Javelin missile acquisition from US hits a roadblock

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  1. hit&run

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    Javelin missile acquisition from US hits a roadblock | NDTV.com

    New Delhi: A proposal to acquire Javelin anti-tank guided missiles from the US has hit a roadblock over transfer of critical technology and reluctance of the American government to participate in the field trials.

    India is looking to acquire the third-generation anti-tank guided missiles for modernising its more than 350 Infantry units and provide them the capability to destroy enemy armoured regiments.

    The US is not agreeing to provide critical technologies of the missile demanded by India and has also shown reluctance to make available the missiles for being evaluated by Indian experts in the field trials, sources told PTI.

    Till the time these issues are sorted out, it would be difficult for the Indian side to proceed further on the deal, they said.

    In response, US missile manufacturer Raytheon said, "The Javelin JV stands ready to respond to all requests of the Indian government relating to the evaluation and procurement of the combat-proven missile while ensuring it adheres to a US and Indian governments' agreement."

    The Javelin missile is manufactured by a JV of Raytheon and Lockheed Martin but sold to global customers through the US government under the Foreign Military Sales route.

    The company said the missile was a superior solution on offer to the Indian Army and was "worth the wait as the two governments continue discussions."

    Javelin along with the Israeli Spike missile was planned to be evaluated by India for the requirements of its infantry units.

    The deal has been stuck for more than two years as Defence Minister A K Antony had said in August 2010 that a Letter of Request would be sent to the US for procuring these missiles along with Transfer of Technology requirements.

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    If these Americans are so protective about one anti tank missile what could have been the fate of any American jet if we could have selected for MMRCA.
     
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  3. A chauhan

    A chauhan "अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च: l" Senior Member

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    US always wishes to share critical technologies with India when their leaders come here, now they have shown their real face and intent, as usual no ToT.
     
  4. farhan_9909

    farhan_9909 Tihar Jail Banned

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    What about the nag?
     
  5. sayareakd

    sayareakd Moderator Moderator

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    just give gsqr to drdo for manportable nag, they will deliver development in one year condition. Makers said we will do it fast, last time when i had talk with them.

    If we get this system then stupid inspection system, we have to comply pls what we will get wont be TOT.
     
  6. maomao

    maomao Veteran Hunter of Maleecha Senior Member

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    Nag is not shoulder mounted !!!! However, for Nag Al-Khalid is a pussy to get ravaged and blown into pieces! :)
     
  7. chase

    chase Tihar Jail Banned

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    Nag is this:

     
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  8. SajeevJino

    SajeevJino Long walk Elite Member

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    Is they feared to give these tech us..

    They give its for Pakistani's..but they don't give to China and says we are ok and safe ( we know how chinese brain in Pakistani owned US weapons )

    Hoy America if you want to sell these missiles fullfil our requests otherwise we have another option Israeli Spikes
     
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    sayareakd Moderator Moderator

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    they are playing hard ball, they want to sell stuff to us but without TOT.
     
  10. LETHALFORCE

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    US never agreed to a TOT on javelin, and India accepted the deal and now TOT is a problem??
    India can do what pakistan does for TOT;instead of china send it to russia and TOT will be available.
     
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  11. sayareakd

    sayareakd Moderator Moderator

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    lol LF, we can make it ourself, remember HELINA is on time, alreay one test has takrn place. Nag manpod will be good, but IA never issued any GSQR
     
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    How can HELINA be ready if Nag is not ready? HELINA is based on Nag right?? Or the problems are only with NAMICA?
     
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    This might help.. we should probably drop this offer & switch to spike instead. Not only will it be cheaper but Israelis don't really have any apprehensions in sharing cutting-edge tech with us (except in some cases) if the price is right.
    Not to mention that spike is probably one of the most proliferation anti-armour missile & multiple variants (short|medium|long range), so we might also benefit in the Nag/ Helina programs from the seeker technologies.
     
  14. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    If we can build a "fire and forget" seeker for brahmos why can't one be made for NAG?
     
  15. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    Neither of them are ready. The IR seeker does not have range past 2.5km to distinguish temp variations and loses the target. The new missile will have a Focal Plane Array made by Sofradir of France that will meet specifications.
     
  16. EzioAltaïr

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    The Hindu Business Line : Helicopter version of Nag under way

    They are already working on Man Portable Nag.
     
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  17. EzioAltaïr

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    Nag is ready. They changed the GSQR in 2009. Till then all tests were successful, and then we had to make a new version, which failed.

    Helina is based off the Nag, but has many differences from it. As of yet, the Helina was tested from surface to surface (not from a helo), and it succesfully hit a target in 2011. It will be used in Rudra and LCH.
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    That article was 2005. :shocked:

    This is a couple months ago...

     
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    Look as far as I know, the problem is with the seeker which is inaccurate at long range in high temperatures. I believe both Nag & HELINA should have a common seeker.

    Also, Helina has already been tested from a helo. Search for it and you will find pics as well.
     

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