INSAS bayonets

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  1. croblade

    croblade New Member

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    I have to admit that I do not know much about INSAS bayonets, so I hope I will learn lot about them from you guys.

    Unfortunately I have just one INSAS bayonet in my collection. It is brown colored bayonet for 5.56 mm INSAS rifle. I got it without belt hanger and handle strap.
    I saw on OFB website that there are two or three more types of INSAS bayonets. Well two or three because I do not know if these two models are same:
    http://ofbindia.gov.in/products/data/weapons/wsc/11.htm
    http://ofbindia.gov.in/products/data/weapons/wsc/10.htm

    Other two models are black one for Excalibur and one with big handle for Amogh 5.56mm Carbine.
    http://ofbindia.gov.in/products/data/weapons/wsc/23.htm
    http://ofbindia.gov.in/products/data/weapons/wsc/add_31.htm

    Could someone post some good photos of these bayonets? Are bayonets for Excalibur and 5.56 mm INSAS rifle same with exception of color?

    I search hundreds of photos searching photo where I can see belt hanger for these bayonets and handle strap. I found just one photo with part of belt hanger and two or three photos with some handle stripes, but quality of photo was very low. Could someone put some photos of belt hangers handle stripes for these bayonets or at least describe them?

    I will soon take and add some photos of my INSAS bayonet.

    Many thanks,
    Croblade
     
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  3. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    bayonets for Excalibur and 5.56 mm INSAS rifle are same with exception of color..
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Are these your Pics ?
     
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    sayareakd Moderator Moderator

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    kunal does these bayonets help in opening up insas for cleaning ????
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Bayonet are for multi purpose use. It can be used for cleaning over Field operations, But its not required to open up the rifle..
     
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    croblade New Member

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    Thanks Kunal!

    These are not my photos. I believe these are photos of colleague collector from UK. Not sure 100% but I can check it if you want.
    Is this belt hanger on bayonet genuine?
    What about strips that goes on handle? Do you have any photo of them?
     
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    Rage DFI TEAM Stars and Ambassadors

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    I'll tell you what. I'm none too pleased with the INSAS bayonet. I came across a review of the bayonets some time ago, and the quality was low, the workmanship shoddy and the general finish and design fragile and unsturdy. And this was a factory direct! Here's the review, in all its emblazoned glory:

    http://www.ak47bayonets.com/gear/Gear_Review_Detail.php?g=gear1148233138
     
  9. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    I dont have any photo of them now, But that Hanger is not genuine..
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Its a Old report..
    I have seen such poor Quality only in IMA & NDA Insas bayonets..

    Here Some Pics:

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    But most of Us like to carry our Own..
     
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    Rage DFI TEAM Stars and Ambassadors

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    Sahiba, do you have any other reports to the contrary? And why do IMA/NDA cadets prefer to carry their own bayonets?
     
  13. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Over Field area..(CT ops, Etc)..

    Some people do, If every thing looks green..

    And those are not Cadets, Bhai.. :)
     
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    croblade New Member

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    Thank you a lot guys!

    Rage
    Ak47bayonets site is not updated for some time. Many things change since this review was made. And believe me, after you see Egyptian AK bayonet you relist that no other bayonet is low quality :))) INSAS bayonet on the site is same as mine, only mine do not have belt hanger. This bayonet on the site have East German belt hanger made for their M1959, M19599/2 and M1974 bayonets.

    Kunal
    So this is not genuine hanger. Many thanks! I saw only one photo of the hanger (just part of the hanger) and it was green. Soldier has it on the belt.
    On the photo of soldier and lot of rifles, soldier have bayonet with shiny blade. Which bayonet is it? Blade looks something like this on photo below, but handle strap and scabbard are different.
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    Insas ones are now Shiny types almost like AK ones..
     
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    So now they produce bayonets with polished blades?

    Is this genuine belt hanger for INSAS bayonet?

    Thanks!


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    What i fail to understand is that why is INSAS in all that colour, is it not that a gray or black Gun can provide a better camouflage??
     
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    Atul
    When Russians first start to use bakelite instead of wood on AK's, they used red/brown/orange color to imitate the color of wood. Same first model of AKM bayonets had handle made of red/brown/orange colored bakelite. Later on second type of AKM bayonets they just kept same color for bayonet handles and scabbards. Anyway, red/brown/orange color on AK and related bayonets and rifles furniture is imitation of wood.

    Here are some photos of "wooden" AK and related bayonets from Bulgaria, Czech, China, Poland and Russia.

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    Its actually depend on Unit Specifications, Most use this type of hanger and other are using Nylon type..
     
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    SO if I got it, there are three types of INSAS bayonets.

    1 Rifle 5.56 mm INSAS
    2 Excalibur
    3 Amogh 5.56 INSAS

    Old models have lack blades and new models have polished (shiny) blades.

    There are two types of belt hangers, green cotton (as on photo) and nylon one. Different units have different hangers.

    And there is also stripe on bayonets handle. Stripe has two buckles.

    Is there any bayonet for Assault Rifle 7.62 mm rifle? i did not find any info about bayonet on official web site.
    http://ofbindia.gov.in/products/data/weapons/wsc/21.htm
     
  21. Kunal Biswas

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    Amogh is a prototype, Excalibur use same as 5.56mm Insas just the color difference..

    Rifle 7.62mm use same Bayonet as AK`s, the deign are same..

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