Pakistan succesfully test fires Hatf v-Ghauri Missile

[Agnostic Muslim]

another angle

How come they have almost same height :shocked:

We need to ask NK for the specification not pak to know about the paint job...

This kind of analysis falls into the same category as the brilliant analysis of the success or failure of a missile test along with determining the manufacturer of the missile by viewing a video snippet showing the faces of the people at the test site.

Please see data below from the site link provided by Lurkerbaba:

Hatf 5 (Ghauri)
Country: Pakistan
Associated Country: Iran, People's Republic of China, North Korea
Alternate Name: Ghauri 1/Mark III
Class: MRBM
Basing: Road Mobile
Length: 15.90 m
Diameter: 1.35 m
Launch Weight: 15850 kg
Payload: Single warhead, 1200 kg
Warhead: Nuclear 15 to 35 kT, chemical, HE, submunitions
Propulsion: Single-stage liquid
Range: 1300 km
Status: Operational
In Service: 1998

Hatf 4 (Shaheen I)
Country: Pakistan
Alternate Name: Shaheen 1/Tarmuk
Class: SRBM
Basing: Road mobile
Length: 12.00 m
Diameter: 1.00 m
Launch Weight: 9500 kg
Payload: Single warhead, 700 kg
Warhead: 750 kg; Nuclear 35 kT, chemical, HE, submunitions
Propulsion: Single-stage solid
Range: 750 km
Status: Operational
In Service: 1999


Please also keep in mind that the two missiles (Ghauri vs Shaheen) use different types of fuel and therefore you cannot do a direct apples to apples comparison between them.

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

OFFTOPIC

Shaheen is claimed to be modeled after US- Pershing missile but the specs are very different?

I believe Shaheen I is suspected to be a derivative of the Chinese M-9 missile (the specs do not match the M-9 exactly either).

 

[sayareakd]

This kind of analysis falls into the same category as the brilliant analysis of the success or failure of a missile test along with determining the manufacturer of the missile by viewing a video snippet showing the faces of the people at the test site.

It appears that asking questions is not habit in your country. Still from the looks of it your engineers are not at all happy with the test, their body language say so. If you are happy with it be my guest. We are not at all concern about your missile test. We have already intercepted such type of rockets.

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

It appears that asking questions is not habit in your country. Still from the looks of it your engineers are not at all happy with the test, their body language say so. If you are happy with it be my guest. We are not at all concern about your missile test. We have already intercepted such type of rockets.

I have no issue with questions being asked, but surely you agree that using out of context imagery and video to come up with conclusions, such as the ones mentioned in my previous post, is not the most appropriate means of analysis.

 

[Blackwater]

how come all the missile have same height but different range ??

Ask any chinis or north Korean, he is the wrong person

 

[sayareakd]

I have no issue with questions being asked, but surely you agree that using out of context imagery and video to come up with conclusions, such as the ones mentioned in my previous post, is not the most appropriate means of analysis.

point was that persons who are supposed to make it, even after successful test are in very defensive and had sad look on their face.

here is pic after A5 launch

now look at engineers from previous launch

looks like they are attending funeral.
Ofcourse you can say that they are so stressed out that they want to go home and are happy in heart.

 

[lcatejas]

This kind of analysis falls into the same category as the brilliant analysis of the success or failure of a missile test along with determining the manufacturer of the missile by viewing a video snippet showing the faces of the people at the test site.

Please see data below from the site link provided by Lurkerbaba:

Hatf 5 (Ghauri)
Country: Pakistan
Associated Country: Iran, People's Republic of China, North Korea
Alternate Name: Ghauri 1/Mark III
Class: MRBM
Basing: Road Mobile
Length: 15.90 m
Diameter: 1.35 m
Launch Weight: 15850 kg
Payload: Single warhead, 1200 kg
Warhead: Nuclear 15 to 35 kT, chemical, HE, submunitions
Propulsion: Single-stage liquid
Range: 1300 km
Status: Operational
In Service: 1998

Hatf 4 (Shaheen I)
Country: Pakistan
Alternate Name: Shaheen 1/Tarmuk
Class: SRBM
Basing: Road mobile
Length: 12.00 m
Diameter: 1.00 m
Launch Weight: 9500 kg
Payload: Single warhead, 700 kg
Warhead: 750 kg; Nuclear 35 kT, chemical, HE, submunitions
Propulsion: Single-stage solid
Range: 750 km
Status: Operational
In Service: 1999


Please also keep in mind that the two missiles (Ghauri vs Shaheen) use different types of fuel and therefore you cannot do a direct apples to apples comparison between them.

Ok ! so what's the specification of Paint JOB....How log it took to paint these imported missiles...

 

[Virendra]

When does Pakistan plan to phase out these liquid propellants and have solid fuel missiles?
Their taller than mountain friends are on it.

 

[farhan_9909]

work on ghauri 3 as well production of liquid fuel missile is stopped

training related test as the news says

 

[Blackwater]

work on ghauri 3 as well production of liquid fuel missile is stopped

training related test as the news says

kyo china se $$ nahi mile

 

[farhan_9909]

shaheen series and plutonium warheads

 

[Blackwater]

shaheen series and plutonium warheads

will u supply shaheen series to gajwa-a-hind

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

When does Pakistan plan to phase out these liquid propellants and have solid fuel missiles?
Their taller than mountain friends are on it.

kyo china se $$ nahi mile

will u supply shaheen series to gajwa-a-hind

So is this the intellectual level of discourse you are reduced to when left with no rational arguments to make in response to the arguments made by Farhan and I on this thread?

 

[Yusuf]

@Agnostic Muslim

Blackwater is Someone you don't debate with when it comes to Pakistan. He is the expert.

 

[Blackwater]

So is this the intellectual level of discourse you are reduced to when left with no rational arguments to make in response to the arguments made Farhan and I on this thread?

there is saying in our area may in ur area also.

bhaans ke age been bajana

when you people are in denial mode wats the point arguing

BTW enjoy this section

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...stupid-funny-allover-world-51.html#post625658

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

@Agnostic Muslim

Blackwater is Someone you don't debate with when it comes to Pakistan...

Apparently so ...

 

[Apollyon]

'Mysterious metal objects' in Dadu fell from Hatf V missile: ISPR

KARACHI: The mysterious metallic objects, which fell from the sky baffling villagers in Dadu late Wednesday night, were parts of Pakistan's Hatf V Ghauri missile, a spokesman for the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) said on Friday.

"The metal parts found in a remote area of Dadu, as reported in media today, were part of the motor body, which separated from the missile as planned, well within the safety corridor," said a statement by the ISPR.
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The biggest fragment weighing 187 kilograms:shocked: fell on a ground in Allah Jurio Lund village, 30 kilometres from Dadu. Other pieces fell on Pir Mashaikh, Shehak Rodnani and Khandhani villages.

'Mysterious metal objects' in Dadu fell from Hatf V missile: ISPR | DAWN.COM

Pakistan should sue North Korea for faulty Missile

 

[rock127]

'Mysterious metal objects' in Dadu fell from Hatf V missile: ISPR


KARACHI: The mysterious metallic objects, which fell from the sky baffling villagers in Dadu late Wednesday night, were parts of Pakistan's Hatf V Ghauri missile, a spokesman for the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) said on Friday.

"The metal parts found in a remote area of Dadu, as reported in media today, were part of the motor body, which separated from the missile as planned, well within the safety corridor," said a statement by the ISPR.
~~~~~~~~~
The biggest fragment weighing 187 kilograms fell on a ground in Allah Jurio Lund village, 30 kilometres from Dadu. Other pieces fell on Pir Mashaikh, Shehak Rodnani and Khandhani villages.

'Mysterious metal objects' in Dadu fell from Hatf V missile: ISPR | DAWN.COM

Pakistan should sue North Korea for faulty Missile

What????????

 

[Blackwater]

ARACHI: The mysterious metallic objects, which fell from the sky baffling villagers in Dadu late Wednesday night, were parts of Pakistan's Hatf V Ghauri missile, a spokesman for the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) said on Friday.

"The metal parts found in a remote area of Dadu, as reported in media today, were part of the motor body, which separated from the missile as planned, well within the safety corridor," said a statement by the ISPR.
~~~~~~~~~
The biggest fragment weighing 187 kilograms fell on a ground in Allah Jurio Lund village, 30 kilometres from Dadu. Other pieces fell on Pir Mashaikh, Shehak Rodnani and Khandhani villages.

 

[Yusuf]

@Agnostic Muslim,

Best intel available and coming from the Americans who lot more says Pak yield is 10kt range.

This represents very old design warheads.

Satellites, spy planes with intel gathering equipment after Pak test says a lot.

And tactical nuke threat of Pak is really

Seriously what can be mounted on the Nasr? And what cannot be achieved by conventional weapons for the same result?
What I have seen is that Pakistan thinks that nukes are a super guarantee. For every threat the answer is a nuke.

Let me throw in a scenario, let's assume Pak is way ahead and has 200 bombs. India makes a massive thrust as per cold start. 8 IBGs. Multiple front thrust. How many Nasr with tactical nukes will you fire to stop the advance?

Guess what, Indian soldiers are preparing/prepared for NBC. You just wasted a few tens of nukes. It makes many indian cities a lot safer as that many nukes less that Pak can throw on our cities. And best of all India will finish off all major Pakistani population centers.

The more Pak thinks it can secure itself with nukes, the worse off it is gong to get. Add to this the massive expense to make and keep secure the nukes.

If the Indian govt goes for the plan I have been recommending for upping the stakes, it will totally finish Pak economically that even the aid money that they divert will not be enough.