing such nonsense, you know nothing.


    You know nothing about Poland, which was most tolerant country in mid ages and later, when in europe people were killed due to relligion or other issues, in my country they were capable to live peacfully.

    It seems that soviet propagand completely brainwashed you. There are non Polish historians that made enourmous research, and written great books, that are objective. For example mister Ivor Norman Richard Davies have a very high opinion about Poland and he is more credible than some retarted brainwashed Bellarussian.



    Maybe it's time to read some objective and impartial historical books written by real historians not Kremlin propagandists?

    Because for me, person that studied History, you are nothing more than pure ignorant... and you are literally poorly educated dumb.

    What is funny, is that for example King Casimir The Great, even protected Jews, antisemithism in Poland was non existant for a very long period of time.

    Even Muslims were peacfully leaving among ethnic Poles, and what is even more funny, they were also providing troops for armed forces, despite many conflicts with muslim countries in southern Europe.
     
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    This has nothing to do measuring standart.

    It still makes a funny impression to see figures expressed in primitive system, refusal to adopt international system with no reason is actually retarded.

    Russia never lost Caucasus, there is no threat of losing it.

    You should stop believing in propaganda, when in fact US forces are beaten every time by third worlders. How many scum died in that war, which forced retirement ?

     
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    Being against diversity is retarted.

    What?! Where?!


    Aha, you get in to my trap like a little child. So now we know who you really are. :pound:

    What a dumbass. So you call soldiers a scums? So you actually admitt that you hate USA? Let me guess, you are little communist? Hmmm yeah, the same as communists who killed POW's in Katyn? The same communists like Che Guevara who was killing innocent people? The same communist thugs whoe were killing innocent people in Hue?

    You must be so proud, do you? ;)

    Not entirely, learn english, read documents.

    Heh, you pretend to be smarter than proffesional soldiers and officers who knows better what they need... right.


    Historic propaganda? The men who ignores history is just plain ignorant, like you.

    Everything.

    What?! So you are religious fanatic? Maybe you should read some books, than spread such silly things.

    Poles were hostile to Slavs? Oh damn, how it is then possible than in Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth Poles, Lithuanians and minorities from today Bellarus and Ukraine could live peacfully with eachother?

    Or Jews, you know that in Poland was a law that anyone who was agressive towards minorities, could be punished by death penalty? Of course you didn't know, as all historical ignorants. Jews were even dubbed as "Kings People". Muslims (Tatars) were also living peacfully within commonwealth despite conflicts and wars with Poland in past. More tatars were also providing troops for commonwealth army. So commonwealth army as well as whole commonwealth was multinational and multireligious, where Catholics, Orthodox, Jews, Muslims even protestants were leaving peacefully, and were coperating.

    Bellarusians and Ukrainians had the same laws that ethnic Poles, and more, the easter lands of commonwealth was known for having many very rich nobles that have their families living there for very long time. In fact the eastern part of commonwealth have even richer nobility than western part.

    You better educate yourself.

    Poland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    History of Poland during the Piast dynasty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    History of Poland during the Jagiellon dynasty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    History of Poland in the Early Modern era (1569–1795) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    You think that this is propaganda? Seriously?

    Damn I talked with ethnic Russians that are not fanatics like you and are far more friendly, and objective than you. So yeah, of course you are right that ethnic Russians suffered the most from nonethnic leadership, this leadership were people just same as you.

    For me you are nothing more than a thug, a fanatic.

    To be honest I should end any discussion with you, as I am disgusted with people so full of pure hate to diversity and other nations, like you.
     
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    English, Spanish, Portuguese - is the colonial languages. Therefore, they so widespread.. Russia has NEVER had colonies!
     
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    Russia had no colonies? What about Ukraine, Bellarus, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, Poland, former Czechoslovakia, East Germany, Caucasus countries etc. etc. etc.

    Everything within iron grasp of Russian bear, and of course everyone in these countries was forced during his education to learn Russian. ;)

    Remember that in politics, not everything is written black on white, something are not called like they should be called, but this does not means such things never happen.

    This of course does not mean that for example Poland din't had a some form of colonies in form of some territories captured during historical period.

    It is funny that term colony have such negative feeling allaround it, while colony does not nececary means something negative, but of course can.
     
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    This modern Western interpretation of history. In Russia (USSR) had allies or sattelites - but not colonies. On all these territories operate their own laws - something like U.S. states. We studied the their languages these countries had their own Ministry of Economy. In tsarist Russia not Slavs even called in the army. Whereas in Poland and Finland was even a currency. Agree - it's liberal laws for the time.
     
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    This thread is all about one's frustration at the inglorious history of one's country's subservience to Russia in general (Russian Federation, USSR, RSFSR, and Russian Empire).

    History is nor fair. Not all nations are equal. Some rule over others, some are ruled by others. The nations change positions with time, but this is what always happens.

    I think we should get over it and move on.
     
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    My favorite map of Poland

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    I have not lived in Tsarist Russia:rofl:, but I lived in the Soviet Union and the child went traveled a lot of the country and felt nowhere, that was restriction of people on nationalities. or the Ukraine - a colony. Suppose I was a teenager and did not understand everything. However, my parents were also not Russian. My father did by nationality - Greek. And they remember a time without fear. Yeah, I do not like modern Russia, but I will always respectfully put to the nation itself
     

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