How to Tackle China If war errupts in near future

[no smoking]

Are you guys not already doing that? Supporting the insurgents groups and separatists in India.

Comparing to what you did for Tibetans, no we are doing nothing!

 

[lion]

Dear ramakrishna and comparison,

You both are right, but it is true that in a face to face wrestle, there are possibilities that china may outnumbered us..
we are a no match for china but china's maximum air force use old fighter jet's, new one's are not reliable like j-10. j-20 is under research...
main emphasis is on navy..
china's navy is very modern and the reason is they are modernizing by taking into consideration America...
if they prepare to compete with no 1 they will defiantly easily tackle follow no's.....
comparison, your point is right. by using raw/ib, we can destabilize china by creating democracy fire there. we can support tibet, tiwan, and various other internal matters like one usa has done with ussr...

 

[ramakrishna]

Comparing to what you did for Tibetans, no we are doing nothing!

common dont lie to us .... whole world know you guyz are directly/indirectly helping the insurgents and separatists .... when it compared to Tibet ... we did minimal (if we ever did one)

 

[ramakrishna]

we can destabilize china by creating democracy fire there

@lion .. I like this Idea ... we should do it asap ...

 

[ramakrishna]

Check this comparison Table India vs China vs Pakistan

this purely explains that we are faar behind to china in numbers ... dont know the accountability of the technology ...

 

[CCTV]

Check this comparison Table India vs China vs Pakistan

this purely explains that we are faar behind to china in numbers ... dont know the accountability of the technology ...

Well, you will not want to know that.

 

[debasree]

If India tries to take advantage of Tibet/Xinjiang, what do you think would stop China from helping those insurgents groups and separatists in India?

u r allready doing it the ulfa the ne rebels what u do more

 

[Compersion]

I don't know, I am living in Australia.

Regarding Pakistan case, it is not "IF", China is taking advantage of Pakistan against India.

Don't worry about Sino-Pakistan relationship, as long as India is here and strong than Pakistan, we are good.

Like I said that at this moment there are circumstances and conditions that provides Pakistan to support PRC the way they are doing at this moment. One of these conditions is that Pakistan obeys what the PRC says to them. Would that change. Pakistan has a tendency to ask what [x] has done for them and exponentially promote what they themselves have done for the [x].

Simply what has PRC done to allow Pakistan to take advantage against India and allow PRC to gain. I find it hard to believe the Pakis can request the Chinese to do something for them. I find it believable the Chinese can ask the Pakis to do something for them. Why does PRC has that much supremacy over pakis. why does PRC have that much command over pakistan. What about tomorrow.

Pakis are not known to be good disciples, devotees and adherent to others. You can ask the Americans, Afgans, Bangladeshis. You can also ask the Europeans, Russians, and Indians.

PRC taking advantage of Pakistan against India is exceptional that Chinese are the only ones that have not experience the characteristic Pakistan conduct. With North Korea it is different since they are a PRC creation. Also North Korea is dependent on PRC. Yet there is a tint of North Korean displeasure by PRC citizens.

Perhaps someone needs to remind the PRC of that one day what the Chinese people prefer. To deal with the Pakis compared to dealing with Indians.
I am sure the PRC interlocutors that deal with Pakis recognise this. You are determined by the company you keep.

I know the Chinese people are pragmatic and in the end they will prefer to share a drink with Indians rather the Pakis.

In Australia do you have any paki acquaintances and any indian acquaintances. When the PRC interlocutors deal with pakis and indians what is the context of their dialogue. i am sure there is a different breadth in each. PRC prefer to deal with sensibility, rules and traditions and with reinforcement of the international laws and sovereignty of their position in the comity of nations.

It is true that there are substantial political and social instability in China, but India is also facing the same problem, even worse! With only around 60% of Hindus within India population, do you think india would be in a better position to handle separatists?

Yes. If those separatists are from Pakistan. When Pakistan appreciates like you have said at the forefront that PRC is taking advantage of Pakistan against India what will they do. Its a perpetual Pakistan demand that they will need to be pleased. When they are not (once) they will do whats in their nature and that is to show PRC their displeasure. Think about that.

With reference to this thread - How to Tackle China If war errupts in near future :

I know Chinese people are pragmatic and in the end they will prefer to share a drink with Indians rather the Pakis (with the above in mind). Perhaps someone needs to remind the PRC of that one day.

You still don't get it, as the 2 countries which intends to become superpower, neither of them has interest in sharing a drink with another one.

In a big room there is plenty of space. There are also many people who are drinking. Some with big glasses. Some with small glass but thinking to upgrade to a bigger glass for the next refill. Also if one wants to drink too much and too fast others will not always follow. Each has its own drinking habits. Some last longer compared to others. Some know when to refill and stop. The best drinkers are the the ones that have consistency.

Cheers.

 

[lion]

Well CCTV,

We want to know that but what u don't know is china's fighter jet's aging fleet,
therefore china has signed an agreement with russia for 100 su-35's(if m not mistaken)...
china is afraid of india's 126 fighter jet deal..

And don't be in any illusion that u can defeat india this time. this is not 1962. this 2013. if ur country try to do anything wrong, then that is gng to be very very wrong for her...
And one thing more, MIND IT!

 

[CCTV]

Well CCTV,

We want to know that but what u don't know is china's fighter jet's aging fleet,
therefore china has signed an agreement with russia for 100 su-35's(if m not mistaken)...
china is afraid of india's 126 fighter jet deal..

And don't be in any illusion that u can defeat india this time. this is not 1962. this 2013. if ur country try to do anything wrong, then that is gng to be very very wrong for her...
And one thing more, MIND IT!

1. You may just compare the 3 gen. Fighter jets's numbers and ages.
2.china did not sign a agreement to buy any su35 yet, but a agreement of May be buy 24 of su35.
3.how did you know China is afraid of India 's fighter jet deal? And the deal is highly uncertain ....
4. India and China 's gap at today is much wider than in 1962. ( India is still unable to produce canons, shells , bullets, riffles, tanks, fighter jets, submarines,nuclear warhead for missiles....... ,but China can produce everything.)
5. Base on the above, how can India do if China try to do something " wrong".

 

[Spindrift]

Comparing to what you did for Tibetans, no we are doing nothing!

As far as i remember we did not give Tenzin an AK 47 and told him to go and have fun on the Tibetan plateau

 

[t_co]

As far as i remember we did not give Tenzin an AK 47 and told him to go and have fun on the Tibetan plateau

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_Resistance_Since_1950#1959_Tibetan_uprising

 

[drkrn]

1. You may just compare the 3 gen. Fighter jets's numbers and ages.
2.china did not sign a agreement to buy any su35 yet, but a agreement of May be buy 24 of su35.
3.how did you know China is afraid of India 's fighter jet deal? And the deal is highly uncertain ....
4. India and China 's gap at today is much wider than in 1962. ( India is still unable to produce canons, shells , bullets, riffles, tanks, fighter jets, submarines,nuclear warhead for missiles....... ,but China can produce everything.)
5. Base on the above, how can India do if China try to do something " wrong".

1.quality do matter.that too in current environment
2.western news reports are contradictory to your view
3.china is apprehensive of costly western equipment and capabilities on which it cant lay its hands ,not afraid
4.true a gap that need to be bridged quickly.and govt's are taking necessary steps.
5.china's offensive capabilities vis a vis india are limited

 

[drkrn]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_Resistance_Since_1950#1959_Tibetan_uprising

it it cia/usa

 

[drkrn]

Dear ramakrishna and comparison,

You both are right, but it is true that in a face to face wrestle, there are possibilities that china may outnumbered us..
we are a no match for china but china's maximum air force use old fighter jet's, new one's are not reliable like j-10. j-20 is under research...
main emphasis is on navy..
china's navy is very modern and the reason is they are modernizing by taking into consideration America...
if they prepare to compete with no 1 they will defiantly easily tackle follow no's.....
comparison, your point is right. by using raw/ib, we can destabilize china by creating democracy fire there. we can support tibet, tiwan, and various other internal matters like one usa has done with ussr...

chinese navy is new ships on old soviet tech..not much of threat.

 

[t_co]

1.quality do matter.that too in current environment
2.western news reports are contradictory to your view
3.china is apprehensive of costly western equipment and capabilities on which it cant lay its hands ,not afraid
4.true a gap that need to be bridged quickly.and govt's are taking necessary steps.
5.china's offensive capabilities vis a vis india are limited

@CCTV

1. Number of aircraft comparisons are highly misleading. You need to consider pilot quantity/training, readiness levels, airbase sortie rates, AEW&C, and ordnance quality before you think about quality or number of aircraft.
2. China will likely buy the Su35 if its own engine program does not pan out
3. drkrn is right here; China is apprehensive, but it also understands these capabilities very well
4. DRDO + India's domestic industry is a complete mess and very small-scale, and it is unlikely that either a UPA or BJP government could fix it
5. Yep, both sides lack offense vs the other.

 

[CCTV]

1.quality do matter.that too in current environment
2.western news reports are contradictory to your view
3.china is apprehensive of costly western equipment and capabilities on which it cant lay its hands ,not afraid
4.true a gap that need to be bridged quickly.and govt's are taking necessary steps.
5.china's offensive capabilities vis a vis india are limited

1. Did I said not? What is you point here?
2.western news ..... Good luck
3. How? You had all western equipment at 1962.
4.quickly? 10 ,20 or 50 years? This year is the 51th year from 1962 already. How many more years you need?
5. Well, if a country need to import bullets , it's defensive capabilities are really limited.

 

[CCTV]

chinese navy is new ships on old soviet tech..not much of threat.

Well, to proof you are not trolling . Can you provide a example here?

 

[drkrn]

Well, to proof you are not trolling . Can you provide a example here?

kilo class,ming which forms bulk are soviet tech.
type 39 class-song class is derivative of soviet era subs with modifications in china.
these are examples

bulk of chinese navy is based on soviet era tech by soviet scientists

 

[drkrn]

1. Did I said not? What is you point here?
2.western news ..... Good luck
3. How? You had all western equipment at 1962.
4.quickly? 10 ,20 or 50 years? This year is the 51th year from 1962 already. How many more years you need?
5. Well, if a country need to import bullets , it's defensive capabilities are really limited.

1.india have edge here.
2.they are reliable
3.india only have soviet era tech in 1962.only west equipment following independence is from usa that too radars with limited capabilities to monitor chinese aircraft after 1962.
4.our economic progress started in 1991.we have achieved far more than any other nation in this regards including china.
5.india imports bullets.....haha