'Gujarat Contemplating Defence Manufacturing Policy'

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  1. Shaitan

    Shaitan Zandu balm all day Senior Member

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    With a view to encouraging domestic manufacturing of defence equipment, Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi today said his government is contemplating a manufacturing policy in this regard.

    "The country is spending huge amount on import of defence equipment. The Gujarat government is planning to come out with a policy for manufacturing defence equipment in the state, Modi said here at an award function.

    The industry department in a discussion paper in 2010 had proposed to raise FDI in defence production to 74 per cent from the current 26 per cent, saying it would help ensure technology transfer and funds to effectively replace imports.

    India is one of the largest users and importers of conventional defence equipment and ranks among the top ten countries in the world in terms of military expenditure.

    India opened up the defence equipment industry to private sector in May 2001. The country imports over USD 8 billion worth of defence equipment and its defence budget is growing at 13.4 per cent annually since 2006-07.

    According to estimates, nearly 70 per cent of India's defence requirements are met through imports.

    Apart from defence PSUs like Hindustan Aeronautics, Bharat Electronics and BEML private players such as Mahindras, Tatas and Pipavav Defence and Offshore Engineering Company are domestic defence equipment suppliers.

    The central government's stated aim is to reverse this trend and manufacture 70 per cent or more of its defence needs indigenously.

    India spent over Rs 4,42,000 crore in the last ten years on procuring defence equipment for the armed forces from both foreign and Indian players.

    'Gujarat Contemplating Defence Manufacturing Policy'
     
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    This is a non starter as long as the Centre does not agree to it. Defense related stuff is in the Central or Federal List.
     
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    And the import lobbies will ensure that it remains a non-starter.
     
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    They will try their best, no doubt. However, there is good news: http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...ry-blacklists-7-firms-corruption-charges.html

    I must say, however, that Modi has vision. He knows what kinds of industries will be money spinners and can also support highly educated and scholarly workforce. Defense industries will not only generate money, they will also demand, and spur the growth of research and engineering oriented scholars in the state and attract similar talent from other parts of India as well.
     
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    Vishwarupa Senior Member Senior Member

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    Modi is a visionary, hope he will be in Central ministry soon.
     
  7. lemontree

    lemontree Defence Professionals Defence Professionals

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    But Gujarat has a major strategic disadvantage.

    Gujarat is within range of enemy cruise missiles, and airforce. There is no depth.

    All our defence industries are located in states that deep within India.

    Madhya Pradesh, Andhra and eastern Maharashtra are and ideal regions for locating defence industries.
     
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    The timing of the announcement is what amazes me. The day after some bright US senator pulled something out of his ass to support the religious blah blah resolution against gujarat, modi announces this. Though this is not an immediate happening without the center's push, modi does strike a tit for tat to US where it hurts the most for them. I wonder if it is really a coincidence :shocked::rolleyes:
     
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    Sound like Gujarat will be heavily defended state..
     
  10. Rahul92

    Rahul92 Senior Member Senior Member

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    Once Gujarat starts it other states will follow
     
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    warriorextreme Senior Member Senior Member

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    entire pakistan comes under our missile range :)
    pakistan is stupid enough to launch such attacks but such adventures by pakistan will be responded in kind :)
     
  12. pankaj nema

    pankaj nema Senior Member Senior Member

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    Gujarat has refineries ;Nuclear power plants; LNG and oil import terminals which are all strategic assets

    Similarly L& T has its Hazira works which played a big role in INS Arihant 's development

    Pipavav shipyard has already started making warships

    SO we need solid detterence through our ABM systems and Agni/ Brahmos / shaurya Missiles and
    there is no need for irrational fears
     
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  13. lemontree

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    Destruction of none of these will have any effect on the immediate war effort.

    Destruction of none of these will have any effect on the immediate war effort.

    Ships take years to build, and the destruction will not have any effect on the immediate war effort.

    The distance is too close and the reaction time needed is in split seconds. There is too much at stake.

    The last time - Menon and Nehru said this...the nation was humiliated.
     
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    lemontree Defence Professionals Defence Professionals

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    Pakistan???....What stops PLAN subs launching a cruise missile attack!

    What stops PLAAF from using PAF bases!

    BTW, a little about Chinese war doctrine - they do not attack piecemeal. There missiles will come in salvos to overwhelm your defences.
     
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    pankaj nema Senior Member Senior Member

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    @ Lemon tree

    You being a military professional are still lacking in knowledge about the art and science of war

    You have stated about the " immediate war efforts "

    Now when our armed forces were fully mobilised in 2001 -02 did nt we know about the possibility of
    a pre emptive strike by Pakistan on our armed forces and Forward airbases which were SO CLOSELY
    deliberately and provocatively positioned near the Pakistan border

    The QUESTION remains Does Pakistan has the GUTS to Fire a single missile at India
    Because then Pakistan cannot blame India for UNLEASHING its Strike Corps at it
     
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    @ Lemontree

    The policy Gujarat Government is bringing forrward is about and for rapid increase in indigenious manufacture
    of defence equipment

    Now that the offset policy has been rolled out it will lead to a big increase in New green field investments

    The Gujarat state with its Will and ability to GET things done is an a very attractive place for all types of
    industries INCLUDING defence industries

    Defence industries will IN FACT look for a state which will quickly give them LAND POWER and other infrastructure
    along with TAX concessions and trained high quality manpower so that the industry is up and running

    The MOD of GOI also wants to see new high tech products come out quickly
     
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    @ Lemontree

    The old paradigm of being " close to the enemy's striking range " ;if it was still so valid would then also apply to
    forward airbases and army cantonments

    Then our ENTIRE Cold Start is a NON starter as ACCORDING TO YOU we will always be afraid of
    the enemy attack

    In fact Cold start is all about being deliberately placed
    and positioned near Pakistan border and kicking them without a warning

    According to Pakistani experts who write in their media India is Operationalisng Cold start
    by creating an UNBROKEN Chain of Forward Army bases and Air bases ALL along the Pak border
    so that we can launch sudden and multi pronged attacks
     
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    pankaj nema Senior Member Senior Member

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    @ lemon tree You are still stuck up in 1962

    PLEASE wake up SIR ; this is 2012 A good 50 years have passed
     
  19. Mad Indian

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    But we still have the CONs(who will sell the country for the highest bidder) and CCP there(who will stop at nothing to grab our lands if an oppurtunity presents) same like in 1962. So Sir, wake up, trusting Chicoms is worse than trusting Pukis.
     
  20. lemontree

    lemontree Defence Professionals Defence Professionals

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    I am aware of that shortcoming and I read up to update myself.

    Your baby talk on the internet from the comfort of your home does not make you a strategic genius.

    What do you know about the daily situation on the IB and LOC in 2001-2002?

    Day-in and day out there was shelling and firing, by both sides. Raids and counter raids were being conducted.
    My battalion lost 6 men KIA and many more wounded in the daily series of actions.

    It is a different matter that the GOI of the day had kept the whole armd forces on hair trigger readyness for a whole year, without an iota of what it wanted to do.

    Pakistan did much more than launch "a missile", they attacked our Parliament and all we could do was poodle fake.
     
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    What is your understanding of cold start?
     

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