If India becomes another Israel

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  1. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    If India becomes another Israel... | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online

    America has told India to dominate Asia. Actually, America wants to establish another Israel in the region. For decades, Israel has been killing the Palestinians. America has been pouring shipfuls of weapons and sackfuls of dollars into Israel to make it the supreme power of the region. Iraq was the only hurdle in Israel's way to gain regional supremacy. America destroyed Iraq.
    America believes that India deserves to be another Israel. There is one important common factor between Israel and India. Israel has been crushing the Palestinians because they have been struggling to liberate themselves from the Israeli slavery. Likewise, India has been crushing the Kashmiris, who have been struggling to liberate themselves from the Indian slavery.

    When America tells India to become a regional power, America actually means: “Look at Israel. If you become another Israel you will be weaponised and dollarised like Israel.” Israel is America’s powerful outpost in the Middle East. Obviously, America wants India to be its outpost in Asia. Actually, China is the major target. Surprisingly, China has so far been mum. But undoubtedly, she must be keeping something up her sleeve.

    China is a clot in America’s bloodstream. America believes that India can melt the clot. But it can melt the clot only if it becomes another Israel. If America did succeed in transforming India into another Israel, America would go mad with jubilation. Encouraged by the success, America might plan to establish a third Israel in some other part of the world. The process might go on and on endlessly.

    Currently, almost every American is terribly nervous. He can’t sleep peacefully. He is scared that any moment a Chinese or an Iranian or a North Korean missile might destroy his bedroom. The nervousness of the common American is understandable. By interfering in the national affairs of China, Iran and North Korea, America is creating nervousness for its own citizens.
    Pakistan has reacted sharply to America’s strategy of transforming India into a supreme regional power. Pakistan has vociferously declared that it won’t accept India’s hegemony over the region. America and India must be laughing.

    In the past, Pakistani politicians created a horrific political chaos in the country. The chaos offered a golden opportunity to India. India cut Pakistan into two parts with America’s secret blessings. Currently, another horrific political chaos is jolting the country. The politicians are again at loggerheads with each other. Another opportunity is knocking at India’s door. Maybe India is sharpening her scissors again.

    The Indian government has proudly confessed that East Pakistan was transformed into Bangladesh by India. What a stupid pride! Actually, it was not India, but Pakistan’s horrific political turmoil, which created Bangladesh. Let’s pray that the current chaos does not end up in another Bangladesh like tragedy.

    Under every democracy, the politicians have mutual differences. But there are two kinds of differences. There are differences which strengthen the country and there are differences which destabilise the country. Under the Western democracies, the differences amongst the politicians generally strengthen the country. But under the Eastern democracies, the differences generally damage the country.

    Unfortunately, Pakistan’s entire democratic history is a history of gruesome wars amongst the politicians. These wars have inflicted various sorts of tragedies on the country. There have been social tragedies. There have been economic tragedies. There have been judicial tragedies. There have been administrative tragedies etc.

    If the current war amongst the politicians continued, it must have extremely disastrous effects on the country. Things would become damn easy for America to elevate India to the status of the region’s great power.

    Unfortunately, in Pakistan most of the political fighters are fighting for their own personal interests. The country can be salvaged only if the politicians sacrifice their own interests for the interests of the nation.

    The writer retired as Professor of the Department of English, Government College University, Lahore.
     
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  3. Dovah

    Dovah Untermensch Senior Member

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    The author teaches in La-Whore university, what else can we expect?
    This school boyish article really does tell us a lot about the level of intellect Pakistan possesses.
    On one hand they argue that Israel has some sort of a choke-hold on USA on the other hand they credit US for Israel's stature, these conflicted notions only hint towards Pakistan's inevitable demise which would arise out of its ability to somehow bring some sort of large evil conspiracy against it whenever things don't go its way.

    If anything, the kind of help this "professor" accuses U.S of providing India was actually provided to Pakistan for acting like a mercenary to the United States a few decades back its another thing that they made a mess of it and ended up like the failures they are now, it is a bad case of sour grapes apparently.
     
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    Oh a professor from La-Whore is telling about making India into another Israel? :pound: BTW Israel has a nearly self-sufficient war machinery in terms of indigenous weapons technology that rivals USA in many areas including ELINT and even (Lavi) aeronautics. But Pakistanis don't want to accept Israeli superiority in technology so they keep depicting Israel as a client state of USA whereby it has nothing of its own and is at US mercy.

    I pity the Pakistani quality of education if this is what their professors can come up with. :pound: :rotfl:
     
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    JBH22 Senior Member Senior Member

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    Great thinking respect that whore views indeed if Pakistanis can't read another Hindu-Jew conspiracy they cannot have a good day.
     
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    If India becomes Israel, then rest assured there will be a wasteland in pure land but not after India too suffers some damage.

    India has to be India with it's own policy. As far as Pakistan is concerned we have a good concept in cold start which will never go nuclear. China is worried about its economy than indulge India in a shooting match over the Himalayas.

    What we need is a strong navy to rule from Hormuz to Mallacca and we don't need American assistance for that, we are well on our way to being there. We don't need aid like Israel. We have our own money and increasing rapidly. We just need to stay put and that depends on babu-netas and their policies or the lack of it.
     
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    nrj Stars and Ambassadors Stars and Ambassadors

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    USA wants India to be its puppet state all since 1947. Nothing surprising that still many elements in US Government dream so even today.

    Important part is, we never let them accomplish so. Last 60yrs speak for themselves. They can write articles or present proposals to DC, our stand wont change.
     
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    sayareakd Moderator Moderator

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    If what Pakistani is saying is true, then i must say that all those years, Pakistan tried its level best to get all it can from US, even tried desperately to achieve military dominance, even fought few wars in doing so and failed miserably. Because of these policies they are on the verge of being bankrupt despite the fact that it has fastest growing nuclear weapons and missile programme.

    Over the years they swindle economic aid from US and after US got better of ISI, PAF, PA against OBL, suddenly Pakistani are finding US to be ultimate self serving demon.

    Now with changing reality of world, US and India find themselves to be natural partners, Pakistani is as usual feeding its General Public malicious propaganda to diverts its publics attention from questions of economics growth and development.

    Just wait for some time Pakistan is going to say, we too want equal treatment as given to India, we too want to become regional Power.

    BTW Pakistani is not regional Power, it is world Power in export of terrorists. :becky:
     
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  9. thakur_ritesh

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    Sensibility and objectivity are two of the last things that one ever expects from a Pakistani, so whats new here after all? just because some professor of some univ writes something doesnt change the fact that he is no more than a pakistani, which in itself is more than any other introduction.

    It wasn’t india which was a western lap dog all this time in south asia for over 63 years and still counting.
    It isn’t india which is high on becoming a lap dog of chinese in south asia either.
    It isn’t india which now gets described as china’s Israel.
    It isn’t india which runs to the US every now and then seeking one bailout or the other.
    It isn’t indian politicians and military officials who get termed as sellouts to americans, and look to americans/chinese for guidance on formulating their internal and foreign affairs policy.

    India is growing on its own terms, economically and in its stature globally, with a fiercely independent thinking as its core, but then a slave will think like a slave, and will judge others as no better!
     
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    Let me tell you something. The Great Soviet Union went bankrupt and got itself divided into a dozen odd states because it tried to compete with the war machine supported by a liberal economy(i.e. the US). And here Pakistan is trying to do the same thing. My advice, learn from the demise of the Soviet Union and try to be a bit sensible.
     
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    If India become another Israel then pakistan will become another somalia or worse. So its good destiny of Pak that we are still India..:becky::becky::confused::confused::namaste::namaste:
     
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    Quoted for truth.
     
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    a dog thinks everyone else is a dog too.
     
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    Now the PAKISTAN PM says, "we do not need any chaudhuris" and "we will not stand for any regional hegemony". Clearly the fool is referring to Hillary Clinton's remark requesting India to begin leading. When will the Pakistanis stop bitching about us. they should be concerned about the mess in NW Waziristan.
     
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    How cool would it be if Russia, China and India form an alliance....

    It would completely change the political and military sphere
     
  16. Yusuf

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    Completely unlikely. China and India are going further apart by the day and firmly into US led anti China bloc. Much as we try to say we are not aligned with anyone, strategic sense tells us we have to have an alliance with the US, just in case.
     
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    Some thoughts:

    Most Americans cannot sleep peacefully because of the recession. They have a big list of things to worry about and India becoming another Israel is not at the top of that list, neither are Iranian, Chinese or North Korean missiles.

    Really? I thought they were your allies!

    Get a life. Differences are not what causes the problem. The problem is when one differs with the other, both try to silence the other through violence.
     
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  18. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    Russia has already been screwed once by China; which brought down the Soviet Union ,do they want a repeat??
     
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    India doesn't need to become another Israel, it needs to become another Nazi Germany.....hopefully without the mass extermination of minorities. Elected governments have failed Indians since independence, what is needed is a strong authoritarian leader who will direct all of the country's resources towards building a strong economy and massive military that establishes India's supremacy from Kabul to Yangon and throughout the Indian Ocean. India has historically been a soft state with pussy leaders who are either too ideologically disinclined towards war (ahimsa) or worried that a war may upset their apple cart of corruption.

    India needs someone from a military background, a hard-nosed realist who understands the means and utility of projecting national power beyond its borders. India needs a Nazi party, that is the only way she will ever rise to her rightful place among the comity of nations.
     
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    The world got China as Nazi Germany, we just need to be more aggressive, and respond head on to situations like.........well lets say i saw news today of Chinese incursion at demchok.

    What you say, sounds like world domination if you were not being sarcastic that is...
     
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    There is no such thing as a US-led anti-China bloc. This is just a figment of some Western jingos' imagination.

    The fact, whether we like it or not, is that Sino-US relations are far closer and of more mutual importance than Indo-US relations. China was never anti-US, and US was never anti-China, rhetoric notwithstanding.
     
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