Indian Army Should Procure Some Infantry Carrier Vechile to Counter terrorists in Jammu and Kashmir

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  1. WolfPack86

    WolfPack86 Senior Member Senior Member

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    Indian Army should procure some Infantry Carrier Vechile to Counter Terrorist in Jammu and Kashmir here I Posting some vechiles for Urban Combat.
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    Tata Kestrel Ifv
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    :yuno: We already operating BMP in Kashmir
     
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    I mean wheeled ifv which has better protection against Mine and Ied which BMP do not have . BMP will be destroyed by Mines and Ied. Further wheeled ifv have high mobilty and speed which BMP lacks. Once BMP tracks it cannot be move further. Where as Wheeled ifv will move on even wheels gets bursts.
     
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    So what is mechanized infantry? Same as BMP or ICV?
     
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    Mechanised Infantry carried by Armored Personnel carrier not Infantry fighting vechile. Infantry fighting vechiles are deployed along with tanks columns. Like in Iraq US army used Stryker IFV to Counter terrorists.Infantry Carrier Vechile protect soldiers from gun fire and land mines. What I am suggesting Indian Army should adopt Stryker IFV brigade concept by deploying Tata Kestrel Brigade in Jammu and Kashmir to counter terrorists in Jammu and Kashmir.
     
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    Technical Specifications of TATA Motors Kestrel.
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    ICV and BMP are synonyms in the Indian context. ICV is the generic name (Infantry Fighting Vehicle), BMP is the proprietary name for the Russian ICV : Boyevaya Mashina Pekhoty

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMP-1

    Mechanized infantry is the collective term for ICV and APC (Armored Personnel Carrier).

    There used to be a thin line that differentiated ICV, APC and Tanks. That line is blurring day by day as we see multipurpose vehicles. Traditional ICVs had turret guns, while APCs didn't. Now both do. Some ICVs even have tank-like cannons (M1128).

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    The generic names don't make sense anymore and result in more confusion than clarity. That's why it's best to use their specific proprietary names.
     
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    @WolfPack86, have you ever played Battlefield 2 game? In that game, whether you choose USA or China, each has a tank as well as a separate vehicle which carry 6-7 men, has bigger co-axial machine gun in front, 2 RPK-LMG sideways, can fire upto 6 Antitank missiles, even releases smokes screen! I am refering to that. What is that? Mechanized Infantry or ICV? I am so confused. Chinese soldier talks in Chinese, so I don't understand what they talk. But when an American soldier sees such vehicle of adversary, he always says - "Hostile APC spotted".
     
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    Its would be a political reason of not deploying an APC on the roads of srinigar ,MPV truck will keep used till then
     
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    For which we are operating Casspir and OFB Mine protected vehicles.

    Dont go by photos of what western armies have done. US Army had a huge problem as they did not have vehicles suited for COIN unlike IA. What you have posted initially is all jugaad to around what they had.
     
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    The poster you have quoted is a fanboy of tactical looking things. Go through his posting history, he only wants to recommend things because they look cool. Can't blame him. Ever since the US broadcasted documentaries about Neptune Sphere, a lot of youngsters in India have become obsessed with tactical looking things. They want everything to look like the gear that US soldiers carry.

    I've told many people on the internet that our IA does a good job, is well equipped and has up to date tactics and weapons but the response is only "but why don't we have [insert American weapon here] yet?"
     
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    What they don't know is that only DEVGRU and Delta Force have that kind of gear, even the regular SEAL teams and Green Berets have to go through layers of bureaucracy to get gear approved. For example the four tube GPNVG's are only used by JSOC and other SOF's in the US are still using two tube NVG's.
     
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    Why?

    The IA uses the MPV in Kashmir:
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    When is the last time a passenger of one of these was killed (outside of the "red belt")?

    Bringing in large and heavy IFV/APCs isn't going change a thing.


    BUT, the IA and all CAPFs need to stop moving their troops in unarmoured buses/trucks in the conflict zones- how many attacks have we seen on these convoys taking soldier/policemen for R&R or out of area now? Quite a few times. This is a soft target that should never have been allowed to exist- all vehicles in use by these forces need to offer some level of bullet resistence, no more of this:




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    Anyone else see a pattern? WTF is the IA/CAPFs thinking???
     
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