Indian Role in Afghanistan

ajtr

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
Oct 2, 2009
Messages
12,038
Likes
723
Afghanistan to sign mining MoU with India



(Reuters) - Afghanistan will sign a memorandum of understanding (MoU) with India on mining in a month, the country's mines minister, Wahidullah Shahrani, told reporters on Friday during a visit to India.

"We are quite optimistic on this. We would prefer to see more investment by Indian companies," he said after meeting with his Indian counterpart B.K. Handique.

The MoU will cover potential investment by India's private and government companies in Afghanistan to mine mineral resources and also training by India for Afghan professionals in the sector, Shahrani said.

Afghanistan is estimated to be sitting on $3 trillion worth of untapped mineral deposits, but poor infrastructure and investor caution are inhibiting development of its mining industry, Shahrani told Reuters in an interview last month.

Shahrani said Afghanistan would like Indian firms to invest in the development of mineral deposits.

"We had very good meetings with a number of them (companies) ... companies like Ispat, Essar, ArcelorMittal, Jindal Group," he said.

"We have had some communication and we are expecting them to participate in bids for the Hajigak iron ore deposit," Shahrani said.


Afghanistan put its Hajigak deposit, located west of the capital city Kabul, back up for tender in September after taking it off the market in 2009, with promises of security for investors despite a worsening insurgency.

Afghanistan, seeking to exploit its untapped mineral wealth, has sought global investors to bid for a series of other mining projects as well.


Shahrani said Afghanistan would launch tenders for its Balkhab copper deposit and another copper deposit in northern Aynak in June or July 2011. Last month, he said the ministry hoped to launch tenders for the Balkhab deposit by the end of 2011.

Afghanistan awarded a giant copper contract in 2007 to a Chinese consortium to develop a deposit in the Aynak region south of Kabul.

With the United States planning to begin a military withdrawal from July 2011, India and China along with Afghanistan's other neighbours such as Pakistan and Iran have stepped up efforts to increase influence in the unstable region.


Afghanistan to sign mining MoU with India | Reuters
 

ajtr

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
Oct 2, 2009
Messages
12,038
Likes
723
ArcelorMittal, Tatas, Jindals keen on Afghanistan investment


NEW DELHI: Afghanistan on Friday said many Indian corporate houses including Tatas and Jindals besides Indian origin ArcelorMittal have evinced interest in developing its Hajigak mines with an estimated reserves of 2 billion tonnes of high quality iron ore.

"The companies which are seeking information for Hajigak include Ispat, Essar, Indian-origin ArcelorMittal, Jindals and Tatas," Afghanistan Mines Minister Wahidullah Shahrani told reporters after calling on Indian Mines Minister BK Handique.

In order to attract investment in the war-torn country, Afghanistan had in September sought expression of interest (EoI) from global companies to develop Hajigak mines.

"The mines is part of huge mineral reserves in the country, which have been scientifically assessed and are valued at $3 trillion", Shahrani said.

"We will encourage Indian mining companies to mine reserves there and set up steel plants. They can mine up to 20 million tonnes per annum and they would be allowed to export because we have got huge reserves of 20 billion tonnes of iron ore," Shahrani said.

The EoI for the Hajigak mines will close in January next year and would be followed by many such tenders for the development of mineral deposits, the Afghan minister said.

The EoI, he said, will close on January 13. The two countries are also working towards a Memorandum of Understanding for collaborating in the mining sector.

The MoU is likely to be inked within a month's time, he said.

Keen to attract more investment in the sector, Shahrani said Afghanistan would look at tendering its mineral assets and seek to rope in global companies.

"We are going to tender other mining reserve also to sustain our economic growth. Our mineral reserves worth $3 trillion have been scientifically ascertained", Shahrani said.

The minerals include high-grade iron ore, copper, rare earth metals like lithium, also gold and coal," he said.

The mining possibilities in the country and Hindustan Copper CMD will be part of the team as HCL is keen on Copper mining.

Giving a time-frame for some of these bids, Shahrani said these will be undertaken for development of two major copper blocks in June-July next year.

"Bids will be invited for development of oil blocks in June next year. For Gas block, it will be in January and two gold deposits in March 2011," he said

The Afghan Minister said he had a detailed meeting with Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee and Commerce Minister Anand Sharma and was hopeful of significant collaboration.

Asked about the proposed MoU with mines in Afghanistan Minister BK Handique said his Ministry was in the process of finalising the details for it for tie ups in the areas of capacity building, training etc.

Handique said a team of officials from India will visit Afghanistan in April next year to assess the mining possibilities in the country and Hindustan Copper CMD will be part of the team as HCL is keen on Copper mining.




ArcelorMittal, Tatas, Jindals keen on Afghanistan investment - The Economic Times
 

Ray

The Chairman
Professional
Joined
Apr 17, 2009
Messages
43,132
Likes
23,835
Go for it I say!

Good reasons to do so.
 

arya

Senior Member
Joined
Sep 14, 2009
Messages
3,006
Likes
1,531
Country flag
we have to make our force more strong and advance fact is now our force is just half ready or workable sorry to say but fact
 

Vinod2070

मध्यस्थ
Ambassador
Joined
Feb 22, 2009
Messages
2,557
Likes
115
Yes, we need to be there. Big time.

Also need to make sure that our people are not targeted by the terrorists sponsored by our dear neighbor. If it takes our army in Afghanistan to do that, we should go for it.

We need to be assertive to protect our interests.
 

RPK

Indyakudimahan
Senior Member
Joined
Jun 29, 2009
Messages
4,970
Likes
229
Country flag

Said Aziz Sadat, representing the Ministry of Mines of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan displays a semi-precious Lapis Lazuli stone found in the Hindu Kush region in Afghanistan.
 

Parthy

Air Warrior
Senior Member
Joined
Aug 18, 2010
Messages
1,314
Likes
149
Pak perception of Indian role in Afghan a matter of concern: US

Pakistan's negative perception of India's role in Afghanistan is a matter of "continuing concern," a Pentagon official has said, while appreciating the development assistance being offered by New Delhi to the war-torn country.

The comments came as Pentagon released a report on Afghanistan where US-led NATO forces are battling the Taliban amid efforts to rebuild the infrastructure torn down by years of war.

"We value very highly the developmental work that India's doing in Afghanistan. It's been a key, one of the major contributors, and the kind of developmental work that India has done in Afghanistan is really vital to the success of the effort there," the senior Defence Department official said.

"At the same time, Pakistani perceptions of that – and they're regularly voiced, both in formal and informal conversations by a wide range of people in Pakistan – is an area that is a continuing concern," the official said after the release of the Pentagon report.

The report said that India's presence in Afghanistan cannot be understood without considering the "tense, fragile" relationship between Pakistan and India.

The report cites President Hamid Karzai's visit to India in April this year in the beginning of the document's reporting period.

It says the visit was seen as successful from both sides, with India reaffirming its commitment to Afghanistan as a reliable partner.

It cites India's assistance in agriculture, its increased offers of degree scholarships and training programmes for the Afghans, as also the work on the Sal-ma hydroelectric dam in Herat Province.

"India continues to be one of Afghanistan's largest assistance donors, providing 1.3 billion USD funding for major infrastructure projects like power transmission, power lines, roads, etc," it said.

But, at the same time Pakistan's perceptions of India's role also need to be taken into account, the official said.

Pakistan has several times raised concerns over India's role in Afghanistan, particularly its consulates in Kandahar and Jalalabad but India has maintained that its involvement in the country is for development purposes.

"Certainly the perceptions of Pakistan are important as well as the perceptions of India.

"And so that's what we're saying, that it has to be looked at in context, without trying to be judgemental that one side or the other's perceptions are wrong, but it's important to be aware of those perceptions," the Defense Department official said in response to a question.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/p...ole-in-afghan-a-matter-of-concern-us/715319/2
 

neo29

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 1, 2009
Messages
1,284
Likes
30
Afghan president seems to favour Pakistan over India

In what will come as a shock to the Indian public, which has supported New Delhi's political backing and US $1.3 billion developmental aid programme to Afghanistan, President Hamid Karzai's steadfast support for India is being apparently overtaken by his growing alignment with Pakistan.

The signals were unmistakable at a just-concluded "track two" India-Pakistan-Afghanistan trialogue, organised this week in Kabul by an Indian think tank, the Delhi Policy Group. After strongly supporting the first three rounds of the trialogue, over the last two years, the Government of Afghanistan effectively ignored this fourth round, as did the Pakistani embassy.

President Karzai himself, while ignoring the trialogue along with his ministers and senior policymakers, had enough time to have a one-on-one conversation with Pakistani journalist and TV anchor, Naseem Zehra, who peeled off from the trialogue for this exclusive chat with the president.

"Karzai has clearly decided that his survival depends upon hedging his bets with Pakistan", says an Afghan foreign ministry official in Kabul. "He believes his support from America is running out, and New Delhi is unwilling to go beyond humanitarian aid and provide a more muscular presence."

These Afghan sources describe an insecure and frightened Karzai who is worried that, with India having decided to confine itself in Afghanistan to soft power and developmental aid, an American troop pullout would see him isolated and at the mercy of the Taliban. His post-American survival, therefore, depends upon building good relations with Pakistan and Iran.

"Every Afghan president is haunted by the spectre of Najeebullah", explains an Afghan official. Mohammad Najeebullah, who was the president of Afghanistan after the Soviet withdrawal, was captured by the Taliban when they swept into Kabul in 1996. He was tortured, brutally killed, and his mutilated body was hung up by the Taliban in this city's Aryana square.

Foreign ministry sources identify Karzai's first major pro-Pakistan gesture as the sacking, on 6th June, of Amrullah Saleh, head of the Afghanistan's National Directorate of Security. Saleh, an outspoken critic of Pakistan's backing for the Taliban, was ordered to resign after an abortive rocket attack on a peace jirga (conference) that was meeting to approve negotiations with the Taliban. Interior Minister, Hanif Atmar, was also asked to resign.

That also provided the opportunity to hand over the Afghan National Army (ANA) to a more Pakistan-friendly officer, say Indian officials in New Delhi. The stridently anti-Taliban and anti-Pakistan ANA chief, General Bismillah Khan Mohammadi, was asked to hand over command of the army and take over the interior ministry.

At that time, Karzai's spokesperson, Waheed Omer, insisted that the only reason for Saleh's removal was a security lapse at the jirga. But most Afghans perceived it as a sop to Pakistan in exchange for "facilitating" a dialogue with the Taliban.

Meanwhile India continued diplomatically, but firmly, to oppose Karzai's key internal initiative, which was dialogue with the Taliban. "There is no moderate Taliban just as there is no good terrorist," remains India's official position, voiced by numerous officials in multiple forums worldwide.

In retrospect, say Afghanistan experts in New Delhi, Karzai's evolving approach towards Pakistan was evident even before Saleh's removal. In January this year, Karzai excluded from his new cabinet his longstanding foreign minister, Rangin Dadfar Spanta, who had been unsparing in his criticism of Pakistan. Zalmai Rassoul, who has been far friendlier towards Pakistan, was appointed in Spanta's place.

Two months later, in March, the Afghan president declared during a visit to Islamabad, "India is a close friend of Afghanistan but Pakistan is a twin brother."

Meanwhile, the Indian government continues to rely on the United States and the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), which currently maintain security across Afghanistan while building up Afghan capabilities. New Delhi is keen to provide training assistance for the ANA and the police, but Washington has resisted an Indian military presence, in deference to Pakistani fears.

On 15th Dec, the US government released a major review document, which outlined Washington's plans for the withdrawal of more than 100,000 American troops in Afghanistan. Keeping many more cards in Washington's hand than were put down on the table, the review suggested that a "responsible" US withdrawal would begin as scheduled in 2011 (read, not many troops will be pulled out next year), leading towards the handing over of security responsibility to Afghan forces in 2014. The review was optimistic that this past year's "troop surge" of 30,000 additional American soldiers was weakening Al Qaeda and arresting the Taliban's momentum.

ajai shukla

http://ajaishukla.blogspot.com/2010/12/afghan-president-seems-to-favour.html
 

warriorextreme

Senior Member
Joined
Sep 29, 2010
Messages
1,867
Likes
3,040
Country flag
If India wants to firm her hold on Afghanistan then we must send some troops there....otherwise Pakistan and Iran will be the last resort for afk as they are the immediate neighbors for them
 

sesha_maruthi27

Senior Member
Joined
Aug 15, 2010
Messages
3,963
Likes
1,803
Country flag
Yeah, we should send our troops to afghanistan and help them in bringing the talibans down.................

But the pak won't like this and they will start opposing and even may try to send some suicide bombers to stop this from happening.............

But INDIA should not be afraid of this b'cos only if we have the support of afghanistan we can counter both pakistan and china when they attack or in war like situation.............

INDIA should pitch its voice up and tell that we will send troops to afghanistan let whatever consequences may be after we send..................

But the present GoI is not so bold enough to do this...............:emot154:
 

kch

Regular Member
Joined
Mar 12, 2011
Messages
41
Likes
0
Yeah, we should send our troops to afghanistan and help them in bringing the talibans down.................

But the present GoI is not so bold enough to do this...............:emot154:
You mean unlike the previous govt. that's famous for it's achievements in Afghanistan (Kandahar
and all) :) ?
 

amitkriit

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 17, 2009
Messages
2,463
Likes
1,927
Let USA do all the dirty job, let their soldiers die, let their bank-balance go bust. On our part let us make sure that USA doesn't play it's double game by striking a deal with a weakened and demoralized Taliban and by weakening the Northern Alliance. We must offer all our support to the Northern Allaince so that once the USA decides to leave we can be having a strong influence over Afghanistan. We must coordinate our actions and strategies with Russia and Iran.
 

kch

Regular Member
Joined
Mar 12, 2011
Messages
41
Likes
0
I'm trying to convey that our foreign policy does not depend on the party in charge of the centre. It's governed by collective thinktanks of MEA. What may appear as weakness of a particular govt. is infact pragmatic decision based on evaluation of our core objectives commensurate with our strengths and weaknesses.

The present govt. or past govt. don't have as much a bearing as we like to think. In fact on major external policy decisions, it's been a practice to keep leader of oppn. in loop. This is specially true of democracies where 1 single bungle can cost the politician his much dear power. And not true of dictatorships eg. Pak in 1971 or Gadhafi's Libya

Consistency of foreign policy is a common characteristic of not just us but many others like US, UK, France.
 
Last edited:

kch

Regular Member
Joined
Mar 12, 2011
Messages
41
Likes
0
amitkriit: agree with you wholeheartedly. We have ties with NA and ANA that go back a long time. We should not accept any "peace with honor" type of deal US may make with Pak to get out of Af. Eg. division of Af. along ethnic lines.

At the same time, we should not assume Pushtoons cannot be befriended. I think there is deep sense of having been betrayed by Kayani/Mush khaki army. We need to use that sense of betrayal to our advantage ...
 

kch

Regular Member
Joined
Mar 12, 2011
Messages
41
Likes
0
Does anyone know if AIR/DD have pushto service ? Any links to what is India doing to show the reality of what Pak has done to Af populace in the past 3.5 decades ? Something along the lines of urdu programme "Pakistan Diary" that used to be telecast on DD.
 

Rage

DFI TEAM
Senior Member
Joined
Feb 23, 2009
Messages
5,419
Likes
1,001
Does anyone know if AIR/DD have pushto service ? Any links to what is India doing to show the reality of what Pak has done to Af populace in the past 3.5 decades ? Something along the lines of urdu programme "Pakistan Diary" that used to be telecast on DD.

Yeh, the AIR has broadcasts in 27 foreign languages including Dari, Farsi and Pashto.

There are a few other radio stations as well, Ariana TV <http://www.arianatelevision.com/> which has Indian sensitivities, Akaash Radio, Radio Teen Taal and Radio Asian Gold <which all broadcast Hindi content, but non-political> come to mind. The last broadcasts political content sometimes, alongwith Radio Sunrise, but not to a very significant degree.

I don't think there are any programs along those lines, but you're right it's a good idea. It's something we should be looking into. To bring the reality of this sodden, wasted sh*thole to the Afghani eyes.
 

Tronic

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 30, 2009
Messages
1,915
Likes
1,282
Let USA do all the dirty job, let their soldiers die, let their bank-balance go bust. On our part let us make sure that USA doesn't play it's double game by striking a deal with a weakened and demoralized Taliban and by weakening the Northern Alliance. We must offer all our support to the Northern Allaince so that once the USA decides to leave we can be having a strong influence over Afghanistan. We must coordinate our actions and strategies with Russia and Iran.
Such an insensitive post, take aside the fact that you wish India to piggyback on US's hard work, but at least do not belittle the supreme sacrifices made by another nation's soldiers. I'm sure you would not like anyone belittling the sacrifices made by Indian soldiers.
 

amitkriit

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 17, 2009
Messages
2,463
Likes
1,927
Such an insensitive post, take aside the fact that you wish India to piggyback on US's hard work, but at least do not belittle the supreme sacrifices made by another nation's soldiers. I'm sure you would not like anyone belittling the sacrifices made by Indian soldiers.
Let us not get emotional about it, USA has got a name for adversary's soldiers: Bad Guys. And yes I have no problem with their soldiers dieing in Afghanistan, more can die and I won't blink, they made their choices and they are paying for it. Neither do have I any problem with their money being spent in the battle-torn nation. India must use every opportunity for her advantage, even if it comes at USA's expense.
 

kch

Regular Member
Joined
Mar 12, 2011
Messages
41
Likes
0
amitkriit's language may be a bit harsh. But there should be no hesitation in using US to further our aims. In fact, US will use India to needle up china and for a much pettier aim - of selling it's arms to us. At least our aim is more fundamental - survival. Of course, Indian tradition is the greatest respect for soldiers, even enemy ones, as was seen in Kargil.

India's tactics in Af-Pak is 3 fold :
1. Create schism between US-Pak
2. Create schism between Pak-Pushtoons
3. Create schism between Iran-Pak

Pak can foil only one of tactic 1. or 2. since they are mutually irreconcilable. India needs to make sure that any events that show that schism are magnified and appear to be ill-intent of Pak army towards one or the other party (US or Pushtoons).

A three tactics are aimed at strategic objective of isolating Pakistan.

There are some risk factors with the tactic. US may chicken out and find some way of satisfying it's pride as well as not defeating AQ/Taliban. Suppose US gets fed up of the war and wants to offer a Pushtoonistan to Pak-army which means ethnic division of Af into north and south. The south being added to NWFP (Khyber-Pakhtoonkhwa) province of Pak. And in return Taliban gives up it's support for AQ permanently and declares US a "Friend of Islam".

That kind of chicken-out will have the worse repercussions for India. Pak will get it's back free and turn all it's attention to creating trouble for India by directing the jihadist fury of masses of motivated former taleban at J&K.

I see faint signs of the chicken-out from US political leadership but the US army is strongly opposed to it. And I think India should do it's best to shore up any falling spirits there - it's in our own interest.

But I fully support that stationing India troops in Afghanistan is not the right tactic. Our full energies are needed in defence of motherland. But that does not preclude us training and aiding ANA.

Rage: thanks very much for the pointers to indian tv etc in Af.
 

Global Defence

New threads

Articles

Top